Map showing the proximity of Tannadice Park home Dundee United (right) to Dundee FC's stadium Dens Park (left)
Dundee is the older of the two, having been founded in 1893, compared to Dundee United which was founded in 1909 as Dundee Hibernian following the demise of Dundee Harp, a club founded by Irish immigrants in 1879. While United's origins stem from Irish immigration, the rivalry is not sectarian in the manner of the Old Firm.
Dundee had long been the more successful club, playing more seasons in the top flight than their rivals and winning one League title, one Scottish Cup and three League Cups before United lifted a major trophy. However, from the 1970s under Jim McLean the tide turned in the city's footballing rivalry. United would go on to be a major force in Scottish football in the 1980s, winning their first three major honours at Dens Park including a League Cup win against Dundee in 1980; the 1983 league title was also won there. Their rivalry with Aberdeen, who also lifted several trophies during the period, was entitled the New Firm. In 1994 United won their first Scottish Cup, and their second in 2010, in doing so drawing level with Dundee on five major trophies won.
The two clubs even had a combined hooligan 'firm', known as the Dundee Utility, which was formed to stand up to the larger firms of the Glasgow and Edinburgh clubs.[1]
Domestic head-to-head
In domestic head-to-head matches, United are quite far in front; the teams have played each other 172 times, Dundee United winning 81 compared to Dundee's 49. A total of 42 matches have ended in a stalemate.[2] Dundee United have won more league, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches.
Dundee have competed in more seasons of top flight football with 99 in total to United's 62, but United have maintained a slightly better points-per-game average in the top tier. Both clubs have won the Scottish league championship once, Dundee in 1962 and United in 1983. The clubs also sometimes meet in league games outside the top tier, as in 1995–96 and 2019–20.[3]
Since the introduction of the split in the 2000–01 Scottish Premier League where only 3 matchups are guaranteed prior to the split, Dundee United have been handed two guaranteed home derbies 8 times out of the 10 seasons which both teams have played together in the top league, with Dundee only getting two guaranteed home derbies in 2000–01 and 2014–15.[4]
All-time top flight table (1890/91-present – 128th Season)
In the Scottish Cup, Dundee have competed in 108 tournaments, reaching 5 cup finals. They were cup winners in 1910 as well as runners-up in 1925, 1952, 1964 and 2003. Dundee United have competed in 88 tournaments, reaching 10 cup finals. They were cup winners in 1994 and 2010 as well as runners up in 1974, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1991 (being unable to secure that trophy in six finals under otherwise successful boss Jim McLean), 2005 and 2014.
In European competition, Dundee United have played in more tournaments and in more games, competing in 27 tournaments to Dundee's 7, and playing in 80 more matches.[5] Neither side has won a trophy, although United were runners-up in the 1986–87 UEFA Cup; both sides have reached the semi-finals of the European Cup once (Dundee in 1962–63, United in 1983–84), while Dundee also reached the semi-finals of the 1967–68 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup. Conversely, United hold the joint-record for worst result by a Scottish side, suffering a 7–0 defeat to Dutch side AZ Alkmaar on 11 August 2022.[6]
The following are records just for the Dundee derby itself:
The longest unbeaten run in all matches is 13, held by United, this was between December 1979 and September 1983, 11 of these were Wins.
The longest unbeaten run in home matches is held by Dundee when United failed to beat them for 14 games between November 1925 and August 1962.
The longest unbeaten run in away matches is held by United with a 12 match run at Dens Park between April 1963 and April 1971 which included 8 victories.
The longest unbroken winning run in all matches belongs to United with 7 between March 1988 and April 1989.
The longest unbroken winning run at home belongs to United with 6 between September 1974 and September 1981.
The longest unbroken winning run away from home belongs to United who scored 8 consecutive victories at Dens Park between December 1980 and November 1984.
The record home victory in a league match is 5–0 recorded by Dundee at Dens Park in August 1926
The record away victory in a league match is 5–0 recorded by United at Dens Park in September 1965.
The highest scoring match was in September 1971 when Dundee won 6–4 at Dens Park.
Paul Sturrock of United holds the mark for the most derby goals with 14, 2 of these came in United's 3–0 League Cup Final win over Dundee at Dens Park in December 1980.
Record Attendance:
29,106 at Dens Park, 14 May 1983 (Premier Division)
21,325 at Tannadice, 3 January 1966 (old Division One)
Lowest Attendance:
9,185 at Tannadice, 12 December 1999 (SPL)
7,645 at Dens Park, 29 January 1994 (Premier Division)
16 players have signed for Dundee United directly from Dundee, with 10 making the opposite journey from Tannadice to Dens Park. Only players who have played at least one first team game for both clubs are currently included.
In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.
Fixtures from 1925 to the present day featuring League games, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches. Friendlies, testimonials and other non-competitive games are not included.[18][19]
Dundee wins are coloured in blue, United wins in tangerine and draws are grey. Note that United played in white until 1969 but tangerine is used throughout for ease.
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Paul Sturrock
Tommy Coyne
Mixu Paatelainen
Steve Lovell
