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Canvassing
Yeah, interesting how that's enforced on one side around here, huh. Mindraker (talk) 22:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- For the record: user blocked indefinitely. Daniel 23:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
My RfA
Thank you for your questions in my currently on-going RfA. I would like to inform you that I have indeed answered your questions and would be happy to see what you think to my responses. Thanks, Jhfireboy Talk 23:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Done. Daniel 05:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
WikiDaniel is wikistalking me... help plz
Later :( Spebi 04:52, 17 December 2007 (UT
- I've just realised how big my signature looks on your page... Spebi 04:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Mediation
Hi Daniel. I want to ask your advice on how content disputes are resolved, as you're familiar with mediation processes as well as the content involved (John Howard plantations). I'm just not familiar with the processes within Wikipedia. There is still reverting going on at the article. As you know, I submitted it for a Mediation Committee hearing, but because a couple of editors didn't wish to participate, it never got to mediation. In a case such as this, where there is no clear or decisive outcome (opinions are divided), how can it be settled in one way or another. It would be great to have a mediator to oversee a civil discussion and arrive at some compromise, but what does one do when some parties don't want to participate? Do you have any suggestions for a process to arrive at consensus? Thanks, Daniel,Lester 19:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if consesus can't be reached by involved editors, maybe soliciting input from uninvolved editors to try and determine a consensus either way may be a good idea. Short of that, ask everyone involved if they are willing to try mediation (which is basically a negotiation discussion trying to compromise and find a solution which everyone accepts), and if they are file a request for mediation. Otherwise, there's arbitration if people are behaving badly and nothing else works. Daniel 05:24, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Mediation Cabal
Hello. You are listed under the "volunteers to help new mediators" on WP:MEDCAB. I am after some help. If you can help me, please reply to my talk page. Thanks -- Whiteandnerdy111 (talk) 20:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately not, due to my currently-busy schedule and my personal opinion on some of your editing which means I envisage I couldn't assist you in an honest way while still being encouraging. Daniel 05:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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Arbcom case on Defender 911
I've filed a request for arbitration regarding Defender 911 here. Since you've been leading the charge against allowing him back, I listed you as a party ... feel free to comment. Blueboy96 23:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- I object to the characterisation that "[I've] been leading the charge against allowing him back", and I am only as "involved" as the other ten admins who endorse the block (excepting Krimpet as blocking administrator, and WJBscribe as largely involved pre-block). I have removed my name from the list of parties, although I still intend to comment — I hope this is OK with you. Daniel 00:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- No problem ... I just listed you because it seemed you were the most vocal in objecting to him being unblocked. Just so you know, my position is pretty close to yours ... it seems Dan T. and Kendrick wanted the block reduced to time served, but I thought he should wait a few more months before being unblocked. Blueboy96 13:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
DYK on Bob Glidden
Winningest is a real word. I worded it carefully to be the same as the source used. I see it all of the time in motorsport sources. I do not object to your rewording of the hook, so the case is closed as far as I am concerned. The main page can't say that he had won the most money when he retired, because that may not be true. Royalbroil 00:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. Daniel 00:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- I was hoping that the main hook would have been used instead of the alternative. See my talk page for more details. Royalbroil 00:32, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- I never saw the alternate, unfortunately. If you provide me it I'll replace it, or you're probably free to do so yourself. Cheers, Daniel 00:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- I changed to the primary hook as you suggested. Please review it to make sure that it makes more sense. Cheers! Royalbroil 00:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, and I'd say a touch more interesting too! Daniel 00:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- I changed to the primary hook as you suggested. Please review it to make sure that it makes more sense. Cheers! Royalbroil 00:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- I never saw the alternate, unfortunately. If you provide me it I'll replace it, or you're probably free to do so yourself. Cheers, Daniel 00:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- I was hoping that the main hook would have been used instead of the alternative. See my talk page for more details. Royalbroil 00:32, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Gomez Mill House.jpg
Would you fix the licensing on the image? If it's a copy of a Commons image, would you delete it? Royalbroil 15:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- It was for {{mprotected}}. Daniel 08:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you!
Hi there! Just dropping a note to say "thank you very much" for your support in my successful RfA. I appreciated the added questions you brought forward, and I'm pleased that my answer was such to earn your strong support. BLP issues are an important danger for admins to consider, and I intend to ensure that I'm very careful with how I handle such articles. As I mentioned in my statements, I tend to default towards attempting mediation when dealing with tough situations, and I respect the work that you and the MedCom do, so having your support is gratifying. Thanks again for your taking the time to participate. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 05:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
RfA
Thanks. :) I'm taking things slowly right now (especially because of all the off-wiki distractions during the holiday season), but I'm looking forward to trying out the new tools! Have a good holiday season, --Elonka 10:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
RfM - quick question about process
Hi Daniel. Sorry to bother you a second time. If I submit a second request for mediation on the J.H. article, who should I list as interested parties? Previously, there was a RfC some months ago which attracted huge numbers of people commenting. Then there was the first RfMedation which had an extremely long list. On 6 December I restarted the subject on the article talk page and a handful of people joined in over the past 2 weeks. Should I just submit those names of people who have discussed it over the past 2 weeks? Thanks, Lester 11:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- Firstly, sorry for the delay in responding. Yes, probably only the recently-involved parties, and then only those who would be considered the "most involved", not those who have commented once etc. Daniel 09:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured_portal_candidates/Portal:South Australia
Hey Daniel, good job already. I've left a comment there for you to mull over, although I think its irrelevant considering in the current quality of the portal. Best, Rt. 19:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- On the subject of portals, Portal:Powderfinger is aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawessssommmeemememememem :) Spebi 20:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- You can't deny you do get a lot of lovin' for your portal work, big D. And don't go saying you have limits! — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 08:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Mediation and arbitration in foreign language Wikipedias
I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask, but I was not yet able to find an answer. What is the mediation and arbitration process in cases of disputes in foreing language wikipedias. The issue are not articles but the adaptation of general wikipedia rules to a specific foreign language wikipedia. Just as an extreme example, I expect that copyright rules have to be applied by all wikipedias and this is valid for other general wikipedias too. What happens if a decision is taken which is against these rules or if there is a dispute regarding these rules. Who has the right to decide and how can the mediation or arbitration process be initiated? Sorry for the inconvenience. Afil (talk) 03:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, the English Wikipedia Mediation Committee doesn't deal with policy issues such as copyright etc., but rather specific disputes about specific articles. On foreign Wikipedias, the process would probably be different to Wikipedia, but in response to "how can the mediation or arbitration process be initiated" the best place would be to ask an administrator on that language-chapter for assistance in starting dispute resolution. Cheers, Daniel 09:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Mediation for Banu Qurayza
Hi,
Arrow740 has just listed him/herself as a party in a mediation that has already started.
However, the user was not at all part of the dispute. The user hasn't posted on the talk page since September (which is before most of the disputes started). I'm a bit worried, due to my past experience with Arrow740 on other Arab/Islam related articles.Bless sins (talk) 15:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- I will discuss this with the mediatior, Shell Kinney, and get back to you as soon as possible. Cheers, Daniel 09:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Why?
Why don't you explain why you're trying to hide your failed RFA? Why can't you have it in normal format like everyone else does? Instead of reverting with a "hell no", maybe bother to explain your actions, eh? Redrocketboy 16:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- By the way, you aren't as popular as you think - "hundreds" of links weren't broken. Perhaps fewer than 10 per page, which I would have gladly fixed. You are nothing special, so why do you think you can get away with it? Redrocketboy 16:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Real life reasons — many of the links aren't on Wikipedia. Move on to your new account and start editing productively, and leave me alone. Daniel 08:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Oi!
Happy Holidays
RfA Thanks
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- Thank you very much :) Daniel 09:06, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks again for your advice. Regards, Lester 09:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Portal:Powderfinger
... is sucking minor-ish-ly, but the Selected picture section is struggling. I can't find any decent pictures to fill in the gaps in /2 and /5, and I've used the good ATGD tour ones we uploaded from Flickr. If you could dig up some pictures on-wiki and/or off, I'd really appreciate it :( Spebi 09:52, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I recently reached Level 17, and selected Summon Images as my skillI'll see what I can do. Daniel 09:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)- For the record: I contacted Spebi privately and sent him a huge dump of links to free images. Daniel 00:35, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Most of which I had already found, but Daniel pointed out a couple of good ones :) Spebi 00:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Why do I get the feeling someone is watching my user talk page... Daniel 00:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Because you know that someone is watching :) Spebi 01:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Who? — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 04:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Because you know that someone is watching :) Spebi 01:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Why do I get the feeling someone is watching my user talk page... Daniel 00:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Most of which I had already found, but Daniel pointed out a couple of good ones :) Spebi 00:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- For the record: I contacted Spebi privately and sent him a huge dump of links to free images. Daniel 00:35, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- By the way, Portal:Powderfinger/Selected article was updated as requested, to include all GA albums. Should we do songs too? — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 04:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Disputes in foreign languages
Thank you for your advice. I am however facing a problem in following your advice. I am an administrator but there is no concensus among administrators on how to deal with this question. The problem is a problem of policies not of articles. There must be somewhere where administrators can find guidance or where they can turn to. Unfortunately I did not zet find that place and nobody seems to know. Afil (talk) 20:08, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
DYK
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List
What is this list of editors for? (It was referenced by someone in an MfD, which I thought was rather odd, since the list is in your sandbox and doesn't explain what it is, or what the criteria for inclusion are.) WaltonOne 17:43, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- It is a bunch of users I am keeping an eye on because I have suspicions that they could be using Wikipedia inappropriately. The criteria for inclusion is users who I suspect may get themselves into trouble by not editing mainspace, and mainly users who I spot in-and-around the "shop scene" which has been controversial recently. Daniel 01:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- With all due respect, while you're entitled to keep whatever you want in your sandbox, I don't really think it's fair to maintain a list of this nature. If you have evidence that any of these users are violating policy, then take it through the official channels (ANI, RfC, etc). If, on the other hand, they haven't done anything wrong but you just don't think they've been contributing enough to the mainspace, then I see no reason to single them out like this; it's only likely to make those users feel like they're under attack (although I'm not implying that you were intending to attack them in any way) and make them less likely to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. I won't nominate the list for deletion or anything like that, but I personally think you should remove it. WaltonOne 16:15, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough — I've blanked it, although I still intend to use the historical revision for the purpose stated above. Daniel 05:17, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- With all due respect, while you're entitled to keep whatever you want in your sandbox, I don't really think it's fair to maintain a list of this nature. If you have evidence that any of these users are violating policy, then take it through the official channels (ANI, RfC, etc). If, on the other hand, they haven't done anything wrong but you just don't think they've been contributing enough to the mainspace, then I see no reason to single them out like this; it's only likely to make those users feel like they're under attack (although I'm not implying that you were intending to attack them in any way) and make them less likely to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. I won't nominate the list for deletion or anything like that, but I personally think you should remove it. WaltonOne 16:15, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:Rescue
Template:Rescue has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Benjiboi 21:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- *blinks* Don't ever remember editing that. Thanks anyways, Daniel 02:50, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Happy Holidays!
Hope you have fun! Cheers, Master of Puppets Care to share? 02:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- And you too. Cheers, Daniel 03:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)