Talk:Chiropractic/Archive 2
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It seems that User:RK is merely attacking the completely rational and medically accepted chiropractic care field over a personal viewpoint. Hmm. I thought that was frowned upon- due to Wikipedia's neutrality and non-biased nature? User:capitolZ
- Please stop your personal criticisms. This page reports the views of mainstream doctors and scientists, not just advocates of chiropractice. Stop acting as if all their studies and statements were written by me. If you think that there is an error, and that this article does not accurately represent the views of the mainstream medical and scientific community, then state precisely what you think the error is, and give us citations to back up your position. By the way, your claim that chiropractic is "medically accepted" is wrong. We must take care not to distort the positions of other people, in order to make our own position look more popular. RK
- RK's bias is not actually personal but Scientism. He tends to demand hard evidence which in the case of chiropractic is hard to come by. Testimonials of patients who feel healthy and prefer to consult a chiropractor when they have a problem is considered anecdotal and not evidence as such. Fred Bauder 20:01, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
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My God, the Chiropractic medicine page is a cesspool of misinformation and personally biased opinions! Does anyone have any medically relevant information on chiropractic care to put on that page, so that that it can become more than an attack on the chiropractic field of medicine? User:capitolZ
- I would just like to note that the Chiropractors I know do not consider chiropractic to be a field of medicine. We generally consider Chiropractic as something different, especially since we generally disagree with the use of medicine. We are, however, Primary Healthcare Providers. Elaine M. Brady
- While I agree RK goes way overboard, some mild criticism is appropriate. Fred Bauder 15:49, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
- The problem is that this page does contain "medically relevant information on chiropractic care"; Use capitalZ is just angry that the results of such medical studies are at odds with his beliefs. RK 19:10, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
What is lacking in the article is material which has a postive point of view regarding chiropractic medicine. This lack, in the face of the cautionary points of view RK has liberally inserted in the article, skews the entire article towards a negative point of view. But, in the main, the solution is to add positive material not to remove negative material, although can also be improved. Fred Bauder 19:56, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
- We can't just manufacture positive points of view in an attempt to give balance. If positive evalutations are shown to exist, then of course we should add them. The trouble is, we can't really find any; all we can find are personal testimonials. Yet we can also find personal testimonials that Jesus cured their cancer, and that flax-seed oil cured Cronhn's disease. We can report the existence of these many testimonials, but we also need to note if there is any evidence to back them up. Remember, anyone can claim anything. RK 15:22, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
My thought was to use chiropractic's representations of itself and also to summarize the opinion's of those who use chiropractic. See below what I consider acceptable. Fred Bauder 16:28, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)