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Unai Emery

Hi there, from Portugal,

i apologize, i should have used an edit summary when reverting. Can we at least reach a compromise in the article's display (running out of time now, i'll get to it tomorrow), please? Three things come to mind: 1 - he did not have an UNDISTINGUISHED playing career, more than 200 games in the Spanish second tier is not that; 2 - please, it's full name of clubs in storyline, compression is for box; 3 - much more serious, PLEASE don't remove the seasonal links of competitions, one thing is (for example) the UEFA Champions League wikilink and another one the given season of the tournament.

Attentively, sorry for any inconvenience --Quite A Character (talk) 23:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Unai Emery

Thanks for the reply, no worries (we all have a life outside of this, well most do),

if you notice the end of the message I sent User:Mattythewhite and where I mentioned you, the ADMINISTRATOR says he agrees with the outline of the wikilinks (Champions League, SEASON of Champions League, etc) and with the personal life section being a section in its own merits. Thus, I will, when I can but still in this year, reinstate that display of the article and reach a compromise between your wording and mine.

About the club names being piped, I really fail to see why name (for example) an article for a ballclub CD Numancia then being forbidden to write the "CD" part in the storyline (I do understand the piping in box, for compression purposes), but i've outgrown that guideline a long time ago, I give up there and I concede that to you.

Attentively, happy editing/2018 --Quite A Character (talk) 21:34, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me.

On the specific points you raised with User:Mattythewhite, it doesn't matter that he is an administrator (or even an ADMINISTRATOR). Wikipedia doesn't work like that, as I'm sure you know - it is based on consensus, not asking a friendly admin to agree with you. Policies and guidelines have been formed based on consensus, and WP:FOOTY, which you cited, prefers a section on 'Early life' at the start of the article. On the subject of links, WP:Manual_of_Style/Linking#Link_clarity prefers that links be as intuitive as possible. The links that I removed and you restored were not.

From now on, if you don't agree, it's probably best to start a discussion on the article page to create consensus, rather than asking specific editors to back you up.

Cheers --hippo43 (talk) 23:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Sorry that you see it that way ("you went and whined to an administrator", i was aiming for a compromise, the only reason i put his "job" in caps was because i thought an admin's word was above all considerations), article stays how you want and i won't bother people about it anymore. Cheers back --Quite A Character (talk) 05:31, 30 December 2017 (UTC)