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Hello. I am non-seriously working on WP:BOTREQ#Creating archive page for added ITN items. I successfully got editor name, time, and edit summary, but I have been failing to get diffs of any page/edit. I tried to find the information regarding edit diffs in manual, and in this man page, but I am still failing. Do you know some other manpage, or how to get a diff? —usernamekiran (talk) 10:24, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
@Usernamekiran, I assume you're using pywikibot. Do you want something like page.revisions()? —Qwerfjkltalk 10:30, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
thanks. Yes, I'm using pywikibot. I had tried using page.revisions() but couldn't get it correctly. My code so far for getting the info is as following. I have also created another chunk for creating archive pages, it is working correctly. The only thing I'm stuck with is the diff text. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:51, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
import pywikibot
site = pywikibot.Site("en", "wikipedia")
source_page_title = "Template:In the news"
source_page = pywikibot.Page(site, source_page_title)
# Most recent edit to the source page
latest_revision = source_page.latest_revision
# Extract information from the latest revision
editor_name = latest_revision.user
edit_time = latest_revision.timestamp
edit_summary = latest_revision.comment
# Create the archive entry with username, timestamp, and edit s
archive_entry = f"Editor: {editor_name}, Timestamp: {edit_time}, Summary: {edit_summary}"
# Print
print(archive_entry)
I think it just clicked me. But I'm on mobile. I will let you know how it goes in a couple of hours. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:56, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
I tried multiple methods, I am getting bizarre outputs. I am also getting texts from irrelevant articles. I tested the script on the template:in the news, as well as on my userpage - same issues. I have been unable to get/load the diffs. can you get the diffs? —usernamekiran (talk) 13:18, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
When I tried to investigate the issue further, I got following error: pywikibot.exceptions.InconsistentTitleError: Query on [[en:User:Usernamekiran]] returned data on 'Yuri Petukhov (footballer)'
CRITICAL: Exiting due to uncaught exception InconsistentTitleError: Query on [[en:User:Usernamekiran]] returned data on 'Yuri Petukhov (footballer)' In the html output (of previous script), there was mention of "Yuri Aleksandrovich Petukhov" which is a redirect to "Yuri Petukhov (footballer)". These two articles are not mentioned, and were never mentioned in any previous version of my userpage. However KiranBOT had updated the category of "Yuri Aleksandrovich Petukhov", after that, the "Yuri Aleksandrovich Petukhov" page was moved to "Yuri Petukhov (footballer)" by some other editor. I still have no idea why texts of these articles were popping up in the output. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:30, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Peppercat is a website listing government ministers, and other key political leaders, from all over the world, taking data from Wikidata. More information
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describes actor of (predicate sense whose actor (an agent or a cause—basically the instigator of an action) is denoted by this sense)
describes undergoer of (predicate sense whose undergoer (a patient, a theme, or a recipient—basically a non-instigator of an action) is denoted by this sense)
Machine learning: We are migrating some tools that currently use ORES to the new Lift Wing (phab:T343731)
EntitySchemas: We are continuing the work around the new datatype to link to EntitySchemas in statements
Query Builder: We fixed some issues in the Query Builder language selector (phab:T344231)
We’re making the warning for anonymous editors more useful by letting them return to the page they came from after logging in (phab:T330550); we’re also working on showing those warnings in the first place in WikibaseLexeme (phab:T343979)
Wikibase REST API: We are working on the ability to remove a statement from a Property (phab:T342976) and get the labels of a Property (phab:T342977)
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ORES, the revision evaluation service, is now using a new open-source infrastructure on all wikis except for English Wikipedia and Wikidata. These two will follow this week. If you notice any unusual results from the Recent Changes filters that are related to ORES (for example, "Contribution quality predictions" and "User intent predictions"), please report them.
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All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 20 September. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks.
The Enterprise API is launching a new feature called "breaking news". Currently in BETA, this attempts to identify likely "newsworthy" topics as they are currently being written about in any Wikipedia. Your help is requested to improve the accuracy of its detection model, especially on smaller language editions, by recommending templates or identifiable editing patterns. See more information at the documentation page on MediaWiki or the FAQ on Meta.
You closed this CFD discussion on 9/7 as Rename but the category is now empty. So, I'm not sure how to proceed with this. Is the CFD bot going to rename this category> Thanks. LizRead!Talk! 01:35, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, I suppose either way the category is eligible for C1 deletion. I would assume the bot will still rename the category. —Qwerfjkltalk 06:14, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Working Hour September 15, 2023. We will learn how to use Zotero, the reference management software, and its browser plugin to automatically extract metadata for articles and convert them to a Wikidata format that can be batch uploaded using QuickStatements.More information on the event page
chronological designation (as a typical instance, the stated scholarly journal year to which reference is made by: the reference source being cited to support the statement being made)
We are planning the migration of some of our existing components from the Wikit to the Codex design system in Query Builder, Mismatch Finder and the Special:NewLexeme page.
Warnings about not being logged-in will now have a returnto= parameter attached to their links, so that you can don’t use your flow from logging in (phab:T330550)
We fixed an issue with the LanguageSwitcher in Query Builder where it would open out of the viewport on some tablet screen widths (phab:T344231)
Wikibase REST API: We finished the work on making it possible to remove a statement from a Property (phab:T342976) and getting the labels of a Property (phab:T342977)
Comment/question:
I did go to look at the edit and each of the citations that I added do have title tags on them. Unsure as to what specific link the bot is referencing however. Will be happy to amend if I can find the error.
Mystixa (talk) 11:09, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
@Mystixa, both of the references you added are missing |title=. They only have |url=, |website=, and |access-date=—Qwerfjkltalk 15:22, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
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MediaWiki now has a stable interface policy for frontend code that more clearly defines how we deprecate MediaWiki code and wiki-based code (e.g. gadgets and user scripts). Thank you to everyone who contributed to the content and discussions.
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 September. It will be on all wikis from 21 September (calendar).
Hello sir I have publish a page but wikipedia doesnt accept it --Devendra Dahal (talk) 16:07, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
@Devendra Dahal, please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. You cannot write an article about yourself. —Qwerfjkltalk 18:29, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Qwerfjkl,
are you up for some more bot work sometime? It seems to me that we could roll out the WP:PIQA assessments soon. For articles which are not in Category:Articles with conflicting quality ratings and have equal or blank class parameters defined in individual banners, we can do edits like this. Bear in mind that a few projects have chosen to opt-out of the global ratings so it will be necessary to track these templates and their redirects, and not to remove the class parameter from those. Thanks —Martin (MSGJ·talk) 13:21, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
@MSGJ, sure, I'm happy to do that. I'll start writing the code for that after I run T22 and T23. —Qwerfjkltalk 15:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi - I've noticed that Qwerfjkl (bot) has broken a couple redirects while fixing the links to episode list anchors - diffs can be found here and here. Tollens (talk) 02:31, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Here's another one - not sure if this is a huge deal as a one-time run but just want to make sure you're aware of the errors. Tollens (talk) 05:22, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
@Tollens, thanks. I wasn't aware that EpisodeNumber was used like that. I doubt too many pages were affected by it, however. —Qwerfjkltalk 13:49, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello Qwerfjkl,
Backlog update:
At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!
October backlog elimination drive:
A one-month backlog drive for October will start in one week! Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Articles will earn 4x as many points compared to redirects. You can sign up here.
PageTriage code upgrades:
Upgrades to the PageTriage code, initiated by the NPP open letter in 2022 and actioned by the WMF Moderator Tools Team in 2023, are ongoing. More information can be found here. As part of this work, the Special:NewPagesFeed now has a new version in beta! The update leaves the NewPagesFeed appearance and function mostly identical to the old one, but updates the underlying code, making it easier to maintain and helping make sure the extension is not decommissioned due to maintenance issues in the future. You can try out the new Special:NewPagesFeed here - it will replace the current version soon.
Notability tip:
Professors can meet WP:PROF #1 by having their academic papers be widely cited by their peers. When reviewing professor articles, it is a good idea to find their Google Scholar or Scopus profile and take a look at their h-index and number of citations. As a very rough rule of thumb, for most fields, articles on people with a h-index of twenty or more, a first-authored paper with more than a thousand citations, or multiple papers each with more than a hundred citations are likely to be kept at AfD.
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If you would like like a second opinion on your reviews or simply want another new page reviewer by your side when patrolling, we recommend pair reviewing! This is where two reviewers use Discord voice chat and screen sharing to communicate with each other while reviewing the same article simultaneously. This is a great way to learn and transfer knowledge.
I got a msg from Wiki that you are my mentor. Pls guide me on how to avoid being blocked, I'm unable to understand why I'm being blocked in the first place. Is there a better way to communicate than here? Jinrakshak (talk) 19:22, 18 September 2023 (UTC)Jinrakshak
My IP address is blocked. I don't understand why should we not copy text from other websites and give references? Thought that was more authentic? If you could undo your actions, then I can edit. Its been so long ago and I don't even know what this was about Jinrakshak (talk) 19:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
@Jinrakshak, because it violates copyright. It is okay to use a website as a source, but you can not simply copy text from another website. I hvae nothing to do with your IP address being blocked, but I don't see the problem if you can edit from this account. —Qwerfjkltalk 20:06, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
But that website doesn't have copyright Jinrakshak (talk) 22:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
@Jinrakshak, I don't know which website it is. But by default everything is copyrighted. —Qwerfjkltalk 06:51, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
What is the meaning of source that that should be linked after edit?? If not it's reverted! Why? --Greenvillette (talk) 06:46, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
@Greenvillette, I'm unaware of what you're referring to, but see WP:Citation needed. —Qwerfjkltalk 06:53, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Maybe relisting would be better? Not many folks commented, but weren't there two opinions in oppose to just one support? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
@Piotrus, at CfD discussions are rarely if ever relisted 3 times. Also, I factored the discussion directly above it in my close, which was discussing the same topic and had broader participation (I closed it as no consensus as well). Finally, of course, I determine consensus based on the strength of arguments rather than their number, so that there was a numeric majority supporting doesn't matter (that much). —Qwerfjkltalk 07:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello , I want to write an article about Real Rider Malta; our motorcycle club history. Is it possible? --Malta rider (talk) 09:17, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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We worked on making it possible to upload mismatches on qualifiers (phab:T313467)
We are continuing to migrate tools from ORES to Lift Wing (phab:T343731)
We've added Wikifunktions as a new wiki for sitelinks (phab:T342857)
Wikibase REST API: We are working on making it possible to get labels, descriptions and aliases from a Property as well as modify the description of an Item
Hi I am a huge fan of Johnny Depp. I have been commenting on fb and I get fake Johnny mightve gotten into contact with him but not sure i am looking for the right Johnny depp didn't want to say the wrong thing to Johnny if the real one really texted me. Trying to get to the bottom of this and only want to talk to Johnny and not the fakes like the imposters. Need help. --Nana Shae (talk) 22:53, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not the place for this. —Qwerfjkltalk 06:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. LizRead!Talk! 16:33, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. LizRead!Talk! 16:34, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, I thought it came under a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion but if I'm mistaken, feel free to delete it now per G7. —Qwerfjkltalk 17:07, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Obviously this goes for both categories. —Qwerfjkltalk 17:08, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, it is my first time contributing to wikipedia. I did that by adding a new language (italian) to an already existing page. It was online for several minutes but now it is under revision. Is there something that i have to do to facilitate its publication? --WormwoodMatilda (talk) 16:01, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
@WormwoodMatilda, as far as I can discern, the issue was that you used automatic translation to Italian, which is not permitted. You need to be a fluent speaker of Italian. That said, I don't speak Italian, so you maky have better luck asking on w:it:Discussioni utente:Mastrocom. —Qwerfjkltalk 19:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
I am a fluent italian speaker and I checked the text also with some other native friends. Therefore, I believe that there is no issue about the translation quality. I have already wrote to mastrocom. Is there any other thing which I can do in case I do not recieve any reply from her part? WormwoodMatilda (talk) 19:52, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
@WormwoodMatilda, there isn't much more I can help you with. The Italian Wikipedia community has different rules from the English one, so you'd do better to inquire over there. —Qwerfjkltalk 20:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your information and help. WormwoodMatilda (talk) 20:19, 26 September 2023 (UTC)