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I'd say the uncleared land around Pinaroo and Craigie open space would be very similar to what was in heathridge. Gnangarra 15:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Heathridge's vegetation belongs to the "Cottesloe Complex". The Atlas goes into detail about the Complex's sandplain vegetation composition, but only makes passing mention of "closed-heath on the limestone outcrops". I don't mind digging around for specific composition if/when its important enough to warrant the effort i.e. FAC. Until then, rest assured that all Australian heath (other than our alpine heath) is Proteaceae and Myrtaceae with a bit of Fabales thrown in.
I think you've got a reasonable narrative there: it was called "Heathridge" because it is/has a ridge of limestone vegetated with a closed heath. Hesperian 04:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you put the images back into a gallery style. This is not a preferred option apparently, I am working on putting them into an actual table. I think the image how-to is where I read, not to use the gallery tags. Garrie 05:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi again, you don't think that him knowing Hurley personally is significant? I didn't include his comments about bashing police up to that point for your exact reason even though it was significant (ie controversial) news at the time. But the fact that he seems to be the first person to provide an independent account of the (police)man himself seemed to me to be significant, particularly as it was an aboriginal activist saying Hurley was not a racist. WikiTownsvillian 22:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I realise if I had no other there I could have bored you silly for hours re some our previous email conversations and others - maybe we meet up at SRO/Battye on a free day once youre at uni? Anyways it was good meeting you ! SatuSuro 07:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
blank the link blank the link (bit like put the cat out, put the cat out )- cripes if the wrong hands got onto that one, we'd need more than a few pints at the next meetup! SatuSuro 14:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC) link the blanks blank the link (keep the leopard in, watch the wallabies while theyre loose goose SatuSuro 04:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Orderinchaos, thank you for the offer, I was more looking to set up a North Queensland Stub template to put on North Queensland related stubs, the reason I went for North Queensland is because it's boarders are easier to define in two words, however Townsville seems to need an explanatory note wherever it goes (there would not be room for that on a stub notice). I'm not sure if a separate North Queensland Wikiproject would generate interest from anyone other than current members of the Townsville Wikiproject and that doesn't have people knocking down our door to get in... I don't have much preference between a Townsville or North Queensland Wikiproject, but I don't think having both of them would be of benefit and I'm happy with it as it is until it gets more interest and we can spread to the whole of North Queensland, maybe if you post the same message to the project's talk page others will have a different opinion. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 09:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm in need of help from an experienced editor on Wikipedia. Would you kindly accept me as one of your adoptees? Balikem 06:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC) |would you please be my adopter? Moondisaster 12:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)|
The article has already been put up for speedy and contested by someone other than the author which is why it now has a prod. The prod tag was placed on the 2nd and expires on the 7th. The only reason to remove the prod would be if you are contesting it. Nuttah68 17:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Why does one person who only has a few sentences about her receive so much animosity from a few bitter individuals? And why are there so many references on the page about her when other pages don't require any?
If you take a look at the history of the edits on the Stephanie Adams page, you will see that User Sean D Martin and now User LexiLynn are making personal attacks against other editors and even the person the article is about.
If they feel so horribly about someone they do not even know (including Stephanie Adams), then perhaps they should refrain from editing the page about her, removing important information added to the already small article.
And if they cannot write objectively, or if they cannot refrain from bad etiquette on Wikipedia, then maybe you should block or ban them from editing.
Please note that User Sean D Martin is involved in a smaller lawsuit Stephanie Adams filed against his friend, making him have a direct conflict of interest and should not be editing the article on her.
Cle0patr4 08:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
P.S. From what I did manage to read, it sounds like Jim Wales spoke to her (or someone who knows her) once before and resolved a matter quite similar. I doubt this lady is a bad person and it's a shame others seem to be so jealous/hateful of her.
The P&G guys are worth contacting think I met them up at Lulfitz nursery in December, if its the same guys they'll be right into the erradication and will have documentation that can be used as a source. It'll be either a trail area or CoS policy for all affected reserves this be written some where. Gnangarra 13:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I placed the review for review at Wikipedia:Good_article_review#Cullacabardee,_Western_Australia as images arent a requirement for GA. This is why GA is still not accepted as a stage in the rating scale as the people reviewing dont follow the criteria properly, I tend not to waste my time with articles going there anymore. Gnangarra 03:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Saw your comment on hesps talk page and went there straight away - looks like theres a problem - did my bit... hope it calms down. When in doubt - try to encouyrage them to ask an admin to blank the offending page - and try to reassure...SatuSuro 13:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I have already slapped a speedy delete on it. Hopefully the admin will track down all the associated images and remove the noncompliant. I hope I did this correctly. Hamersley is looking really good, btw. Best regards, Fred 02:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC) e. re. this Fred
I noticed you are asking for reviews from outside as to the Hammersely article. I'd recommend User:Worldtraveller, Hesperian and myself have had disagreements with him at GA criteria and its interpretation, yet he'd give you a totally honest and independant review of where the article is at. Gnangarra 02:52, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Didn't notice any issues in talk pages, however I feel that those blocks would be best there until they decide what to do. That means they can better identify and cleanup these pages in full when they go to remove it (as it may allow them to see harmonisation issues with article formats and such). thewinchester 02:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Template is much better now; thanks. Hesperian 10:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
you should add {{User 9 000e}} to your user page, I also think an earlier discussion to wait for Hammersely is now obsolete. Think maybe your cupboard needs to include some new equipment. Gnangarra 12:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, as mentioned at the project page these GIF's are probably the originals from which the JPG's used at Cooks River were created. I don't know the policies for image deletion but I am guessing, a pretty crappy JPG can be kept as long as it is used in an article. And a high quality, high resolution (high file size, bandwidth consuming) bitmap, will be deleted as soon as someone turns it into a crappy, lossy jpg and links the jpg in place of the bitmap.
Geography section looks fine. I gave it a light copyedit, creating a number of red links in the process. I'll take responsibility for blueing them (and I haven't forgotten about the Karrakatta Sand red link at Hamersley). I'll also have a look at what the Atlas of Natural Resources says some time this week. Hesperian 23:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I have family that would not cope with me doing that - but brilliant time for the west edit! I bet not a single pesky australian vandal in sight at that time! :) SatuSuro 22:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
yes please any help would be great like i said before i done what i was asked to do and i got told off by WikiTownsvillian, it was all going well until yesterday. thank you for your offer. Thuringowacityrep 23:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
It might be of assistance to look at the original dispute resolution page Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/December 2006/Thuringowacityrep WikiTownsvillian 00:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
hi i just done a large clean up as did another editer would you be able to have a look at it now and tell me your views on the the page and what you feel may need changing or removing plus if you can have a look at the edits i have done on the pages relating to the Townsville/Thuringowa Vs Townsville and Thuringowa dispute, i have also asked WikiTownsvillian to look over the Thuringowa page and let me know his thoughts thanks again Thuringowacityrep 02:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
hi thanks for your idea but the problem is that this info about the Hospital location came from the Thuringowa Mayor when i was talking with him, he has no plans to have a hospital built anytime soon (as it says) and when he feels that there is a need he will contact the people he needs to, so he has never said anything about this to the media or the public i'm the only one that knows, so can you tell me of a way that this info can stay as i feel that it is important and it is a fact. thanks Thuringowacityrep 07:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
The dispute is on most articles that are related to either Thuringowa or Townsville, the best examples would be to read the arbitration section of TCR's usertalk. He made edits on February 8 to the following articles:
edit 1 -Townsville, Queensland
edit 2 -Shopping in Townsville
edit 3 -List of schools in Townsville, Queensland
edit 4 (the first) -Media in Townsville
edit 4 (the second) -List of medical facilities in Townsville
edit 5 -Electoral district of Mundingburra
edit 6 -Electoral district of Thuringowa
edit 7 -Electoral district of Townsville
I then commented on each of the edits at; User_talk:Thuringowacityrep#Response_to_edits and TCR responded to my responses.
TCR then edited Townsville Bulletin on 13 February claiming that it was part of this process. I would have the same objections to that edit as I had to his edits at Media in Townsville. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 07:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for helping me out yesterday! I am thinking a lot more clearly about some things I think, just take it as it comes, you know. And thanks too for showing me around the library, hopefully I can get some red links cleared up now :) Dont forget to do those two councils ... I am so going to hassle Nungarin about not having a web page next time I am there. LOL DanielT5 01:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I've unlinked the Karrakatta Sand and Bassendean Sand links at Hamersley and Cullacabardee]]. As you know I've been working on biogeographic regions. Have done Esperance Plains, Mallee and Warren. Will do Avon Wheatbelt and Jarrah Forest next. Then a rewrite of Swan Coastal Plain. At that point I'll tackle soils of the Swan Coastal Plain, and only then will I be in a position to decide whether Karrakatta Sand should link to Karrakatta Sand, Soils of the Swan Coastal Plain, Swan Coastal Plain#Karrakatta Sand, Swan Coastal Plain#Soils, or what. That could be a month or so away, and I don't want to hold up any FA/GA plans in the interim, so I've unlinked them for now.
Hesperian 07:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
The first is certainly a species on Eucalyptus - probably something obvious like Jarrah or Tuart, but I'm no expert and can't say right now. I will have a look in a book tonight and see what I can do. The second is definitely a coastal wattle (Acacia) - probably Acacia xanthina, but I'm not confident enough to use it as an image at that article. The third is typical jarrah-banksia woodland, one of the most common vegetation types on the Swan Coastal Plain. The fourth is almost certainly Banksia prionotes (Acorn Banksia); it is one of the Crocinae at any rate; and yes we'd be happy to take it (and the fifth) for the Banksia project. Hesperian 23:11, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I was just looking for some help on the shires and the infobox thingies... I got some info on Bonnie Rock (Mukinbudin) from the library down here DanielT5 09:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey the Nungarin stuff arrived today :) I don't know how much is usable though, it is just a tourist brochure... but has some info ... and the shire logo of course DanielT5 09:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks alot for the pointer, and the article does look alot neater/nicer without the reference marks - im just not sure where to find any more references from - there are limited texts on the subject, and i have exhausted EVERY primary source available, ive even done a google search and gone through about 30-40 pages of links. Any ideas? btw, thanks for all the help Smbarnzy 10:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Your Wikipedia name is perfect for the Stephanie Adams discussion, or should I say, hate campaign. User Sean Martin in particular keeps committing sneaky vandalism by removing facts in the article pertaining to a lawsuit Adams filed, separate from the lawsuit she filed against his friend James Poling. I'm not saying you should ban him from Wikipedia, but his personal interest in distorting this article, and defaming the person the article is about, is reason alone to ask him to refrain from editing this article. In addition, LexiLynn should be warned to stop making personal attacks about the person in the article. If she has that much bitterness towards someone she does not even know, and is clearly jealous of, then she should find another discussion to frequent. I thought Wikipedia was about objectivity, not personal attacks and hate campaigns. 72.89.106.24 02:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Orderinchaos, just for your info I think I've just landed myself in another dispute at the Talk:2004 Palm Island death in custody page. I have created a Mulrunji article to try to resolve the issue however I don't think this has been successful. I think me and my hot headedness might have made matters worse here :-/
Just a heads up as you've been involved in this issue previously. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 14:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Orderinchaos78, could you please help out at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Cultural_Sensitivity_vs_Accuracy.2FClarity. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 13:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the RfC clarification. Wasn't certain I had that right. Trying hard to proceed appropriately (nose clean, as you say), despite (sigh) continual provocation.--Sean Martin 11:16, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm out of here for a day or so (the real world is calling :). If you need to get in contact with me regarding anything I'm handling, leave a message and expect a response after my return. Thank you. --Orderinchaos78 14:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your additions and edits to the Mount Barker, Western Australia page. I'm wondering if the changes you made to the population stats were from the 2001 census? There has been a significant change in the population in recent years as families leave farms but "city-folk" move to the township. The original stats I'd posted (~1500 town, ~4600 region) were from the shire webpage.--AndrewD MBarker 15:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hows that for a subject/headline. Regarding your comment, I concur. I hope that was clear from my rambling comment. Lets catch up soon. Best regards - Fred 04:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that - having just found two parallel universes in a day or so - that was one - they creep through the fabric - and suddenly there is a heriarchy of arts/templates and things that have never been exposed to the cruel light of west oz editors and their swords of wisdom and their words of stone (ummm, err...) :) SatuSuro 14:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
hi no mate WikiTownsvillian seems to have gone all out to point them out i added some notes on the page but i will add one more thing WikiTownsvillian states: A3. Townsville, Queensland (7 January)
what is wrong with this, the Greek Fest is at the new Thuringowa Riverway, Thuringowa i hate to say it but it is starting to look petty, so i will leave it all up to you thank you again for taking the time to help work this out. Thuringowacityrep 05:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Reply to WikiTownsvillian - no worries i was just viewing my thoughts plus i'm not taking it personally i was just shocked that you put that edit in.
Reply to Orderinchaos78 - its cool... thanks Thuringowacityrep 05:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Having just done a defendable new art on csnf (no speedy d's there thank god) I have started inserting reality into the two arts mentioned. would appreciate a once over or feedback if poss - ta, cheers SatuSuro 06:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I havent finished reviewing the article yet but I was ruthless with the Early HIstory bit. The reason for this is that even the last sentence acknowledged (after 3 paragraphs) that no development had really occurred, what's more important was the development after 1967, so I cut and pasted that section to User:Orderinchaos78/Hamersley stuff. Locations K and 1315, I looked up the area they cover in the Streetsmart and thats a huge chunk of land! What I think you should do given you're in the mood for writing FAs and you've got all that stuff there, is to write a History of the Northern Suburbs of Perth (I dunno something like this?) and do the lot. Hope this is OK. Oh yeah, and I referenced the Aboriginals and put in a bit of colonial info from the book you cited, C. library had it DanielT5 11:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
ask a favour of you? I am happy to ask someone else if you would prefer or are busy. - Fred 12:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC) Cheers. I bet you are a good multitasker. Email in 5 minutes. - Fred 13:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC) Done. Cheers - Fred 13:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Orderinchaos, soldier settlement schemes directly influenced every state of Australia and have a direct link to irrigation commencement etc. These schemes opened up vast quantities of (amongst other places) Western Australia. Until today there was no article on Wiki covering the topic. I have started it and have also suggested it to be a WP:ACOTF article - would welcome your support if you think that such an article is appropriate for a collaboration project? --VS talk...images 02:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I dropped a welcome note on the editors talk page will keep an eye what happens from here, Enjoy your break Gnangarra 15:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
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