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Hi Tbhotch: Do you ever assist people who are interested in translating Wikipedia articles from EN to ES? Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 04:24, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks for your patience and diligence. I thought there might be a few readers of the ES Wikipedia who might be interested in Williams. The story of Coahuila and Texas and the Monclova government is interesting. Williams played a small part of it. I do not plan to translate the whole article unless WikiProject Texas has interest in it. Saludos y pesetas, Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 17:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
The ES Wikiproject Texas looks dormant. None of the listed users are currently active on ES. Best, Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 14:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Rosetta Barnstar
For your selfless collaboration on the translation of Samuel May Williams. Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 01:07, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
chencho gyeltshen
in first sentence club must be shortened to "paro" and either no confirmation for 0 (0) stats with tertons so make it empty, otherwise its clear vandalism!
chencho played and scored in afc cup, update
Indef move protection
Hi, Could you please undo your indef move-protection as there's no need for it to be move protected, Someone moved it without discussion and now we're discussing having it moved back and at present no one has prematurely moved it and this doesn't look likely to happen given the amount of drama it's caused,
Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:15, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi! I'd deleted this, then saw your contestation (should have checked first, of course). Does that objection still hold? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:29, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
I just wanted to thank you, Tbhotch, for so frequently posting this protection icons. I see your work frequently and it is greatly appreciated, especially by admins like me who often forget. Thank you! LizRead!Talk! 19:43, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the redirect Kızılay (diambiguation) should be deleted, kept, or retargeted. It will be discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 23#Kızılay (diambiguation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Logan Williams requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either
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Todd Bridges
Hi, I saw that you had edited the page about Todd Bridges. I noted that his television appearances list is incomplete.
Todd also starred in two episodes of ‘Buck Rogers in the 25th Century’ which was a TV show by Glen Larson in 1979.
Perhaps you could add this as I am new to Wikipedia and have no idea where to start!
Hello. Recently we had an undo/redo of a semi-protected page. In an edit summary, you told me it won't unprotect the page by undoing it (Which makes since), but you added a 2nd tag to it. Wondering how the edit you did to Portal:Current events/2020 April 30 wasn't pointless (Which is why I undid it in the first place). Elijahandskip (talk) 19:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
You have vandalised the page of a trusted figure with inappropriate facts and information so i suggest you to undo and replace all of the true and controversial details in the page of 'Brahumdagh Bugti' Aloha31 (talk) 20:36, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Sloppy observation?
You have reverted my "move" of the article "Greatest Croatian" to "Greatest Croatian (poll)" back to "Greatest Croatian", over redirect and with edit-summary "unexplained move", which isn't exactly true, since I left an explanation which you obviously overlooked - "unusual title clarification" - which is short but clear enough explanation for this uncontroversial move, where the word in parentheses, (poll), is added to the title. Since the article is just description of the poll conducted in the country under the question "who is greatest Croatian", with its result being obviously and appropriately called "greatest Croatian, and since, I guess, you have needed tool at your disposal, it would be nice that you move it back to "Greatest Croatian (poll)". Thanks and take care.--౪ Santa ౪99° 19:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Would you kindly put a protection icon on each of these pages? Sutfeld (talk) 00:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Robert De Niro
Hi, the page Robert De Niro is indefinitely semi-protected but is missing a protection icon. Can you fix? Thanks. Chessend (talk) 10:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
as Musikbot removed including the move padlock can you place on Great spotted woodpecker as I can't edit due to filter. thanks. 176.88.78.53 (talk) 11:18, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Can I request padlocks on massive protections of Tony, the log is here starting from May 30 to June 7. Thank you. 14.54.76.235 (talk) 10:09, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Hey T, I noticed your page protection at Karan Johar and I'm curious if that was in response to a protection request that you saw somewhere, or if you were just watchlisting it. Context: I removed content about the subject's sexual orientation that I felt was poorly sourced, and it was subsequently silently reverted, so I was curious if that specific BLP issue was what triggered the semi. Thanks and regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:53, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hello. I would like to ask you if you would like to contribute. Only if you interested. 115.164.191.163 (talk) 09:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Raymix (musician)
On 19 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Raymix (musician), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Oye Mujer", a song certified 14× Multi-Platinum (Latin) in the US, was composed by Mexican musician Raymix while he was participating in a NASA educative internship? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Raymix (musician). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Raymix (musician)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I recently updated the article Garci Rodríguez de Montalvo on the English Wikipedia, but had to rely on some Spanish language sources. Since I speak very little Spanish, I used Google Translate. I don't have experience using non-English sources, but feel the Google translation is accurate enough as a reference. Can you tell me if there are any specific rules I should follow regarding the matter? I'm not doing any direct quotes, so I don't think a 100% accurate translation is required. Thank you.OvertAnalyzer (talk) 03:02, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Lusito Comunica
¡Hola Tbhotch! veo que es mexicano, así que le hablaré en español, no sé como comentarle esto, a lo mejor lo estoy haciendo mal "encima del mensaje de otra persona" pero bueno... "No controlo mucho esta plataforma"
En la página "Luisito Comunica" estaba añadiendo su altura 1,69 y su peso 55-56 a 58 kg, se que mide 1,69 porque su amigo Rayito (afirmó 1,72 el mismo) y a Luisito en todos los vídeos e imágenes se le ve 3 cm más bajo (se nota siempre claramente) le dejo el vídeo de Rayito donde afirmó el 1,72
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_ptVVYkPk el vídeo es (Respondiendo Preguntas Incomodas) en el segundo 0:50 le preguntan cuanto mide, y responde "1,72"
Y ahora miré este vídeo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTufbnp_u5A el vídeo es (Un Día con Luisito Comunica) fíjese en el minuto 10:25 a 10:40, en el espejo se ve como Rayito le saca 3 cm, luego acto seguido se ven los dos montando en patines, y se les alcanza a observar el calzado (el de ambos es muy similar) también hay mucha imágenes y vídeos donde se ve esto que le saca 3 cm, pero no voy a estar poniéndolas todas...
Y ahora le dejo el vídeo donde habla Luisito de su peso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1adGMdN4SA el vídeo es (Siendo VEGANO por una semana!) Hace una dieta vegana por una semana, para ver que tal le va. Minuto 1:14 comienza con 56 kg y en el minuto 16:55 acaba la semana con 55 kg.
Bueno disculpe las molestias, lo he hecho lo mejor que he podido, le he puesto varias fuentes, como puede ver es verdad todo lo que digo.
Por favor, si puede usted editar su wikipedia de Luisito Comunica y poner su altura y peso exacto (1,69 y 55-56 kg) ya que yo no controlo mucho de esto y usted lo hará mejor.
Y si puede poner sus medidas también en la wikipedia española, pues sería aún mejor, y corrija un error que creo que hay en la wikipedia española :dicen que Luisito es de religión judía" yo sigo desde años a Luisito y es la primera noticia que tengo (creo que se confundirán con su amigo Rayito) que ese si dicen que es judío.
Por favor, ponga la estatura y peso exactos de Luisito si puede y tiene tiempo, o si me deja a mi luego... como usted quiera.
Ya sabe que muchas wikipedias de famosos tienen sus medidas y casi siempre están erróneas...
En el caso de Luisito si son reales esas medidas.
Le mando un gran saludo desde España amigo, espero que me escuche:)
¡Hola de nuevo Tbhotch! respecto a Luisito Comunica, he visto un mensaje "que parece que me han mandado" que dice algo así como: La Ley de Protección de datos española tiene unas reglas muy estrictas, que eso era especulación o algo así, y pues no se podía publicar o no sé qué...
¿Entonces en la wikipedia inglesa si se puede no? es que hay algo que no entiendo Tbhotch, no pensé que esto fuese a ser tan difícil...
Por ejemplo: yo veo que en las wikipedias de famosos hay un montón de datos erróneos (respecto a la estatura y el peso) y no pasa nada, parece que se quedan esos datos erróneos ya para siempre...
Y aquí que se están aportando pruebas y fuentes contundentes, dicen que "especulación y esas cosas"...
La pregunta es ¿Por qué esos datos de otros famosos quedan erróneos y no pasa nunca nada? ¿y para el tema Luisito Comunica se ponen tantas pegas...? (Cuando esto se ve que es verdadero)
"Digo yo" bastante más especulación serán las wikipedias de famosos llenos de datos erróneos...
Además en la wikipedia española pone que Luisito es judío ¿de dónde ha salido ese dato? Luisito no es judío, el que es judío es su amigo Ryan (Rayito)
¿Por qué ese error si se tolera?
Espero que me aclares todas estas dudas bien aclaradas, saludos Tbhotch:)
Entiendo su postura, aunque Tbhotch, Luisito si que se podría decir que es modelo, ha actuado en varios comerciales y tiene su propia linea de ropa "El Rey Palomo" además que es el novio de una modelo "aunque eso entiendo que no sea ya tan relevante"...
Además que todos los youtubers cuando alcanzan cierta fama (como es el caso de Luis con más de 30 millones de suscriptores) les dan ya las medidas, ya que a los fans les gusta mucho saber las medidas de sus ídolos.
En el caso de Luis concreto, si considero de relevancia saber sus medidas, ya que está entre los 10 youtubers más populares del mundo.
Y con Luisito no se esta haciendo lo mismo que con otros famosos y que además están llenos de datos erróneos...
¿Y por qué pone en la wikipedia española que Luisito es judío? si no lo es. ¿eso si está mejor?
Pienselo Tbhotch, solamente son unas medidas correctas sobre Luisito, no me parece la cosa tan grave, cuantos menos famosos las tienen y además erróneas...
Entiendo que Luisito no es un boxeador, pero es el ídolo de millones de personas (y eso lo consiguen muy pocos)
Piénselo amigo, saludos:)
Tbhotch le añadí texto a mi mensaje, (Luisito es el ídolo de millones de personas) por favor amigo piense en ello, son datos útiles que a los fans les gusta mucho saber (y además hay fuentes) saludos:)
Tbhotch PewDiePie claro que tiene wikipedia, y en la wikipedia española pone que su altura es 1,75.
Por eso pienso que Luisito Comunica merece altura y peso en la wikipedia anglosajona, los vídeos que le mandé son fuentes verídicas que lo demuestran.
Luisito es como el "PewDiePie hispano" sólo que con un contenido de más categoría. Por eso considero que no es para nada un atraso que aparezcan sus medidas.
Y veo que es usted también el que ha retocado la wikipedia en español de Luisito, ya no pone que sea judío.
Entonces usted puede poner la altura y peso en ambas wikipedias, piénselo seriamente, tenemos unas pruebas muy buenas de sus medidas y a sus millones de fans les encantaría saberlas. Luisito es un youtuber con más de 30 millones de seguidores repartidos por todo el mundo "en especial el hispano" yo mismo soy de España, a mi si me parecen unos datos muy relevantes sus medidas.
Por favor amigo, piense ello,en los fans "mientras no se meta en un lío" espero su respuesta, un saludo:)
Amigo Tbhotch, pero es que conseguir que Luisito diga "mido 1,68" es casi imposible...
No ponga la fuente de dónde hemos sacado el 1,68. Pero si sé que mide eso ya de sobra, lo tengo muy estudiado de sus vídeos con Rayito y un montón de fotos.
¿Entonces las alturas de las wikipedias de famosos de dónde salen?
Si resulta que siempre están igual con los datos erróneos...
No me diga que eso es gente todo el rato manipulándolas...
Porque yo hoy, he probado por primera vez, a cambiar alguna altura, y es que en cuanto toco alguna altura de la wikipedia, a los pocos minutos ya se dan cuenta y lo vuelven a corregir para mal...
¿No puede poner la altura sin fuente y ya está? verdad es.
Le insisto, espero respuesta amigo, un saludo:)
No, no es nada fiable esa página...
Luisito pesará 58 kg actualmente.
Entiendo, las alturas muchas veces son cogidas de páginas web que miden y pesan a las personas.
Pero no siempre es así.
Por ejemplo: A Ernesto Sevilla, la wikipedia le da 1,81, cuando su estatura verdadera es 1,76.
O Paco León, (que el mismo afirmó 1,80) y siempre le ha dado la wikipedia 1,81 "no es gran cosa" pero bueno...
O el actor Tom Holland (que afirmó el mismo 5'7") (1,70) y tanto google como antes wikipedia le daban 1,73.
O la actriz Eva Isanta (que afirmó ella misma 1,63 o 1,62) y wikipedia insiste en darle 1,64.
O Vanesa Romero, que ella (afirmó 1,71) y wikipedia insiste en darle 1,72.
O uno de los más grandes de todos Tom Cruise, el realmente nunca ha dicho su altura, se imaginan que es 1,70, pero eso de su boca no ha salido nunca...
Por eso le pregunto: ¿De dónde siguen saliendo esos listados aún así?
¿Y no puede poner la estatura de 1,68 de Luisito aún así? por favor.
Espero respuesta, un saludo amigo:)
Amigo escúcheme por favor, no quiero seguir siendo cíclico con este tema, pero ayer estuve intentando retocar las alturas de esos personajes que le he mencionado, y si duraban alguna vez más 30 minutos con la corrección "tenía suerte" porque otras veces no duraba ni 3 miseros minutos...
Y además, se me ha olvidado mencionarle a Kiko Matamoros (el mismo afirmó medir 1,81) y la wikipedia insiste constantemente en darle 1,91... sigo sin entender eso la verdad.... ¿Cómo consiguen filtrarse esos datos TAN FALSOS y prevalecer tanto en el tiempo ...? 10 cm más de lo que él mismo afirma es muchísimo ya...
Sí, fui random, pero Luisito es que está entre el 1,68 y el 1,69, yo le daría más 1,69 definitivo, aunque con precisión será 1,68, pero 1,68 largo... 1,69 básicamente.
Amigo entiendo que usted no tiene la altura de Luisito tan controlada, y cree que será tema de calzado y a lo mejor no es eso lo que mide a ciencia cierta, pero es que después de la escena del espejo en el vídeo, se montan en unos patines y se ve que llevan calzado similar, y en casi todos los vídeos e imágenes se aprecian bien esos 3 cm que Rayito le lleva, ahí hay una diferencia notoria siempre, incluso he averiguado alturas de personas de esa manera, sabiendo lo que mide el otro, de verdad es verídico.
Si usted no puede añadir la altura y el peso de Luisito lo añadiré yo "si dice que me deja" pero sin fuentes, no veo la necesidad de eso...
Si usted no va a retocarlo, se supone que no tiene porque ir nadie a manipularlo en principio, además a los fans siempre les gusta saber esas cosas:)
Qué me dice amigo ¿puedo añadir medidas bajo su consentimiento?
Espero respuesta amigo, saludos:)
Tbhotch, quería que me respondiese, pero como parece que en el mensaje anterior da a entender que puedo añadir las medidas de Luisito, pues las voy a añadir, pero no voy a poner la fuente, es que no veo la necesidad de eso.
Altura 1,69 m (5 ft 7 in)
Peso 58 kg (130 lbs)
Quería avisarle para que no le pille por sorpresa.
Saludos y gracias:)
¡Hola Tbhotch! quisiera poder hablar con Melanie, quiero saber por qué ha eliminado información de la wikipedia de Luisito Comunica.
Saludos y Gracias:)
Ya Tbhotch ¿Pero cómo puedo hablar con ella? es que ella no me ha comentado nada, usted si me comentó.
Y esto no se lo comenté a usted, pero hablé con uno en internet, que me dijo que vio a Luisito en persona "el medía 1,72" y dijo que Luisito era más bajo que él, que estaba por el 1,68 o 1,69.
¿Podría usted enseñarle los vídeos? aquellas fuentes que le mandé, es para ver que dice, o si me puede contactar con ella.
Saludos y gracias:)
Tbhotch ¿Puede pasarme la página de ella?
desde el PC no puedo sacarla.
Saludos:)
88.1.155.238 (talk) 19:39, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
¡Hola Tbhotch! gracias por las molestias, ya me está quedando bastante claro el tema, no voy a insistir ya más "además que no puedo"
Quería solo que me aclarase algunas dudas: ¿se podrán algún día agregar las medidas de Luisito?
y otra cosa: ¿usted sabe de dónde proceden las alturas de Google? yo no tengo ni idea, y es una cosa que siempre me ha llamado la atención.
Pues nada más que eso.
Saludos:)
De acuerdo entendido, gracias:)
Pero después de eso que me ha dicho, me surgen nuevas dudas, siento ser pesado "que le vamos a hacer"
Eso que dice me parece muy bien "de hecho sería lo más lógico" ya me lo ha dicho más veces.
Pero eso es que va a ser "casi imposible"
El problema puede venir, por ejemplo: Imaginemos que Luisito dice que mide 1,72 o 1,73 "que puede pasar" por lo que sea a lo mejor: "dice su altura en zapatos" Obviamente sabemos ya que es menos, sobre 1,68- 1,69, ya que (Rayito afirmó 1,72) y Luis es notoriamente más bajo ¿se podría retocar más adelante? ¿o una vez que dice x cifra, se terminará quedando al final con eso?
Si le traigo justo ahora cuando me responda, un vídeo en el que Luis dice su altura ¿Le daría la que el propio Luis dice? ¿u otra más "realista"? yo considero, que en wikipedia tienen que ser los datos lo más realistas posible.
Pues nada, esa nueva duda, saludos:)
A ver, si eso está muy bien, así nunca falla, pero usted me ha dicho que si Luis dice su altura en un vídeo reciente se podía ¿Todos los que tienen medidas incluidas en wikipedia, están siempre totalmente medidos al milímetro exacto?
En el mensaje a Melanie, usted dice que el vídeo que dice el peso es de 2014/15, no, exactamente es de (septiembre de 2016) le hago una pequeña corrección, aún no llega a los 4 años, pero bueno.
He estado observando el tipo de Luis, y la verdad es que me la jugaría a que sigue pesando lo mismo que en 2016,puede que algún kilo más si acaso, la verdad que lo veo exactamente igual de delgado que siempre.
A lo que voy, si le traigo un vídeo en que el propio Luis, dice que mide por ejemplo: 1,73 ¿qué se haría?
Saludos:)
Amigo pues estamos de enhorabuena, porque tengo ese vídeo "Luis dice su altura en un vídeo" el vídeo tiene menos de un año.
Lo malo, es que efectivamente, la altura que afirma no se corresponde con la realidad. ¿se le dará su estura real? ¿o la que el dice? independientemente de si es autentica o falsa...
¿Le mando el vídeo entonces?
La fuente es esta:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtabIXbHieg
En el minuto 5:03 le preguntan la altura y responde: "como 1,70 y tantos" no es muy preciso.
Es 1,69 descalzo y en zapatos (1,70 y tantos...) pero no son tantos...
¿Corrijo la altura y pongo 1,69? no sé como se añade el peso para que quede bien, si lo puede hacer usted, que es el que sabe de verdad.
Muchas gracias Tbhotch por las molestias.
Sí el aproximadamente me parece bien.
Luego si cualquiera lo retocase le aviso.
Saludos:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.150.85.43 (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Perdón, olvidé las tildes.
79.150.85.43 (talk) 20:17, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
¡Hola Tbhotch! siento molestarle ya tan pronto, pero ya ha habido alguien que a retocado la altura de Luis y le ha dado 1,72.
Voy a intentar dejarlo bien, o si puede pasar usted cuando pueda y arreglarlo.
Y Google ha empezado a darle 1,73 ¿eso tiene que ver con el 1,73 que alguien le dio en wikipedia?
Es que va a resultar que tanto esfuerzo para nada al final...
Pues nada, eso quería comentarle, saludos:)
Hi , Thank you for deleting a personal attack on my page from IP.The IP: 93.142.66.189 also attacks users and makes reverts on Drazen Petrovic article page where he broked 3 reversion rule in the last 24 hours also leaving direspecting comments against other editors as you can see on Drazen Petrovic revision history page [] , the IP was already warned by you and several other editors. I wish to remove his edit on Novak Djokovic talk page since he also attacks other editors too [] . -Theonewithreason (talk) 15:38, 07 August 2020 (UTC)
Youtube source (Kimba the White Lion)
Did you even read my summary I gave when I reverted your edit? If a law professor can give a YouTube source in one of her books, how is Wikipedia any different? And you asked for a consensus to add a YouTube source. Where exactly does it say that I need a consensus for that? Do explain, if you will.
The video in question was very much reliable.Karl Malone the Mailman (talk) 20:19, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Topo Chico
Hi Tbotch,
I hope all is going well.
I started a draft for an article on the Topo Chico neighborhood of Monterrey, Mexico. I have one good source in English. Do you know of any good Spanish-language sources? Even a good general history of Monterrey or Nuevo Leon might have enough about Topo Chico village to flesh out the article. thanks, Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 15:49, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Citibanamex logo.png
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The edit will be redone. Do not revert it without providing documentation proving the claim. A biography is not documentation. A report card is documentation. The good faith article also states “not to assume bad faith”. You did that. The change made is unbiased and is meant to improve the accuracy of Wikipedia. Your undoing of my contribution centered on your feelings for Madonna. If Madonna wants to prove the claim, she is welcome to. The sleepwalker (talk) 11:43, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
@Sleepwalker: Before you hector and lecture other editors about sourcing, you should read some Wikipedia policies. I can see that someone has already provided links to relevant policies on your talk page. If you have already read these policies, I urge you to read them again. Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 14:09, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Adding sources to some Taylor Swift's nominations
Hi, good afternoon!
I did not put those wikipedia citations, another user added those nominations, but I did spend the whole morning reorganizing and formatting the awards, precisely now I was going to place the correct citations, do not reverse the edits, thank you. Aziel014 (talk) 23:05, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Jackie Hollywood
¡Hola Tbhotch! he visto en su página en español que no le gusta que le digan de "usted" lo siento, ya que lo otra vez resulta que me dirigí así todo el tiempo...
No sé si te acordarás de mi, espero que sí, soy el de la IP 88, el que insistió tanto en poner las medidas de Luisito.
Bien últimamente he estado aportando a la wikipedia "básicamente alturas" eso es lo que más, si ya de paso notaba algún error en algún archivo trataba de corregirlo y así iba. Pero a última hora, quería aportar algo más que solamente eso, así que me creé una modesta página de usuario "ya que no controlo mucho" e investigué como poner imágenes en los archivos que no tenían.
Y me salió bastante bien, comencé a poner imágenes en archivos que no tenían y quedaban perfectos, para alguien tan novato como yo, aquello parecían obras de arte:)
Aunque rápidamente todo aquello se truncó de un plumazo:( Un señor de wikimedia "creo" retiró absolutamente (todas) las aportaciones de imágenes que hice.
Resulta que ocurría algo de derechos de autor, permisos e historias de esas...
Lo que quiero decirte es que estoy creando un borrador llamado "Draft:Jackie Hollywood" si lo pones en la página de wikipedia te aparece.
Esta chica "Jackie Hollywood" es estadounidense y es una cantante rapera, modelo y entrevistadora de grandes personalidades.
He hablado con ella por instagram, y no le importa que siga adelante, le parece bien.
Me gustaría que me ayudaras a crear su articulo, ya que hay cosas que mejorar y yo no sé ¿cómo se pone la ficha de información personal al lado derecho?
Yo te proporcionaré todas las fuentes que necesites.
Por favor Tbhotch, tu eres un gran experto wikipedista ya, ayúdame a crearle el articulo, de verdad he hablado con ella, te dejo el enlace de instagram, el comentario de la imagen, soy pacopelucon:
Hi Tbhotch! I saw that you did touch-ups, thank you.
I believed that being a new article if you could put any image.
So how could you put an image on it: can you put it on?
If I ask Jackie and she says I can, (although she may say no) or she doesn't answer now ... but could it be?
Anyway the image is not so important, what happens is that it is better if you have it.
And you think they accept Jackie's article, can you make it accepted?
Hi Tbhotch! I have left you a message on your page in Spanish, I leave you the same message here too, just in case you review the Spanish page less.
Greetings and thanks:)
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{{Ficha de actor
| nombre = Jackie Hollywood
| imagen =
| nombre de nacimiento = Jackie Palatnikov
| fecha de nacimiento = {{fecha|2|06|1989|edad}}<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/CFY7yogh1zu/ Fecha de nacimiento]</ref>
| lugar de nacimiento = {{bandera|Estados Unidos}} [[San Francisco (California)|San Francisco]], [[California]], [[Estados Unidos]]
| residencia = [[West Hollywood]], [[California]]
| nacionalidad = [[Estadounidense]]
| otros nombres = Jackie Hollywood
| ocupación = [[Rapera]]<ref>[https://www.jackiehollywood.com/#:~:text=Born%20and%20raised%20in%20San,step%20further%20and%20start%20rapping. Jackie Hollywood: Rapera]</ref>, [[locutora de radio]], [[bloguera]], [[modelo]] y [[youtuber]]
| género = [[Hip hop]], [[pop]]
| años activa = [[2007]] - presente
| cónyuge =
| pareja =
| estatura = {{altura|m=1.65}}<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BUIY6I8Fxd5/ instagram 5'5"]</ref>
| myspace =
| facebook =
| twitter = jackie Hollywood
}}
Jackie Palatnikov (nacida el 2 de junio de 1989), más conocida por su nombre artístico Jackie Hollywood, es una rapera, entrevistadora, modelo y YouTuber estadounidense[1] de San Francisco, California.
Historia
Vida personal
Jackie Hollywood, nombre de nacimiento "Jackie Palatnikov" 2 de junio de 1989. Nació y se crió en la ciudad de San Francisco, California. Ella es la primera de su familia en nacer en los Estados Unidos, ya que su familia es de Rusia.[2] También pasó algunos años viviendo en Los Ángeles, y recibió el apodo de "Hollywood" en la escuela. Dados sus orígenes, Hollywood habla ruso con fluidez.[3] Se graduó de la Universidad Estatal de San Francisco y tiene una licenciatura en radiodifusión.
What disruption are u talking about? Im using Wikipedia not disrupting it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.87.24.198 (talk) 14:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I know they are broken. But we dont know ir those are true. Wikipedia is a cristal ball and we cant just base or peqks on faith that fans never used that as fake positive. I never mean to disrupt wikipedia. Thank you for ur messagesl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.87.24.198 (talk) 14:54, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
October 2020
Taekwondo
Hello: I received this message from you
Information icon Hello, I'm Tbhotch. I wanted to let you know that one or more external links you added to Taekwondo have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. (CC) Tbhotch™ 18:36, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
I was trying to put a link to a free instructional video library by world and Mexican champions in taekwondo
Not trying to infringe any rules at all. Would you please let me know if it was not appropriate?
thanks a lot —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsrobinson (talk • contribs) 18:41, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Statue of Heydar Aliyev, Mexico City
Thanks again for your work on the Columbus monuments in CDMX. I've asked here about the current location of the Statue of Heydar Aliyev. Do you happen to know? ---Another Believer(Talk) 22:57, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Tbhotch, Thank you very much! I was going to add the "dagger" to Template:Public art in Mexico City for this statue, but then realized I wasn't sure if the memorial was actually displayed somewhere else. ---Another Believer(Talk) 23:02, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
@Another Believer: I found information about what happened. I'll add it to the talk page. It could be a good DYK if enough text is written. (CC)Tbhotch™ 23:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Tbhotch, Wonderful, thank you. I don't want to burden you with questions, but if you don't mind, I've struggled to identify a few things I saw during my trip to CDMX a couple years ago. I'm going to post a gallery of images and wonder if you'd be willing to identify them (if you know anything) or think they deserve a Wikipedia article. No rush, I assume you have many other things to do, too. Thanks! ---Another Believer(Talk) 23:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
near Museo Memoria y Tolerancia. Should this have a Wikipedia article?
Doneoutside Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral. Do you know anything about this? Should this have a Wikipedia article?
outside Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral. Do you know anything about this? Should this have a Wikipedia article?
Doneat Alameda Central. Should this have a Wikipedia article?
Doneat Alameda Central. Should this have a Wikipedia article?
If you don't know anything about these, that's ok, I just rarely know people in CDMX to ask for more info. Thanks! ---Another Believer(Talk) 23:15, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
@Another Believer: There's no problem. The problem is I remember reading about this, probably at Commons, about identifying some subjects. For example I thought the Statue of Paul P. Harris (Mexico City) was about one of the founders of Mabe (company) (near his left hand you can see the word "mab" which is very similar to the Mabe logo; perhaps they donated it). But as I got stuck with that one I desisted. My immediate answer to the question "Should this have a Wikipedia article?" would be "If they are notable on their own, yes. Otherwise merge them". I could find only one source for the Juárez one , but it's just a passing mention. The other ones are more likely to have articles considering their location but I'll need to discover the subjects. (CC)Tbhotch™ 00:11, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Tbhotch, Thanks! Yes, I understand Wikipedia's general notability criteria, but I'm unable to determine English-language sourcing until I know more about these things, and I assume there may be more Spanish-language sourcing (unfortunately, I do not speak Spanish). If you learn anything more about these, please feel free to ping me. ---Another Believer(Talk) 00:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
@Another Believer: Is the Statue #3 located near Statue #2? I was confused about #2 because I didn't remember seeing it, but it is located in the unnumbered backyard near number 39, on the upper right corner. (CC)Tbhotch™ 18:34, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Tbhotch, Yes, I believe statue #3 should be near #2, if I recall correctly. --Another Believer(Talk) 20:22, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
No. 2 is "Bartolomé de las Casas Fountain"/"Fountain to Bartolomé de las Casas". The Spanish name is either combination of: Fuente + de/a (+ Fray) + Bartolomé de las Casas. Worths an article? Possibly there are more offline sources about it, because all I can find online is trivial.(CC)Tbhotch™ 18:57, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Very helpful, thank you. I see there is no English Wikipedia article for this person. Might you be willing to create a quick stub for future expansion? I am curious about the English title translation. ---Another Believer(Talk) 20:52, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing link below. ---Another Believer(Talk) 14:12, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello Tbhotch. Thank you for pointing me to the song articles for "Better in Time" and "Footprints in the Sand" to see they were also released outside the UK as one single together. I felt it was giving a misleading impression to have the chart positions listed twice, when these are not for "Footprints in the Sand" as an individual single, so I put the "rowspans" in for the UK and German chart columns now instead of just the UK. I hope this is a comfortable solution. Thanks. 1.42.129.18 (talk) 01:31, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
They are similar. This source says, "There are eight emblematic sculptures and fountains known as: The Americas, The Danaides, Neptune, The Nymphs 1 and 2, Mercury, Spring and Venus..." I think The Danaides, Neptune, Mercury, and Venus have been identified at Commons and have Wikipedia articles. Do you know if these would be "The Nymphs"?, and if so, should these also have articles? I assume "Spring" refers to La Primavera, but I'm not sure about "The Americas" and if this is pictured at Commons? Finally, do you know what File:Mexico City (2018) - 499.jpg is called? ---Another Believer(Talk) 15:26, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
I couldn't find information about this one online. Probably a tourist guide or someone working in the church can help. As far as I could find, it is located in a restricted area.
I've asked here. Maybe someone will be able to help, some day. ---Another Believer(Talk) 14:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
The Rotonda de los locutores is part of the "Plaza de San Juan", located in es:Barrio de San Juan (Ciudad de México). It would be better to have an article about the square or the barrio.
Let me investigate about those two sculptures. (CC)Tbhotch™ 04:06, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
@Another Believer: I found this link (Note, it will download a PDF) from a 1992 document. The distribution might have changed since then (I doubt it). I don't know if you remember their location. Anyway, I'll check GMaps when I can do it. (CC)Tbhotch™ 16:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Tbhotch, Thank you. I will take a look later and see if I can reconcile which landmarks already have Wikipedia articles and which do not. ---Another Believer(Talk) 16:49, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
According to this source , #14 is described: "In Juarez Avenue with Dr. Mora, there is another sculpture of a reclined naked woman, Greek style ... whose author is unknown." (CC)Tbhotch™ 19:27, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for another question. File:Mexico City (2018) - 503.jpg shows a sign for "rotonda locutores". After a quick Google search I found this source. Do you think there should be a Wikipedia entry for this memorial site? If so, might you be willing to create a quick stub or at least suggest the best title? ---Another Believer(Talk) 15:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you :D (CC)Tbhotch™ 03:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Edit on List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: A
Hello Tbhotch,
Regarding the edits to List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: A, the link you provided from the Trinidad Express, I was unable to read any statement quoting Michelle-Lee Ahye as saying "I am not lesbian." In order to read the full article, you have to have a subscription. I take your word for it, however. I do apologize for that. I take issue with the implication that I violated WP:BLP though. The original source stated she was a lesbian. You deleted her name and image from the list and simply gave a link to an article that I was unable to read and no explanation. The List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people pages are frequently vandalized with people added or subtracting names on a whim. I have worked very hard to find good sources on additions and to combat vandalism in the pages, so I may have reacted rashly to your edit. I am sorry. ExRat (talk) 22:14, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
@ExRat: After checking the source again, it was Paula-Mae Weekes the one that denied being lesbian—whatever reason she is being mentioned in an article about Ahye. I, however, found the archived link previously there, but it doesn't say she is lesbian either. We can only report she was married to a woman (now they are separated, as far as I could find), but not determine her sexuality without her explicity confirming it. (CC)Tbhotch™ 22:36, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I agree. If there is some contention about her sexuality, it is best that she is not on the list. While the original references states that she is a lesbian, there seems to be some denial or disagreement. Since she is a living person, it would be best that she only be added to the list if she makes a public statement claiming that she is a lesbian. Cheers! ExRat (talk) 22:56, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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27 October - Johnny Rapid
Hello, I'm Jtoc4. Thank you for the clarifications. Jtoc4 (talk) 17:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hello. First of all i want to thank you in all your work with Miley content. Last week, the user GagaLuv1 was reverted amd warned nu several users and amdins about not adding content that is against majority of the users that edit there. U warned him and he tried to sneak the content again with different format so we couldn't notice. If you go to her page you will see she alaways is reverting people without previous consensous and she doesnt seem interested in following guidelines. In fact, she neen adding non fair images and has already been blocked. Have a good die. Xx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Night Crawling (talk • contribs) 12:06, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
David Guetta
Hello Tbhotch, I did not know that this was false. Truly, I really did not know. I am truly sorry and will make more of an effort to prove these facts before I accept a revision. Please forgive me. Helpthepeople9 (talk) 01:06, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for your help at the talk page for George Payne (actor)! What do you think of the recent improvements to the article page? Right cite (talk) 22:32, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
@Right cite: Thanks for upgrading the page, but I am neutral towards the subject. (CC)Tbhotch™ 22:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi. Why did you revert my change? Chechnya-Chechnyan, Somalia-Somalian, Serbia-Serbian, Russia-Russian. So it makes sense that Turkmenia-Turkmenian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetkind5 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 19 November 2020 (UTC) --Sweetkind5 (talk) 15:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Some things don't require source. It is a basic logic. If Turkmenia can be used to name a country, then it must have a respective demonym, in which case it is Turkmenian (which is very logical and grammatically corect given the examples above). --Sweetkind5 (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
"Wikipedia:You do need to cite that the sky is blue, especially because there was an edit-war weeks ago between if it was Turkmenistanis or Turkmen." What do you mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetkind5 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Oh, okay. So that's the problem. Well, here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/asklinguistics/comments/9www88/in_english_is_there_a_rule_which_determines_how_a/ , https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/61765/rules-for-forming-demonyms. Hope that helped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetkind5 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Also, I don't know how to add a source in the article itself. So please do that for me using the one (or ones) I provided above. --Sweetkind5 (talk) 17:20, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Lewis Hamilton talk page
I know that unsourced material, particularly libellous material, should not be in articles. However, the section you removed has no material, simply consisting of someone asking a question and me pre-emptively reminding them of our no forum limits. Isn't removing it a bit heavy? Britmax (talk) 18:47, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Ah. Fair enough, thanks for that. Britmax (talk) 20:07, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Miss Universe 2012 page
Hi! As the last registered user to revert edits in the above page, can you go and revert the edits that a anonymous user has put in the Results page? It looks like they’re trying to predict the winners and results for this year’s pageant. I know some things about edits but don’t know how to automatically revert back.
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Deleted content
Just because I didn't provide reliable sources doesn't mean I need to be in undo. I don't put reliable sources in Wikipedia at all and normally we don't do a fight. No section in Wikipedia's Content Policy says there must be a reliable source. Slovenia does speak Esperanto; it is not true that it doesn't. --Wikireverse-ho (talk) 05:32, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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can u add mileys peaks of comeg get it abe do tm to miley cyrus discography idk how to do it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Highwaynmbr3 (talk • contribs) 21:22, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Conchita Campbell
Hi Tbhotch! I wanted to ask you something.
In the English wikipedia of "Conchita Campbell" it says that she has Spanish ancestry, but there is no source.
I would like to know how real that data is or if it is simply a rumor. In almost all the pages that I look for the "IMDB" type it says yes, just like in wikipedia.
Did she ever say that herself? What if it's true how do you know?
It is understood.
I don't know if I would say it either, just that many pages put that.
It may be a rumor, but someone was responsible for promulgating it very well.
I will still have the doubt.
Hello Tbhotch. Sorry that I did not explain all of the changes I made to the article, but I also thought most editors would be aware that we do not need flatlists in the infobox anymore because when you visit the infobox template page, it says to just list the items as bullet points so I didn't think this would be a change that I needed to explain. The venue field I also removed because the infobox templates for albums and singles say this field applies to live recordings or recordings made in a live venue only. It looks like for the majority of recordings it has no function and is unlikely to be filled out, so I make it a habit to remove it. I started doing this after I saw other editors saying the same thing in their edit summaries. 1.43.5.83 (talk) 16:01, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, and thank you for coming to look at the article on Girly. I agree with your assessment that the article is not B-class. However, I would love your thoughts on whether the article is C-class, and if not, what would be needed to raise it to that. I've also added a discussion on using the author's deadname at all in the article; I'm not sure I agree with removing it but I'd value your thoughts. Thanks again, HenryCrun15 (talk) 01:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Congratulations! With 6,644 views, your Statue of Heydar Aliyev, Mexico City hook is one of the most viewed hooks for the month of December. Accordingly, it has been included at DYKSTATS December. Keep up the good work! Cbl62 (talk) 21:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much. (CC)Tbhotch™ 22:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Revert of Mexico metro stubs
I notice that you have reverted some of my edits regarding moving some articles from Category:Rapid transit stubs to Category:Mexico metro stubs. I just wanted to explain those edits. All the articles you have reverted relate to rapid transit/metro systems in Mexico, I can not see anything in the category or the stub template saying that it only relates to Mexico City Metro. Given that the non-stub parent category is Category:Rapid transit in Mexico not Category:Mexico City Metro it would appear to me that the stub category is for all rapid transit systems in Mexico and not just the Mexico City system. Waacstats (talk) 18:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
User warning templates
When an IP performed Special:Diff/993129133 you placed a {{uw-npov1}} on the IPs talk page. Is this the correct template? To me this looks like unsourced defamation. Wouldn't {{uw-defamatory1}} be the appropriate template in this case (personally I would skip straight to {{uw-defamatory2}})? SSSB (talk) 11:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for tagging Detroit. I'm about to take an hatchet to the photos. Loading the article on a handheld will kill your monthly download limit! Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Pluto
Why did you add as a source to File:Plutodog.gif? It's obviously not the source and not official. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Nowhere in the WP:NFCC criteria states that files must come from the official provider. They only need to come from a previously published source. If you believe the file you uploaded is better than the current one, then take it to WP:FFD. And please, stop edit-warring, you are the only one supporting your change. (CC)Tbhotch™ 15:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
You're wrong. Previous publication. Non-free content must be a work which has been published or publicly displayed outside Wikipedia by (or with permission from) the copyright holder
We have zero proof that is was published by Disney or with their permission. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
AIV Fort-Saket report
I've blocked him now, but ... did it occur to you that maybe he might not have known he was doing anything wrong and was risking getting blocked if he went on, because no one thought to warn him? You can't exactly get people prosecuted for trespassing if you don't post your bounds.
And if he was a sock of a previously-blocked vandal, I didn't see that in your original report. Daniel Case (talk) 05:25, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Human body/redirect. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 19#Human body/redirect until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 14:25, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
La Raza metro station
Hello:
The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article La Raza metro station has been completed.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
You have provided the ridership statistics for both lines which both show declining readership. If there is an explanation for this, it might be worth adding.
Regards,
Sorry!
Lieutenant commander Spock (talk) 2:40, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
MariaJaydHicky
In the future, it would be helpful if you could add new socks to an already open case report like this, rather than opening a new case for every sock. Sro23 (talk) 23:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
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