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Merge Mqm usa chapter

The new stub article would need a lot of work, and renaming, to be worth keeping - seems more appropriate to expand the information on international chapters in the "Party structure" section. PamD 17:52, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, agreed - redirected. Off2riorob (talk) 00:10, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

content removal

Hi - I removed this -

In 2010. after 18 long years Brigadiar Imtiaz and General Naseer Akhtar confessed and confirmed on Live Television that the story of Jinnahpur was fabricated and it was a drama staged by Brigadiar Asif Haroon. However they did not disclose the names of the people or institutions which were backing the named officer. However, this political charade proved costly for the Urdu speaking Karachiites as thousands lost their lives in the heavy-handed crackdown by the law enforcement agencies - particularly under the supervision of Naseerullah Babar, who was the federal Interior Minister of the PPP.

the youtube video was not an official upload and a likely copyright violation - feel free to reliably support and replace - thanks - Off2riorob (talk) 00:09, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I have also tagged the whole article as needing references - there is a fair bit of the contentr that is uncited and a fair bit is waekly cited to unreliable locations and the format of the citations also needs a fair bit of work - if anyone is able ot address these issues that would be extremely beneficial to the article - I can assist with the formating but I would need some assistance with any foreign language externals and assessment of the reliability of some of the sources. Off2riorob (talk) 00:14, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Biased tag?

I'd also suggest that this article is flagged as potentially biased. There are some very sunny-sounding sentences which rely solely on statements made by the party's leadership as evidence. 81.136.172.52 (talk) 16:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I would agree with you. Some cleanup is required Spasage (talk) 21:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Most of this page is horseshit. It's disgusting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.155.119.18 (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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Please Add the title "Muttahida Qaumi Movemen Namaloom Afrad " Rogerabert (talk) 06:03, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

No, absolute nonsense. Faizan -Let's talk! 06:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

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Victim of Taliban attacks − Taliban have launched many attacks on MQM workers recently and have killed several Mqm workers. The MQM is against the spread of Islam through violence and force only maligns the faith.[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/07/world/asia/taliban-bomb-kills-at-least-20-at-a-pakistan-political-rally.html?_r=0</ref>[http://dawn.com/2012/11/02/pakistani-taliban-threaten-to-target-mqm/</ref> Liberal guy 1 (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Begoon ^talk 00:33, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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India funding has been proved wrong, due to a reporting error by BBC. Gujjanani (talk) 21:04, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

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edit of 'designated terrorist organisation' to 'Federal Court of Canada Ruling'

i have changed the title of the topic as mentioned and i have also added few sentences

"MQM is not designated as terrorist organisation by the Government of Canada however, it has fully functional organisation in the country [ http://www.mqmcanada.com/, retrieved 25 Aug 2016 {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help); Text "MQM Canada" ignored (help)</ref>, and MQM is not enlisted as a terrorist entity by the Government of Canada[ http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-eng.aspx, retrieved 25 Aug 2016 {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help); Text "Currently listed entities" ignored (help); Unknown parameter |Publisher= ignored (|publisher= suggested) (help)</ref>"

i have also removed the category "designated terrorist groups in Canada

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Title

Since now Muttahida Qaumi Movement is divided between MQM Pakistan and MQM UK so I think we should rename this page either to MQM Pakistan or MQM UK. Farooq Sattar has been expelled by MQM UK leadership while Prime Minister of Pakistan has recently recognised MQM Pakistan formally as well Farooq Sattar as its leader. Opinions please. --Saqib (talk) 16:01, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Changing Title from Muttahida Qaumi Movement to Muttahida Qaumi Movement Smuhammadnabeel (talk) 17:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Please do not change the title, there is no such thing London, Muttahida Qaumi Movement is only one name under the leadership of Mr. Altaf Hussain. London or Pakistan name defined by Pakistan law force agency. Please delete this Word from all over the place. please don't change the title of this page to Muttahida Qaumi Movement London, there is only one recognized party according to election commission of Pakistan that is muttahida Qaumi Movement and there is no word 'Pakistan' attached to it since Muttahida Qaumi movement Pakistan is just one of several chapters of Muttahida Qaumi Movement which includes MQM UK, MQM USA, MQM South Africa, MQM Canada, MQM Australia etc, the MQM official website also contains the name 'Muttahida Qaumi Movenment'.

As for the article 'Muttahida Qaumi Movement Pakistan' it is not recognized by the ECP but as a forward bloc within Muttahida Qaumi Movement' and since some parliamentarians recognize their facion with such name.

i have brought the page to its original title

regards

User:Rameezraja001: As per press sources, the MQM is now divided into two factions. One is led by Altaf Hussain while the other by Farooq Sattar. The one led by Altaf Hussain is being referred as MQM London while the latter one as MQM Pakistan. So as per news sources, I've renamed this page because its no more just "Muttahida Qaumi Movement", it has become "Muttahida Qaumi Movement London". One solution could be we merge MQM Pakistan into this one. Since most of the party parliamentarian now with Farooq Sattar led MQM so we mention him as the current leader of the party instead of Hussain. --Saqib (talk) 05:38, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

please don't make it a political argument,

Farooq Sattar's party is called MQM-Pakistan, you can check their website which is MQMPakistan.org, Farooq Sattar has called his faction MQM-Pakistan and has cited 22 August as the formation date of his faction so it cannot belong to thi page.

MQM's website (MQM.org) calls itself just MQM, i can show several press releases where MQM has rejected using MQM London as its name. An organisation can call itself whatever the name it pleases and media is a nobody to change the name of a political organisation.

i hope you are satisfied now, i'll make a naming detail to elaborate the naming controversy

regards

case closed.

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User:Rameezraja001: It seems you're here to defend MQM rather than improving Wikipedia. First of all, avoid adding non-independent sources to cite the content that you're adding to the page. Cite only third party and reliable sources. We're not obliged to see what the parties wrote in their websites and press releases, we write pages here as per what reported by the reliable third party sources. For instance, according to Election Commission of Pakistan, Muttahida Qaumi Movement is registered as "Muttahida Qaumi Movement Pakistan" by Farooq Sattar. --Saqib (talk) 07:50, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

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MQM Ideology Dispute resoution

MQM`s founder and leader Mr. Altaf Hussain believes in Muhajir nationalism, how can we call it a secular and liberal party if it advocates Muhajir nationalism through both militant and political means and goes on to oppose certain other ethnic groups present in the city of Karachi where the party enjoys considerable support among the Muhajir diaspora. ^[1][2]. Based on its violent activities a federal court in Canada also declared the MQM as a terrorist organization in 2006, banning the entry of MQM members to Canada.^[3].

This is list of MQM Terrorists cases in Canadian courts

1 Baqri v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (T.D.), 2001 FCT 1096, [2002] 2 F.C. 85 Date: October 9, 2001 http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2001/2001f … t1096.html

2 Jalil v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.), 2006 FC 246, [2006] 4 F.C.R. 471 Date: February 24, 2006 http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2006/2006f … fc246.html

3 Ali v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.), 2004 FC 1174, [2005] 1 F.C.R. 485 Date: August 26, 2004 http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2004/2004f … c1174.html

4 Jilani v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), 2007 FC 1354, [2008] 2 F.C.R. D-6 Date: December 21, 2007 http://recueil.cmf.gc.ca/eng/2007/2007f … c1354.html

5 Naeem v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.), 2007 FC 123, [2007] 4 F.C.R. 658 Date: February 7, 2007 http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2007/2007fc123/2007fc123.html

6 Mohammed v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.), 2006 FC 1310, [2007] 4 F.C.R. 300 Date: October 30, 2006 http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2006/2006f … c1310.html

7 Samimifar v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.), 2006 FC 1301, [2007] 3 F.C.R. 663 Date: October 30, 2006 http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2006/2006f … c1301.html 91.212.53.253 (talk) 11:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

References

1. https://www.dawn.com/news/1419725
2. https://www.geo.tv/latest/114347-British-MP-aims-to-have-MQM-declared-terrorist-organisation
3. https://karachiexpress.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/mqm-declared-a-terrorist-organization-by-a-canadian-court/

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Under leaders section; the name Wasay Jalil should be removed as he is no longer a member of the party Twxntysevn (talk) 18:21, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Twxntysevn:  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.. We can use that reference for the Controversy section (where I just added a {{citation needed}} tag) and also update the Leaders section. GoingBatty (talk) 19:09, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Remove Wasay Jalil from leaders

https://twitter.com/WasayJalil - check bio section of twitter https://www.samaa.tv/tag/wasay-jalil/ https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/04/28/wasay-jalil-quits-mqm/

From these links you can see that Wasay Jalil is no longer a member of the MQM party — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twxntysevn (talk • contribs) 21:06, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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Grammar / meaning correction

Under 'Controversy' " many MQM workers rounded off." I think it might be more accurate to say 'rounded up.'

•  Done, thanks. — kashmīrī ^TALK 11:00, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — kashmīrī ^TALK 10:59, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

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• Please delete Saeed Bharam Name under the President, He is no more belong with MQM. If you need authentic letter please let me know.
• Please change the Title Muttahida Qaumi Movement - London TO Muttahida Qaumi Movement. There is no such London or Pakistan. MQM is only one under the leadership of Mr. Altaf Hussain
• For Reference see link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaf_Hussain_(Pakistani_politician)
• Much appreciate for your promopt Response. Smuhammadnabeel (talk) 18:00, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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Merge

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I suggest we merge MQM Militancy into this article PalauanReich^🗣️ 22:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Since the MQM attempts to be a political party first and their 'militancy' is done unofficially, I think it would be better to separate it. It's not like the MQM ever officially claims their attacks. I am not sure how to simplify it in order to merge them together? Mydust (talk) 22:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

The MQM Militancy has so much enriched and detailed content that it deserves a separate space. Insight 3 (talk) 14:54, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

merge since all of this can be mentioned in the history section of mqm London article FLA-ALP-1 (talk) 12:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

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In the Background section, please remove “foreigners from several South Asian countries.” There is no source backing this up 2600:100C:A200:22B7:5584:A69B:27B1:8244 (talk) 02:58, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

I added {{citation needed}}, since there doesn't seem to be a source for the entire sentence. GoingBatty (talk) 13:54, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

 Partly done: the tag should do for now. M.Bitton (talk) 11:56, 19 October 2023 (UTC)