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Hi revi, just a very minor error on your user page if you don't mind me mentioning it: you spelt privilliges wrong, the correct English word is privileges. Best wishes! Rodney Baggins (talk) 11:51, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed, thanks! —regards, Revi 12:02, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. With 53 contestants qualifying, the groups for round 2 are slightly smaller than usual, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining users.
Our top scorers in round 1 were:
Aoba47 led the field with a featured article, 8 good articles and 42 GARs, giving a total of 666 points.
FrB.TG , a WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points, gained from a featured article and masses of bonus points.
Ssven2, another WikiCup newcomer, was in third place with 403 points, garnered from a featured article, a featured list, a good article and twelve GARs.
Ceranthor, Numerounovedant, Carbrera, Farang Rak Tham and Cartoon network freak all had over 200 points, but like all the other contestants, now have to start again from scratch. A good achievement was the 193 GARs performed by WikiCup contestants, comparing very favourably with the 54 GAs they achieved.
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Thank you! Sent by: xaosflux 20:28, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Xaosflux, you’re free to remove it now. —regards, Revi 02:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I found your user page via Wikipedia:Translators available as an available translator for Korean-English sources. I was wondering if you could help determine the accuracy of a passage that is currently in dispute, which is based on a Korean-language source. Thanks! BlackRanger88 (talk) 08:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Stating the wiki page or url in question will make my life and your life easier. —regards, Revi 08:15, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
On the Rising Sun Flag page, there's a passage indicating that "An analysis indicates that Korean reactions to the rising sun flag stem from the complicating emotion of excessive nationalism and nationalistic complex toward Japan".[1] At face value, this interpretation/translation appears to be glaringly biased, but I can't confirm this without a translation. BlackRanger88 (talk) 08:30, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Translating |quote= “Rising Sun Flag controversy, which occurs once in a while, starts from excessive nationalism and nationalistic complex. … As always, rising sun flag issue is some sort of ‘complex’ against Japan”. Basically similar to the passage there, because the original text is written such way. Hankyung’s stance on stuff is just like that, but this is my imo part. —regards, Revi 08:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. BlackRanger88 (talk) 08:50, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello again. I was wondering if you could help me again with aforementioned source, but with the source as a whole this time. Specifically, I'm receiving claims that the source/article is a "psychological analysis" of "Korean [people's] reactions to the rising sun flag". Consequently, I was hoping that you could help me clear up three things:
1) That the source in question is a "psychological analysis" of Korean mentalities towards the flag, i.e. a detailed examination of the elements or structure of Korean mentalities. At face value, it seems to be a just an article that cites the opinion of one professor, rather than a full analysis.
2) Whether the article is focused on reactions to the The Rising Sun Flag itself, or reactions to things that resemble the Rising Sun Flag (such as the Hamburger wrapping mentioned in the title).
3) That the conclusion supported by the source/article is that "Korean reactions to the rising sun flag stem from the complicating emotion of excessive nationalism and nationalistic complex toward Japan" without any other contexts or important details.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, but I understand if my request seems too burdensome. I'm just trying to clear up what seems to me to be non-NPOV material. Thanks in advance. BlackRanger88 (talk) 21:09, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I'm busy with my work and will be able to provide a response before the end of this week. —regards, Revi 11:37, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Replied on the discussion. —regards, Revi 13:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
"햄버거 포장도 '욱일기 딱지'…도 넘는 반일정서"[Hamburger wrap "Rising sun flag" ... excessive anti-Japan sentiment]. Korea Economic Daily. June 6, 2017. 툭하면 터지는 욱일기 논란은 과도한 민족주의와 민족주의적 콤플렉스라는 복잡한 정서가 출발점이다 ... 늘 그렇듯 욱일기 논란도 일본에 대해 갖고 있는 일종의 콤플렉스 기제의 작동
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Acknowledged! —regards, Revi 06:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
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Chris troutman thanks! I think this is the first time BDC takes a visit —regards, Revi 01:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to hear that; you know how it is with volunteer efforts. I'm glad I could be the Wikipedian to visit today, as each of our contributors is part of our community. Hope you enjoy the day. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:22, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, that happens. (I forgot to reply huh) thanks for doing these stuff! That made me enjoy the day. —regards, Revi 16:11, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
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Hello. You renamed this user two weeks ago. It appears they have not abandoned the account and are using it to email me.--v/r - TP 22:49, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Yup, see that user’s talk page. I currently don’t have desktop access - I’ll do it as soon as I have it. —regards, Revi 04:43, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
And your opinion welcome at User talk:Renamed user 48691419814698196#Rename request. —regards, Revi 09:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, i have an old account which i forgot the password for it and didn t put an email to do a reset so i created another account and requesting to recover my old name account to my new account as i desire my old user name to be recovered
old account which i desire is (Essaf Amary) and my current account named (Zerobob11xx) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zerobob11xx (talk • contribs) 05:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
General guideline is to only provide usurpation to active contributors — please make more contributions to Wikipedia and then I’ll do it. —regards, Revi 05:28, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
what contributions you need, as i already did an urusaption and they also need contrubutions and then wikipedia told me i contact you to consdier more —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zerobob11xx (talk • contribs) 05:42, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Yun Shui who told me to contact you to help me recovering my old account please help me i dont understand why its too complicated like that, and this old account is been more than 10 month old and when i did the usurpation and did notify on essaf amary talk page no one replied so what shall i do now, i can also expalin my story more to u if u willing to give help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zerobob11xx (talk • contribs) 05:58, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, real life stuff was taking precedence. Renaming user consumes valuable server resources, and usurping a user means x2 resource used since it means we are renaming two times. We want our resources to be used for our active contributors -- so it is not wasted, so we require 400 contributions before you are eligible to prove we are not wasting our server resources. Thank you for your understanding. —regards, Revi 14:10, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, will tell you when I remove it from CHUS to remove it @ MW page. —regards, Revi 15:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
SQL, system is fixed \o/! —regards, Revi 19:02, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
The second round of the 2018 WikiCup has now finished. Most contestants who advanced to the next round scored upwards of 100 points, but two with just 10 points managed to scrape through into round 3. Our top scorers in the last round were:
Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with three featured articles
Iazyges, with nine good articles and lots of bonus points
Yashthepunisher, a first time contestant, with two featured lists
SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with seventeen good topic articles
Usernameunique, a first time contestant, with fourteen DYKs
Muboshgu, a seasoned competitor, with three ITNs and
Courcelles, another first time contestant, with twenty-seven GARs
So far contestants have achieved twelve featured articles between them and a splendid 124 good articles. Commendably, 326 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2018 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met; most of the GARs are fine, but a few have been a bit skimpy.
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Uh. I will keep an eye on it but I generally avoid ANI so please understand me if I seem to be missing. —regards, Revi 09:34, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
For my note: 19:12:03 <+COIBot> 1906 records; Top 10 wikis where doopedia.co.kr has been added: w:ko (664), w:en (362), w:hu (78), w:pt (20), w:tr (18), w:ms (15), w:sk (15), w:vi (13), w:th (11), w:ja (9)., m:User:COIBot/LinkReports/doopedia.co.kr—regards, Revi 10:14, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Well, seems they're now unblocked. Anyway, as I see in ANI, ANI is always such a weird place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯—regards, Revi 11:34, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
So many people who shouldn't be admins yet are. The entire 'blockahammer fixes all mentality. Ugh. Well, yeah, thinks worked out. The main problem, really, is not the sources, but English fluency, through it's a shame people don't bother to explain things on talk of new editors. Hard for them to learn from their mistakes if nobody explains what those are. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:28, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
At least I realized I may be such harsh @ kowiki. I need to improve as well:-p —regards, Revi 21:08, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, would you mind taking a look at this talk page? I think the bot translations might be jumbled up and are probably incoherent. I won't elaborate more here, as the whole issue is pretty messy, but do take a look at that page. Thanks! (You are not involved in any way, I just needed someone fluent in Korean to help out that blocked editor.) Rob3512chat?what I did 10:26, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Yup, machine translation sucks when it comes to $any_other_language<=>Korean. I'll leave a comment in a moment. —regards, Revi 10:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
I am reviewing my student edits. Some may need help; I am leaving them messages / emails but I cannot review their Korean Wikipedia edits. I'll list the ones that could use some advice here, maybe you can look at their edits on ko wiki and leave them some advise:
- on en wiki most of their edits are copy paste of press releases:(
mostly adding unreferenced content on en wiki and getting reverted a lot
For Kim, I see such contributions too. Undid most of their contributions. The rest is stuff I'm not sure whether they are good or not. (I'm more of a behind-the-scenes guy.)
For Dhk, he's mostly good except occasionally using unreliable Naver search results as source. (Tag: 점검이 필요한 외부 링크) means he used "External links that needs to be checked". It triggers on known unreliable or potentially abusive external links. —regards, Revi 10:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
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The third round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:
Courcelles, a first time contestant, with 1756 points, a tally built largely on 27 GAs related to the Olympics
Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three GAs on natural history and astronomy topics
SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with a variety of submissions related to transport in the state of Washington
Contestants managed 7 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 120 good articles, 1 good topic, 124 DYK entries, 15 ITN entries, and 132 good article reviews. Over the course of the competition, contestants have completed 458 GA reviews, in comparison to 244 good articles submitted for review and promoted. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process; several submissions, particularly in abstruse or technical areas, have needed additional work to make them completely verifiable.
If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Cwmhiraeth (talk), Vanamonde (talk) 04:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
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