Before the Ruin

Drever）和約翰·麥卡斯克爾（英语：John McCusker）的合作專輯《Before the Ruin（英语：Before the Ruin）》的錄製，並擔任其中歌曲〈Rest on the Rock〉和〈Out of Light〉的鼓手。 2009年，塞爾韋在馬丁·辛普森（英语：Martin

  Schramm, Mike. Ruin preview: Hack and social. Engadget. AOL Tech. 2011-06-07 [2017-07-04]. （原始内容存档于2018-06-12）.  Welsh, Oli. Ruin announced for Vita

long way to ruin your reputation. Zuqka. Nairobi: Nation Media Group. 16 April 2012-04-16 [2013-09-17]. （原始内容存档于2013-07-23）. It's during the Vietnamese

wrong option will only bring us ruin. That's it, that's my simple message.’ He also added ‘Let's not forget: What they (the Jamalul Kiram III faction) are

wrong option will only bring us ruin. That's it, that's my simple message.' He also added 'Let's not forget: What they (the Jamalul Kiram III faction) are