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Name

The title of the page should be changed to Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj.WorldWikiAuthorOriginal (talk) 15:14, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Article about King Sambhaji is defamation

The article is not well researched and it defaming reputation of our King Sambhaji! Vsansare (talk) 04:43, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2019

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Basically, in the whole article, Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj is referred to as "SHIVAJI" only which is disrespectful and unacceptable. I'd request you to change this and add atleast "Chhatrapati" before "Shivaji". Also referring Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj as "Sambhaji" only isn't acceptable. The Maratha Empire was not just like any other Mughal Empire who looted, killed and raped the people of the Indian subcontinent. So, there should be some respect in the way articles are written about the great Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj and Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj. Ishan waghmare (talk) 18:48, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

 Not done. See the FAQ at the top of the talk page. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 21:42, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Comments on the article

Reading the article through, I find that it contains a lot of POV statements. Not being an expert on Maratha history myself, I haven't edited the article, but it would be nice if someone removed the POV references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.201.37.65 (talk) 14:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I request Wikipedia to make a root level research on the topic of Sambhaji Raje, there are many allegations which are not only false but also insulting the greatness of the worrier. Kindly consider reframing the article, based on true events.

Ani patil knowledge (talk) 17:06, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Criticism

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Whoever is behind defaming sambhaji maharaj should know he is trying to fool himself and making a wrong statement with proof that with some books should also know how much study sambhaji maharaj did and how many languages he knew and how many books he wrote at a tender age of 14. Who ever is defaming him should know he is culprit of himself and defaming his forefathers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayur Kulkarni 1 (talk • contribs) 03:19, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Term "Holy sacrifice"

5 Holy sacrifice 6 Effect of Holy sacrifice

Isnt the term "holy sacrifice" too dramatic for an encycolpedic article? I think it should be replaced by death/ capture and death. Rakes 05:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Sambhaji's Death

Aurangzeb was impressed by Sambhaji raje , who fought a 180 kg tiger with their open hands and killed it .Aurangzeb himself says "ya allah kuon paida nahi hua aisa bahadur hamara jannane me ". Aurangzeb wanted Sambhaji to change his religion to Muslim and became a sultanate of Delhi .But Sambhaji raje rejected his offer because Aurangzeb was rude person . Sambaji raje is among the most honest ,brave ,respectable king who won all wars without loosing a single battle ,with a very little army of marathas. Shikhare the brother of sambhaji's wife betrayed him along with group of brahmins for gaining treasure with no idea about future of kingdom. The succeeding generations of this brahmins became writer and wrote a false history regarding this lion king Sambhaji.Raje fought till their last breath.Be aware of the false historians who make stories for money .Sambhaji raje did their great work for us.Not all brahmins were bad but some of them.It is our duty to stand for truth and fight the evil minded psychopaths.jay Shivray.....Har..Har..Mahadev.

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45.116.47.216 (talk) 19:46, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

please change name from sambhaji to CHATRAPATI SAMBHAJI MAHARJ

 Not done as per the FAQ at the top of this page - Arjayay (talk) 21:43, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Pls change it if possible Bherdeyugal (talk) 11:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Use of title Chatrapati before name of Chatrapati Sambhaji and Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj

Chhapati Shivaji Maharaj and Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj are gods for us. We do not mention his name alone in Maharashtra. We do not allow him to do so.Therefore, in places where only Sambhaji is written, it should be Chhatrapati Sambhaji and in places where only Shivaji is written, it should be Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. The Government of Maharashtra has also enacted such a law. Bherdeyugal (talk) 11:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Sambhaji's Capbility

Chatrapati Sambhaji was very very capable leader, as u can imagine he fought with Aurangzeb for 8 years who 
was armed with 5 laks of infantry,  4 laks of horse/camels/elephants and huge artillary he bought from 
british/Portugiz. While Chatrapati Sambhaji's army was maximum 60,000 and almost 10 times more was 
Aurangzeb's army. Still Chatrapati Sambhaji fought with moguls bravely and helped other two sultanates 
Kutubshaha of Goalkonda and Adilshaha of Vijapur. Till Sambhaji raje died moguls could hardly konquror any of 
his 350 forts even after wasting so much of money and army. But sambhaji raje was betrayed by many of his 
maratha/bramhin families like Shirke, Nimbalkar, Mahadik, deshpande,etc while common public was with Sambhaji 
Raje. Many of the Smbhaji raje's generals were from very poor famlies who were raied from ground zero in army 
like Mhaloji ghorpade, santaji ghorpade, Dhanji Jadhav, Hambirrao mohite, etc.
 One of the golden pages of his life was when he attacked Siddi's of Janjira, the fort which remained 
unkonqurred  till the end.He made the plan to Konquror Janjira along with one of his loyal general called 
KondajiBaba Farzand. Kondajibaba fooled the Siddi's and shod them he has betrayed Sambhji raje and ready to 
join hand with Siddi. Since Siddi's were very afraid of Smabhaji raje, they treated kondajibaba as if one of 
them. Kondajibaba was suppose to revolt from inside the janjira and Sambhaji raje was to attack from outside. 
But this ambitious plan failed because of one mistress who was with kondajibaba. With that all the 80 loyal 
and brave maratha armymen wer captured and brutelly killed by siddis. after that Sambhaji raje tried to built 
the bridge between Janjira and the coast. He himself lead the attack and at the end Siddi's had given up but 
their fate was in their favor. When siddi's were reached to consensus for surrender , moguls invaded in the 
land marathas so he has to return from konkan to the ghat (top of sahyadri lands) so could not give the 
finishing touch. 
 Similary he attacked on the Portugiz of Goa who always troubled the hindu citizens and tried to convert them 
to christen. That time viceroy of goa was Alver the Gont. He was armed with best of the artillary and army. 
But as sambhaji raje found it was not possible to defeat Portugiz by attacking Panjim fort, he tried to pull 
them out of Panjim by strategic planning and defeated them. After this battle portugiz were so frightened 
that they stopped helping moghuls. Once again luck was not in favor of Sambhaji raje, moghul prince Ajjam was 
climbing down the ghats of sahyadri so Sambahi raje has to return to raigad else there was a danger that he 
will be crushed with Portugiz and moghuls on eiether side. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.181.37.146 (talk) 15:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Capable leader indeed!

Right now I'm reading the very recently published "Sambhaji" by Vishwas Patil. The book has been published by Mehta Publishing House. The author has done extensive research and he, I would say, successfully establishes Sambhaji as a worthy successor to Shivaji Raje. The book even has an appendix to distinguish the facts from the currently known 'fiction'. I think people should read the book. I wish to edit the stub on Sambhaji and make into a proper article with the help of this book. I shall do so when I complete reading the book, which shouldn't take more than a week from now.

Floyd_n_milan 00:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Sambhaji's Death

The article includes graphic details of Sambhaji's death, Should be removed. dhoom 19:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes it makes the article more dramatic and more troublesome to read.However, the way Sambhaji was tortured to death was unparalled in the history of India.We cannot stand even a minor cut anywhere in our body.Inspite of being subjected to such inhuman torture,he did not give in his love for freedom and religion.Had he surrendered his kingdom in order to save his life and avoid cruel torture,perhaps nobody could have blamed him.However he did not do so.I would say that Hindu religion is still dominant in India and supreme sacrifice of Sambhaji Raje made a very important contribution to that.Aurangzeb was alive for another 18 years after the death of Sambhaji Raje.Had Maratha kingdom fallen,there would be no enemy left to Aurangzeb in the whole area to the south of Punjab and Rajasthan.Though the details of Sambhaji's death really make readers feel sad,I think they are important in as much as they prove beyond any shadow of doubt, Sambhaji's love for freedom and religion.Over the years,many historians portrayed him a negligent ruler and someone unworthy of being the son of great Chatrapati Shivaji Raje.However it is not true.The way Sambhaji faced death bravely symbolizes that.Still editors are at descrition to edit the article.

Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2020

The picture given in the wikipedia is inappropriate. Chhatrapati sambhaji maharaj never sat like this with rose in his hand. He was always ready to fight for swarajya with sword in his hand. The picture shown matches with mongal and rajputs. So kindly request to make the correction in the picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:959F:6CC5:24D6:9361:FF65:AFED (talk) 13:19, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Sambhaji's Capability

Chatrapati Sambhaji was a very capable leader. While Chatrapati Sambhaji's army was at maximum 60,000 and almost 10 times more was Aurangzeb's army. Still Chatrapati Sambhaji fought with moguls bravely and helped other two sultanates Kutubshaha of Goalkonda and Adilshaha of Vijapur. Till Sambhaji raje died moguls could hardly konquror any of his 350 forts even after wasting so much of money and army. But sambhaji raje was betrayed by many of his maratha/bramhin families like Shirke, Nimbalkar, Mahadik, deshpande,etc while common public was with Sambhaji Raje. Many of the Smbhaji raje's generals were from very poor famlies who were raied from ground zero in army like Mhaloji ghorpade, santaji ghorpade, Dhanji Jadhav, Hambirrao mohite, etc. One of the golden pages of his life was when he attacked Siddi's of Janjira, the fort which remained unkonqurred till the end.He made the plan to Konquror Janjira along with one of his loyal general called KondajiBaba Farzand. Kondajibaba fooled the Siddi's and shod them he has betrayed Sambhji raje and ready to join hand with Siddi. Since Siddi's were very afraid of Smabhaji raje, they treated kondajibaba as if one of them. Kondajibaba was suppose to revolt from inside the janjira and Sambhaji raje was to attack from outside. But this ambitious plan failed because of one mistress who was with kondajibaba. With that all the 80 loyal and brave maratha armymen wer captured and brutelly killed by siddis. after that Sambhaji raje tried to built the bridge between Janjira and the coast. He himself lead the attack and at the end Siddi's had given up but their fate was in their favor. When siddi's were reached to consensus for surrender , moguls invaded in the land marathas so he has to return from konkan to the ghat (top of sahyadri lands) so could not give the finishing touch. Similary he attacked on the Portugiz of Goa who always troubled the hindu citizens and tried to convert them to christen. That time viceroy of goa was Alver the Gont. He was armed with best of the artillary and army. But as sambhaji raje found it was not possible to defeat Portugiz by attacking Panjim fort, he tried to pull them out of Panjim by strategic planning and defeated them. After this battle portugiz were so frightened that they stopped helping moghuls. Once again luck was not in favor of Sambhaji raje, moghul prince Ajjam was climbing down the ghats of sahyadri so Sambahi raje has to return to raigad else there was a danger that he will be crushed with Portugiz and moghuls on eiether side.

Literary Contributions by Sambhaji

Ch.Sambhaji maharaj was highly sophisticated, educated and well versed in few languages other than Marathi. Keshav Pandit, alias Keshav Bhatta of Shringarpur, was an erudite scholar in the Nitishastra and Sanskrit language and literature. He seems to have deeper knowledge of the different forms of Sanskrit literature ; Hindu jurisprudence and the Puranas. He also seems to have made ch.Sambhaji maharaj familiar with the famous works of different sciences and music written by ancient scholars in the Sanskrit language. ^{[5] [6]} There are some excellent books by him at very young age.

There are 6 books by him. The most notable is Budhbhushanam^{[7][8] [9]} which is in Sanskrit and other 3 known books Nayikabhed, Saatsatak, Nakhshikha are in Brij language. (A form of Hindi language). ^[10]

In Budhbhushanam ch.Sambhaji Maharaj have written poetry on politics. In the book ch.Sambhaji Maharaj writes about dos and donts for a King and discusses military tactics. First few Slokas are praises for ch.Shahaji maharaj (his grandfather) and his father ch.Shivaji maharj, the great.

In Budhbhushan ch.Sambhaji maharaj praises ch.Shivaji Maharaj with following lines:

कलिकालभुजंगमावलीढं निखिलं धर्मवेक्ष्य विक्लवं य:। जगत: पतिरंशतोवतापो: (तीर्ण:) स शिवछत्रपतिजयत्यजेय:॥ ^[11]

Meaning: Like demon anaconda, evil powers swirl around and diminishes the righteousness, A great Shivaji Raje took incarnation to save the earth! Hail to glory of King Shivaji.

Vikram-dattu (talk) 15:25, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

You should address him as shambhaji Maharaj Ankita1501 (talk) 19:18, 3 March 2020 (UTC)