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Hi there, and welcome to Wikipedia! And thanks for your contributions so far. I'll just go ahead and ask: based on those contribs, might you by any chance happen to be a Nordic citizen? If so, consider signing up on the pertinent list of Wikipedians: Danes, Finns, Norwegians, Swedes, or others(?). --Wernher 20:44, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hi
I've seen your very useful contributions to some of WP's cricket articles, just wondered whether you'd be interested in signing up on Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket. It's the place where WPians who edit Cricket sometimes highlight their work or seek advice on how to develop WP's cricket-related pages. You'd be more than welcome. Kind regards, jguk 07:20, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome - yeah, I have done now. I'll try to write as often as I can. Sam Vimes 08:58, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
Hey Sam, Would you by any chance belong to Cricketweb.net? If you are, I'm Blackcap_fan from there. Mysticflame 06:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi again Sam
I thought I better let you know that the reason why all the English cricket season matches are on pages beginning Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/ is because the text for each match appears in a number of different articles - eg the main English season article, the articles for each of the counties, and the competition article. Where a match write-up will only appear on one page, it's best to keep the text of that match on that page rather than use Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/. For instance, and tell me if I'm wrong, I imagine your write-up of the Antigua & Barbuda Presidents XI v Pakistan game, will only appear on the Pakistanis in West Indies in 2005 page. Kind regards, and keep up the good work! jguk 15:04, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
Apparently there is a way of transcluding articles in the main namespace - which I hadn't realised. I've been advised that this is preferable as it makes it easier for mirror sites to pick up what we've written. Therefore I've started moving all the Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket pages to 2005 English cricket season/ pages. These can be transcluded by using {{:2005 English cricket season/match details}}. Kind regards, jguk 21:01, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Good to see you back after your 4 days away. I'm afraid my write up of the Second Bangladesh Test might not be as good as what you would have written - but I didn't know when you were returning.
Incidentally, I don't know if you've seen Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Collaboration of the fortnight. The first one was the Ashes, which is now on Wikipedia:Peer review before going to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Also, Sydney Riot of 1879 is current on the featured article candidates page. If you would like to lend your support or offer constructive comments, that would be welcome. The page for this is Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sydney Riot of 1879. The vote's on a real knife-edge at the moment - it has 75% support, but needs 80% to be certain. Keep up the good work. Kind regards, jguk 18:23, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
That's ok - have a good time. I won't be doing much editing on Monday though, so I'll have to leave the England v Australia Twenty20 to you! :) jguk 22:23, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Do you know the new Norwegian? nn:. I have just added a number of interwiki links and if you know nn, it would be nice to add one more to the list. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:45, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions. I have extended the surnames. Don't know what to do with the county matches. The most that I can do is lookup the scorecards and mention the major innings. Tintin 16:39, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'll be back helping out on 2005 English cricket season soon. Nice to see Surrey well on the way to the Twenty20 quarter-finals! And I've just started 2005 and 2005/6 Sri Lankan cricket season too:) jguk 28 June 2005 21:03 (UTC)
Have you got a write-up of this match, or are we still wanting one? Kind regards, jguk 2 July 2005 13:33 (UTC)
Could you add all your match reports that you've held in reserve, as it were, now? I'd like to get the season fully up to date this weekend, but don't want to duplicate your work. Thanks, jguk 8 July 2005 18:39 (UTC)
Good work on Irish cricket team. You should nominate it for Did you know, jguk 18:25, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
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I was watching the one day matches between England and Australia, the ones where they had Power Plays, and they also had another strange thing I have never heard of. They were using "Super Subs". What is a super sub? Wikipedia doesn't appear to have an article about it. By the way, can't wait till the ashes. Borb 15:33, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Could you clarify why you think that anyone would be specifically interested in Matthew 1:9 on its own? (rather than the Genealogy of Jesus as a whole) ~~~~ 17:07, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
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My email (and MSN id) is thagudearbh@yahoo.co.uk - feel free to page me if you see me there. I probably log into IRC more often though, jguk 09:34, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind welcome. I imagine my contributions will at first be limited to cleaning up typos, but part of the reason I joined was to help me learn and therefore eventually be able to contribute more - the Cricket portal seems to have more information on cricket than any single book I've found. I really got into the sport late last year and am still picking up its many, many peculiarities!
I also joined to help me get stuck into something - to a recent newcomer like myself, the English WP seems very well developed and therefore hard to contribute to - is there a page that offers good guidance to newcomers on how to get involved? I've grasped the basics (such as how to edit, NPOV etc.) but would definitely like to able to get stuck in more. Thanks! --High(Hopes) 11:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Haakon, I've just come back from this match - and what a strange match it was. Surrey first threw it away losing loads of wickets early on, and whilst Rampers helped a bit, Surrey were well behind a par score. A wicket first ball for Surrey, and with Surrey having a chance because of how overcast it was, the umpires started to have a mare. They should have come off after two and a bit overs because of rain - but stayed on, let Warwickshire lose a wicket - waited till 4.4 overs had passed, realised that it took 5 overs to make a match and they were being incredibly unfair to Warwickshire, and went off. Duckworth/Lewis, as you know, always favours the side in the lead when there is a break for rain - so Surrey benefited there. But Warwickshire hit back, eliminating almost all of the deficit quickly - but losing wickets in the process. Finally it got to the stage where the Bears needed three to win off the last ball. With Warwickshire eight wickets down, and Surrey having lost eight wickets in reaching their total, there was a long delay as the umpires were consulted and dithered over what would happen if Warwickshire scored two runs.
Ultimately, play recommenced. Warwickshire ran one run, at which point, surprisingly, one of their players looked as if he was celebrating, they then took the second, and stopped, knowing that to go for a third would have been suicidal (to say the least). Surrey celebrated. The tannoy announced the Surrey win. Tickets went on sale to Surrey members for the Semi-Finals/Final day and (with my folks already having their tickets from way ago - as they were optimistic) I queued for mine (as I was pessimistic at Surrey's chances of winning). As I was going downstairs from the pavilion to the ticket office, my folks were leaving the top bit of the pavilion, only to see the scorer, Mrs Booth, come out of her booth, announce to all "why have they announced a Surrey win, we're not ready yet!" and rush into the Ladies.
Having acquired my ticket (and three more in the expectation of selling them to mates) I returned to the pavilion for a slash - and there I heard over the tannoy that there was to be a bowl-off. Finishing my business, I rushed, with my folks to the bottom bit of the pavilion seating to see Warwickshire practising, and Surrey arguing with the none-too-popular umpires. Umpire Constant returned to the pavilion to consult Lord-knows-what, and returned. Mrs Booth at some stage joined them on the pitch. Finally it was later announced that the captains had agreed to a bowl-off (ie the umpires - who were now being booed whenever they came close to the crowd - had no idea whatsoever what to do when scores and wickets were tied on the Duckworth/Lewis).
I've never seen a bowl-off before (other than highlights on telly once), so this was my first (and I'll have to see how the piccis came out), but apparently five bowlers are selected from each side and they each bowl two balls overarm at unguarded stumps - with bowlers from each team alternating after each bowler had bowled his two balls. After all five bowlers from each side had bowled their two balls, it was two-all. Then came sudden death. One bowler (of the five originally selected) from one side bowled - and then another bowler from the other side. If the scores were uneven after that, we had a winner - a sort of cricketing penalty shoot-out. After the stumps had been hit only four times in twenty attempts first off, Warwickshire hit the stumps first off in the sudden death round. Azhar Mahmood thankfully equalised for Surrey. Warwickshire then missed, before Tim Murtagh hit, ran celebrating to the side of the pitch, took his shirt off, and was followed by celebrating team-mates.
An extraordinary match, with Surrey winning twice, two unpopular umpires, and many people missing the "match" for real, as they'd left after Surrey had first been announced as winners. Thankfully, after wondering whether my tickets were not so good a purchase after all, we won.
In short - you'd better write up the match (as I'd be a primary source), and I'll try to add some piccis. But one result I didn't expect was for Surrey to win 4-3! jguk 22:24, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Are the 2005 Ashes being covered in Wikipedia anywhere? Commander Keane 09:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Haakon
Please keep Category:Australian cricketers as complete as possible - these categories by nationality make it very easy to see if we have an article on any given cricketer, as long as they are complete. They pretty much were before you changed them! :) All the best, jguk 11:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
By having every Australian cricketer in Category:Australian cricketers we have a complete list of every Australian cricketer that we have an article on, which helps when searching for a cricketer. Also by checking it, it should help reduce the number of duplicate articles (currently we only have Andy Bichel and Andrew Bichel that need to be merged). Otherwise you'd be in the unenviable position of having to know that the cricketer you're searching for played for Western Australia, say. If you're not 100% sure, you'll end up also having to check the Queensland, South Australian, NSW, Victorian and Tasmanian cricketers too before working out that we have no article on that player.
Personally I'd get rid of the Australian bowlers, Australian batsmen, Australian all-rounders and Australian wicket-keepers categories - as I don't see a real need for them, but I know others disagree with me, jguk 06:48, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Whee! Quick work correcting my link on the Ken Rutherford article! I went to add an extra line I'd just thought of and got an edit conflict. (A cricket fan from Norway?) Grutness...wha? 11:07, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome, Sam.
I wanted to write back to you and tell you how much of a fan I am of Terry Pratchett! I absolutely love the City Watch characters, I just finished The Fifth Elephant and I'm about to start that one where he goes back in time... whatever it's called. Anyway, excellent choice for the username, there. T-mccool
Hi Sam, I'm sorry about not stating a source for the info about Andrew Symonds. The reason was that I couldn't find one on the internet. But I sure that I have heard it while watching cricket commentary given on TV by established cricket commentators. He is supposed to have an aboriginal descent. If you are still unsure, you may ask your other contacts on wikipedia cricket about it. That would help us both. Cheers
Ya I guess you are right. Its also true that Jason Giillespie has aboriginal descent. Good that you verified my claim. Keep contributing! Cheers!!!
You left a message on my talk re my moving a page. I have replied on Talk:New Zealanders in Zimbabwe in 2005. For the sake of continuity, can we discuss it there please. Cheers. Moriori 21:58, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
That was quick work - I mention it one night, 200 more or so added the next day. Plus Ian's just added all the Aussies in double-quick time! Must be my go to add some English Test cricketers tonight - maybe you can have a go tomorrow. Of course, there are 8 other lists of Test cricketers to come, a list of Supertest cricketers and lots of lists of ODI cricketers to go! jguk 19:41, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Sam, re your comment on my talk page: see discussion on the English list Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket. Regards - Ian ≡ talk 23:25, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi Haakon
Listening to the Test - quite a thriller (somewhat unfortunately as I'd rather we'd got another 150 runs, but there goes). And have you seen, just under 400 more English Test cricketers to write up now - I can see Ian beating us with his Aussie ones if I'm not careful, jguk 15:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I wasn't aware of that. I will try to find a picture without a copyright and use it. --Rehanyazdani 02:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Would a picture by Reuters be acceptable? --Rehanyazdani 02:44, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi Sam. Why don't the indivivual cricket matches covered in wikipedia have full scorecard to go with them? I admit they are of little interest to tha average person most of the time but sometimes they are very interesting. For example, the second ashes test that just finished, it is insteresting to look at australia's second innings scorecard and see jusr how many runs the tail enders managed compared to the 'better' batsmen. By the way, watching the last morning of that test match had me right on the edge of my seat. I couldn't believe it, it looked like australia were going to win again. Thrilling stuff. Borb 21:46, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
I can see no real benefit in putting the scorecards onto Wikisource. They are already a click away (sourced from cricinfo, cricketarchive, the BBC or whatever). Why do we need to keep them on a wikipage? jguk 06:52, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Seems like you may have a Canadian rival:) (see England v Australia 11-15 August 2005). The dangers of keeping your cricket reports hidden to the end of the match! jguk 06:18, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for filling up the stats. I had no idea how to do it. Tintin 15:15, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
Sam, Thanks for converting overs to balls. That must have taken ages! -- Ian ≡ talk 00:59, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Hello, Sam. I wasn't aware of this stub category so thanks for pointing it out as I will be adding quite a lot of cricketers in the 17th and 18th centuries. All the best. --Jack 18:39, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
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I was wondering about the length myself (which was the reason for asking the feedback). For the time being I'll go ahead and finish 1990s and 2000s, and then come back and edit the bloated stuff. Tintin 08:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Sam, can you please comment on the []. Edit it if you feel like it.
I'll slice some of the scores from 1970s, but it is too important a decade (and a nice one to write about !). There are four successive important series in the middle (two against India, one each against Aus and England) none of which can be ignored without writing a couple of sentences.
1960s, in my personal opinion, is fairly readable. Tintin 08:13, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... Thanks for creating the stub, I didn't realise I was creating a double redirect when I reverted the blankings, the page just kept reappearing on Special: Short pages as an empty page... :/ Usrnme h8er 08:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the invite. I'd be glad to lend a hand where I can so I've added my name to the list. It's good to know there's a group looking after these articles - I've got a few suggestions for restructuring but I'll post them on the project discussion rather than here! Hope my edits were useful/interesting. MattDP 08:36, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey. Thanks for the heads-up. --Ngb 19:23, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
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Hats off to the person from Norway who puts us 'test' members to shame with his awesome contributions to the sport of cricket. May he lead the Norwegian cricket team to World Cup Victory! =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:12, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
I've seen the fabulous work you do, particularly with regard to the greatest sport known to man and feel that you would make a good administrator. Let me know on my talk page if you would accept a nomination. 13:36, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
I didn't know your name was Haakon. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:52, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
What's with the pages on individual cricket games? I accept that they may be notable, but it looks like you're not even trying to write an encyclopedia article about them - they're not in article format, for starters, but even worse, the whole article is filled with opinion and POV. I'd have to take an axe to the thing to get it anything resembling neutral. Couldn't you do a better job on these? Ambi 14:37, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Commiserations, your grace - there is no rhyme nor reason to the RFA process sometimes. Give them a few months to see how the articles pan out: I'm sure the result will be different next time. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:37, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
but have you seen the last paragraph of this? jguk 19:03, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Sam_Vimes said: Yep, same here. Every morning now I see about 200 articles fixed up by you on top of my watchlist :D Great work!
I'm hoping that's not a bad thing - that I'm not overloading your recent changes watchlist..! Rather surprisingly, I'm finding this work kinda therepeutic at the same time..! Should I be worried?! Thank you. Bobo192|Edits 06:12, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
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