Talk:Jim Morrison/Archive 2
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The opening paragraph used to explain a lot about Morrison being know for his time with the Doors, but also talked about his behavior on stage and his career as a poet. Now, somebody changed it to a short, boring sentence. How is that supposed to grab the reader's attention? I want this fixed. It also said that he was ranked somewhere as one of the greatest singers of all time, but I can't remember. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.49.216.17 (talk) 04:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
71.141.245.255 (talk) 02:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC) Don't worry. It was changed back.
SOMEBODY SHOULD NOTE DOWN THAT EVEN MANY PEOPLE SAW JIM AS A VOCALIST AND POET, HE PLAYED PIANO ON ORANGE COUNTY SUITE (THE LOST PARIS TAPES), PERCUSSION AT THE ISLE OF WRIGHT FESTIVAL (MARACAS) AND ON AMERICAN PRAYER (TAMBOURINE), AND HE ALSO PLAYED HARMONICA ON A BOOTLEGGED JIMI HENDRIX LIVE ALBUM (SUNSHINE OF YOUR LOVE). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.217.37.161 (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Please, use your full range of keyboard characters. No need to SHOUT! UnVerified, Speculative, possibly Delusional...? get Real. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Christopher Wells (talk • contribs) 03:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Actually John, most of what this guy says is true, but it would need sources. I have a recording with Morrison playing very rudimentary piano and singing the lyrics to "Orange County Suite." It is also well known that Morrison played harmonica, but wasn't that good. The Sugarman book describes how Morrison "honked along" before he had confidence to sing in the band. Manzarek handled the vocals in those days. Morrison also was going to play harmonica on Roadhouse Blues before it was wisely decided to let an accomplished player (John Sebastian) handle the part. If any mention is made of Morrison's instrumental ability, his limitations in this dimension should also be noted. On the group's records, Morrison stuck to what he did best and quite well - sing. 98.216.14.212 (talk) 20:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I have reinserted this FU photograph per WP:BOLD and WP:NFCC. Please see this for additional evidence. Thank you! Doc9871 (talk) 07:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Per WP:UNDUE, we can't have one short paragraph on the "official" narrative followed by detailed accounts of several conspiracy theories. --John (talk) 07:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Why can't there be one short paragraph on the very limited information provided "officially," if is this is all there is? The is clearly an area that many are curious about. The data provided seems informative and its source noted, so I, as a reader, would rather see it than have it excised or truncated. I don't see how this merits flagging the section as disputed. If the assertion of bias is based only on the relative space allotted to the theories vs. the official version, I would prefer to see the flag removed.MacRutchik (talk) 05:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
The section on Morrison’s family ends with a claim that Morrison’s father made negative comments to Morrison regarding his music career after hearing the Doors’ first album. Interestingly, the source this is attributed to does not say this at all. Source 30 says that Morrison’s father was contacted by a concerned old friend of his who Jim had petitioned to assist with the funding of the group’s debut album. This would place the comments well before the release of the debut. Source 30 asserts that Morrison’s father made the comments in 1965, but later took pride in Jim’s success despite having very little contact with him. I’m not sure how this final section should be changed, but the way it reads, it isn’t entirely accurate, although the quotation is transcribed correctly. Maybe a couple of lines should be removed, and the rest should be put into the previous paragraph. I can try this. It would likely be accurate to say that George Morrison didn't support Jim's career choice, but these particular comments occurred much earlier, so information asserting that the comments were in response to the Doors' debut should be removed. Any thoughts? Also, the section on artistic influences has some excellent information on Morrison’s vocal influences, but the paragraph is awkwardly written. It could use some copy-editing. 98.216.14.212 (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I think the section on Jim Morrison's personal life is not neutral enough. It also needs more citations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.250.116 (talk) 01:18, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Is it worth putting John Morrison as a character influenced by Jim Morrison? I note on Hennigan's page, this is referenced from the Wrestlecrap Book of Lists by RD Reynolds. I don't own this book and can't easily get a hold of it (this is NOT the same reasoning as is used in WP:OWN), but can someone look this up and confirm this, and if so, add it? Lemon Demon (talk) 07:46, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
This is just to let everyone know that I'll be doing some edits (mainly related to grammar and formatting) to make this article a little better and try to get it ready for a GA review. I welcome any and all help with this. Evanh2008, Super Genius Who am I? You can talk to me... 10:03, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I Think the image should be changed. I suggest the following image: jim-morrison-127677l, You can find it on google images. --121.219.231.111 (talk) 06:37, 4 February 2012 (UTC) Lachie Bennett - Lewis
I understand. I just thought that image best represented Morrison, and it is no doubt the most famous image of him. --101.160.181.203 (talk) 02:44, 5 February 2012 (UTC) Lachie Bennett - Lewis
Is there any chance we could get permission ?, Wiki could help maybe ?
--101.160.181.203 (talk) 05:13, 6 February 2012 (UTC) Lachie Bennett - Lewis
Thank You for your consideration. --121.214.42.23 (talk) 02:05, 18 February 2012 (UTC) Lachie Bennett - Lewis
This article needs a longer introduction. I'm serious. The reader needs to know something about Morrison's unstable behaviour when they read the beginning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.88.97.42 (talk) 00:03, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
The statement "Morrison reportedly had an I.Q. of 149" is utterly ridiculous. (a) Reported by whom? (b) How reliably? (c) So bleeding what? 149 is not all that unusual (from memory, about 2% of the population are at or above 148), (d) Does the IQ of everyone with an article in Wiki get a mention? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.94.86 (talk) 16:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
The current article says Jim died(?) of a "suspected heroin overdose" is incorrect. As explained in the book "No One Here Gets Out Alive", the authors explain that Jim had a fear of needles, even going as far to sabotage his own U.S. Army physical through various methods. 65.87.33.160 (talk) 06:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Heroin doesn't need to be injected through a needle, and the anecdote you mention doesn't mean he didn't do it. It can be snorted for effect very effectively. In the same book it's made clear that Pamela Courson, the primary witness present, believes he did just that, and from her stash. Thus her guilt over his death. It's likely he died because of the combination of alcohol, his respiratory medication, and insufflated heroin. 76.127.201.198 (talk) 16:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
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It would be nice to have a fair use image of one of the more iconic photos from this session. I think its fair use, as its discussed in the article. Joel Brodsky was the photog, which ive expanded a bit.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:13, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
This article, as of right now, is splattered with cite tags. I'm fine with the banner tag, or the section tags, or the inline tags, but not all 3. That's just silly. I don't know if this is supposed to be a joke or something, so I'm asking here first. I'll give this a week or so to see if anybody responds. If not, I'm going to remove the banner tag and section tags as they are redundant. The inline tags are helpful to know what specific concerns others have. Let me know what you think. 64.40.54.205 (talk) 22:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I have always understood that both Morrison's parents were Scottish in origin - from the Highlands. So who were these Irish ancestors? I think it's a case of wishful thinking, and until a verifiable source for this claim can be found (ie, the so-called Irish family name) then wikipedia should not accept this claim as fact. I got my information from one of his biographers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.246.21 (talk) 19:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Why does it say in the heading that his alcohol dependency started after the Doors got famous? I always read it happened years before, it would of had to of to of killed him at 27. Zdawg1029 (talk) 22:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to change it then.Zdawg1029 (talk) 17:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
The photograph of Morrison and his father (also featured on George Stephen Morrison ) is labeled as having been taken in 1964. This can't be right -- Morrison looks like he's barely adolescent in the photograph. He'd have been twenty years old in 1964. Can someone check the source on this photo for an accurate date? Frank Mottley (talk) 01:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Any idea what finally happened to his estate? Are any of the Morrisons or Coursons alive as of Oct 2013? Doubt it, since even their children would have been grandparents today. 86.41.93.162 (talk) 19:48, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
"Legend of the Lizard" was a musical performed at the Lyceum Theatre in San Diego (now closed) about 10 years ago in which the lead character was intended to be accepted as Jim Morrison. The music was the Doors music. When the play was over the off-stage band played "Light My Fire" as the audience exited the theatre (and then continued to its end as a handful of us lingered. Anyone aware the shows' writer, director, producer, et cetera. I'm looking to see if it is still being produced, and where!76.171.190.27 (talk) 02:13, 22 February 2014 (UTC)Don V
The theory that heroin could be mistaken for cocaine or the other way round is far-fetched. The two, I suppose, smell differently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montananevadagirl (talk • contribs) 15:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I personally know for a fact that he did "it" ..anyone who cares to dispute it speak up because this particular rhetorical discussion never gets old although there seems to be a distinct prevalence of apathy regarding his true nature in the article..sign of the times I guess..he had no musical talent..his poetry has never been published as far as I know except in private..he also has the distinction of being the only major rock star who wasn`t a materialistic capitalist..he checked out with exactly what he left home with..two cardboard boxes...one with a change of clothes..the other filled with paperback books. 24.240.171.194 (talk) 23:42, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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