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01. In the lead section, mention that Biden is the oldest president. (RfC February 2021)

02. There is no consensus on including a subsection about gaffes. (RfC March 2021)

03. The infobox is shortened. (RfC February 2021)

04. The lead image is the official 2021 White House portrait. (January 2021, April 2021)

05. The lead image's caption is Official portrait, 2021. (April 2021)

06. In the lead sentence, use who is as opposed to serving as when referring to Biden as the president. (RfC July 2021)

07. In the lead sentence, use 46th and current as opposed to just 46th when referring to Biden as the president. (RfC July 2021)

08. In the lead section, do not mention Biden's building of a port to facilitate American aid to Palestinians. (RfC June 2024)

Dark Brandon

I saw that Dark Brandon isn't mentioned in this arcticle. I think it should be mentioned somewhere in here, like 'In 2023 Biden started embracing his meme-persona, Dark Brandon and still frequently does' Leikstjórinn (talk) 18:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Its a meme that has little relevance to Biden personally. Dark Brandon currently redirects to Let's Go Brandon#Dark Brandon which is enough. Zaathras (talk) 19:19, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

"John Biden" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect John Biden has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 4 § John Biden until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Biden's role as point person for Ukraine

The article as currently written ignores this crucial fact. It is discussed at length here:

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/biden-has-proven-track-record-ukraine-what-can-we-expect-his-administration

I don't know the best way to integrate this fact into the article. I hope somebody more proficient at editing can do that. KHarbaugh (talk) 16:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

That is probably best suited at Presidency of Joe Biden or Foreign policy of Joe Biden, rather than the article about his entire life. 331dot (talk) 16:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Its also a blog, so might not meet RS criteria. Slatersteven (talk) 17:10, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

For another reference, see

"What Will Ukraine Do Without Uncle Joe?

Vice President Joe Biden led the administration’s support of Ukraine.

But Kiev worries whether the next White House will have its back as Putin looks to ramp up pressure."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/30/what-will-ukraine-do-without-joe-biden-putin-war-kiev-clinton-trump/

"No one in the U.S. government has wielded more influence over Ukraine than Vice President Joe Biden. As the Obama administration’s point person on Ukraine policy..." KHarbaugh (talk) 13:36, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Responding to the comments above:

1, Biden being Obama's point person for Ukraine preceded by years Biden's presidency.

2. The. blog in which this was posted is not a mere personal blog, but that of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars KHarbaugh (talk) 09:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Then that would be part of Presidency of Barack Obama if Obama picked Biden as his point person. It could also be described at Biden's foreign policy article(since his prior experience likely helped form his policies) 331dot (talk) 09:31, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

The article on Biden as currently written contains this:

"Biden visited Iraq about every two months,[129] becoming the administration's point man in delivering messages to Iraqi leadership about expected progress there."

Your reluctance to mentioning Biden's analogous role with regard to Ukraine is utterly bizarre. KHarbaugh (talk) 09:55, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

He has visited Ukraine every two months? Slatersteven (talk) 10:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

The analogy is that he was point person with respect to both Iraq and Ukraine. KHarbaugh (talk) 10:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Except this makes them different, so the analogy does not work. If not for your instance over the use of this blog you might have relasied that one of the sources were already used for the Iraq claim also includes Afghanistan in the same statement "Besides making Biden his point man on Iraq and Afghanistan". Slatersteven (talk) 10:27, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

One blog's opinion. Not terribly important. Zaathras (talk) 21:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

What IS a point person? HiLo48 (talk) 00:52, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Efn footnotes start at [b]?

Does anyone know why this is? It's supposed to start at [a] right? According to my command+f, there is no [a] tag on this page. Other pages do not seem to have this issue. Finnigami (talk) 21:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Notes can be found at the bottom of the page under the section "Notes". There's an "a" at the start of that list. XeCyranium (talk) 03:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)