User talk:Oliver Pereira/Archive 3
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Don't like the word octothorpe? That's okay. I didn't like it much either. ;) Phil Bordelon 05:20 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- I hadn't even heard of it until I read it in the Wikipedia a couple of weeks ago! -- Oliver P. 05:23 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- There's a band by the name, and my Python teacher used it all the freaking time, much to everyone's consternation. My use of it was more inside joke than anything. I changed 'hash sign' to just 'hash', since Unicode likes it more, and it's in more common usage (at least here in Louisiana). No chance you play Tanbo, or did you just pick it as a good page to Extreme Wiki on? ;) Phil Bordelon 05:26 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. I call it a "hash sign", but I don't really know if that's standard anywhere in particular. As for playing Tanbo, sorry, but no, I just picked a new page from "Recent changes" at random to pointlessly fiddle with, as a way of avoiding what I'm supposed to be doing. Maybe I should have taken up Tanbo as a way of avoiding what I'm supposed to be doing, but that would have taken longer... ;) -- Oliver P. 05:37 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
We in Ireland call it a hash sign too, hash being something one smokes, not presses. BTW Oliver, I put some more info on Sinead O'Connor on her talk page. You might enjoy it! :-) User:Jtdirl
- Yep, I've just read it. Nice story. :) -- Oliver P. 05:52 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Oh, hell, may as well call it a 'number sign' and be done with it. Fixing. ;) Phil Bordelon 05:55 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- Oh, but I chose not to call it a number sign because that's... American, isn't it? Clearly the correct way to show a number is with "No.". ;) -- Oliver P. 06:13 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- I propose a new, non-national name for the symbol #: the 'ambiguous.' While its name may be, its title is not. No more "What do you call that damn thing?" Nay, the world will rally around such an obvious renaming, to be sure. Phil Bordelon 06:30 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the active Wikipedians links - I was going to do so... but then you'd already done it. Which was nice :) Martin
- No problem. :) -- Oliver P. 18:07 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
I finished my symphony!Pizza Puzzle
- Symphony? What symphony? -- Oliver P. 18:19 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Battle of Babylon <---Click me
Thank you for your note on copyright images, but I don't understand your concern or your authority? The images I uploaded, contained no copyright declaration. Note however, that I followed the exact requirements to enable me to place a photo into Wikipedia that are built into the software to protect Wikipedia from liability copyright infringement in accordance with the DMCA. I note there are hundreds and hundreds of others who did not add the extra voluntary note when uploading photos, so why did you not question each of them but have chosen to question mine? That is in fact an act of discrimination, an act which can have real legal ramifications for Wikipedia, not photo copyright violations for which Wikipedia has absolutely no liability of any kind. Discriminate against me or anyone and you place this open site in jeopardy. I suggest you start looking through the hundreds of other photos placed here prior to mine before you choose to discriminate against me. Second, as you seem to be unaware of certain parts of the law, but I recognize that being a lawyer is not a requirement of uploading photos to Wikipedia, images of public figures already on the internet etc. fall under the fair use provisions unless identified with copyright and owner source. Wikipedia wants photos, because they created the software to allow it, and created the required tick box for legal protection and their insurers. Photos add value to articles. No photo placed here by me had any copyright claim of any nature. And, I am not required by law, nor is Wikipedia by the DMCA, to check out if a photo not labeled as "copyright" should be. That borders on the absurd. And, in all circumstances, FIA and others, are very appreciative when an encyclopedia uses these photos in quality biographies - it is called free advertising for them and promotes their sport. Just, please do quality biographies from scratch like mine. Margaret Smith Court - Maureen Connolly - with photos. Want more? Joe Canuck 14:47 15 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- note: I've copied this to Joe Canuck's talk page, to keep everything together. I won't delete it because I know you don't approve of my cut&pasting activities... ;-) Martin 20:49 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Sorry Oliver but you are wrong re-Zoe, as is explained on the Votes for D page by myself and Tim. You are talking about the normal course of events. Zoe was dealing with an extreme case and in such a case many sysops do what she does. The behaviour of some vandals in some cases simply don't give the option of waiting a week. In some cases, rarely but they do happen, sysops have to immediately. I would have acted in a different manner (using a different power first) but Zoe's behaviour is perfectly understandable in the circumstancs she was dealing with, and it is grossly unfair to attack her for doing her job when her doing her job cuts down on the risk of wiki being closed down because of copyright breaches and so avoids your work (and mine and everyone elses) being summarily deleted with wiki's forced closure. If she didn't respond then all the work of all the contributors could be for nothing if one company who found their text had been placed on wiki went to court and got an immediate close down ordered, or one was ordered by Jimbo to protect his company. And saying that we were supposed to put it on a discussion page so people could chat about it for one week would be no defence. They would want to know what it was not removed immediately. This particular user continuously reinstated text that was 100% breach of copyright. In that situation Bomis and wiki would have been fucked in the event of any court case. Zoe correctly treated the situation as an emergency that needed immediate action. And she like many sysops did in that situation what sysops do in emergencies, react immediately by deletion. It can later be reinstated and undeleted, but at that moment she judged that to cover wiki it had to be deleted. And I would certainly defend her right to to what she would, as would many sysops. FearÉIREANN 06:32 16 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- I can't see how there would be any legal problems. If someone actually made a complaint, we would remove the material as and when the complaint was made. I can't see any court ruling that the Wikipedia would have to be closed down after that. -- Oliver P. 06:43 16 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- Nod. We're protected by having a wikipedia:designated agent which, IIRC, gives us 15 days to make an informed decision before taking material down. (but IANAL) Martin
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