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Community ban discussions must now stay open for at least 24 hours prior to being closed.
A change to the administrator inactivity policy has been proposed. Under the proposal, if an administrator has not used their admin tools for a period of five years and is subsequently desysopped for inactivity, the administrator would have to file a new RfA in order to regain the tools.
A change to the banning policy has been proposed which would specify conditions under which a repeat sockmaster may be considered de facto banned, reducing the need to start a community ban discussion for these users.
Technical news
CheckUsers are now able to view private data such as IP addresses from the edit filter log, e.g. when the filter prevents a user from creating an account. Previously, this information was unavailable to CheckUsers because access to it could not be logged.
The edit filter has a new featurecontains_all that edit filter managers may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string.
Bhadani (Gangadhar Bhadani) passed away on 8 February 2018. Bhadani joined Wikipedia in March 2005 and became an administrator in September 2005. While he was active, Bhadani was regarded as one of the most prolific Wikipedians from India.
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On Special:AbuseLog you can now choose to list only actions that actually made an edit. Other actions are when the filter warned the editor or blocked the edit from being made. There are also more search options.
Wikis can enable Citoid to provide automatic reference look-up in the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor, but it is complex. The tool will now warn in the JavaScript console if the configuration isn't correct. Soon Citoid will disable itself if the configuration isn't correct. Check that your wiki is configured correctly. You can ask for help if you need it.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 March. It will be on all wikis from 8 March (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 March at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
In the future you will be able to use global preferences. This means you could change a preference for all wikis instead of having to change it every time for each wiki. You can now test global preferences and give feedback.
Hi. Long time. I hope all is well with you. I am aware findagrave is not reliable source. But on this page, there is a link to the photo of a grave-stone. I was wondering if we could use it as source for subject's middle name? I couldn't find any other source mentioning his middle name. I mean, no matter which website it is, the accuracy of the grave-stone on the middle name cant be disputed, right? What are your thoughts? TPS are welcome to join as well. Also pinging Ritchie333 —usernamekiran(talk) 08:21, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
I generally err on the side of respecting privacy. If the subject's middle name is not well-known, or documented in generally acceptable sources, there's usually a reason for it and we should err on the side of not including it. I had a similar problem with Tony Stratton Smith - I can't find a source for his date of birth anywhere, only the year, although there must be public records of it somewhere. I see an IP has since added it without a source and it has propagated all over the internet onto mirrors, making online fact checking near impossible. Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 10:18, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: hmm. You are right. We shouldn't invade his privacy. Also, is legacy.com a reliable source (only for DOB, and DOD)? —usernamekiran(talk) 05:23, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
@Usernamekiran: I'd say "probably not" on legacy.com. It appears to be a database of obituaries, and you can typically find obituaries in more reliable publications, such as newspapers or a library database. My thoughts on including dates of birth and full names align with Ritchie333's; I also tend to err on the side of privacy and only publish such information if it is clearly reported in a highly visible reliable source (on the basis that Wikipedia is a highly visible reliable source, so we wouldn't be drawing undue attention to obscure personal information). Mz7 (talk) 08:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
I can understand what you guys are saying. But the problem is, I've been creating articles on military/intel persons. And these guys are not exactly "famous", nor have coverage like film actors or some attention seeking persons. So finding their exact DOB/DOD is sort of difficult. The official/govt sources mention only the years. Like this source from airforce, which says "General Martin was born in Fairforest, S.C., in 1927.", and not the exact date. As they are (mostly "were") govt uniformed officials, keeping precise details discreet is "suggested". But in case they have passed away, I think it is okay to include exact dates if some reliable source already has it published. —usernamekiran(talk) 09:11, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
I think the official Air Force website is fine to use a source to include the birth/death date. The most relevant policy regarding privacy for this kind of information is WP:BLPPRIVACY, which applies primarily to living people only, but I think the spirit of the policy also asks we consider privacy for the family of the deceased who may be still living. I suppose common sense is the best approach in cases like this. Mz7 (talk) 10:07, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Feathers: The Evolution of a Natural Miracle you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:01, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
3D models can now be uploaded to Commons.
Page Previews has been updated to use HTML for previews. This has fixed many issues. An A/B test was done on English and German Wikipedia to measure how it is used. Other changes were also made.
Some edits have to be checked against too many conditions before they can trigger an abuse filter. If that is the reason no filter is triggered the edit will be tagged for review.
Auto-saving has been added to the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. Right now it is meant to help if your browser crashes or if you accidentally close a tab.
Problems
The abuse filter did not tag all edits that should have been tagged after last week's MediaWiki version had come to the wikis. It was fixed on 9 March (UTC).
Changes later this week
You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. This was originally planned to happen last week.
It is now possible to specify the block parameters for each filter in Special:AbuseFilter. The parameters include block duration and if the user should be blocked from editing their own talk page. The block duration is separate for anonymous and registered users.
A hundred Wikimedia wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 13 and 14 March. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 March. It will be on all wikis from 15 March (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 March at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Done. Thanks for drawing my attention to that. It's somewhat bizarre how the article is suddenly receiving a lot of attention today. Mz7 (talk) 23:06, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes you are right. Sorry!–Kiwipat (talk) 05:17, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I would like to student of your academy? For right use of Anti-Vandalism. Thank You, Siddiqsazzad001(TALK) 13:08, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
@Siddiqsazzad001: Sure. I've created your page at User:Mz7/CVUA/Siddiqsazzad001. Please take a look and answer the preliminary questions. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Mz7 (talk) 20:00, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
@Mz7: Why you respond so late? To feedback at CVUA. Siddiqsazzad001(TALK) 14:53, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
@Siddiqsazzad001: It was already really late at night when I gave my feedback last night, so I only had time for a few quick edits before going to sleep. (I just woke up.) I’ll post your next assignment soon. Mz7 (talk) 20:18, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
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Problems
On March 12 early morning UTC, the number of 503 error messages increased due to an issue on esams datacenter. It has been fixed.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 March. It will be on all wikis from 22 March (calendar).
Meetings
There is no Editing team meeting this week.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
From April 4, the autopatrol status of edits will only be accessible in the Recent Changes database table, so only for 30 days.
In-Context Help and Onboarding is a new project, aiming to improve retention of new wiki editors. The goal is to give them short tutorials and other training experiences based on their activity. Collaboration team is expecting feedback and comments on the project talk page, especially from people working with newcomers.
@Hurricane Seth: I can see the draft possibly surviving if we move it to mainspace today, though I do also see the ongoing opposition from AlexTheWhovian on the talk page. Ultimately, I'm not sure. I think that the subject is noteworthy enough that an article about the season is probably going to be justified. We do now have episode names, a release date, and a more detailed cast list, which is an improvement over what we had in January, but that information is already presented in the main article for Fear the Walking Dead. Mz7 (talk) 06:47, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@Mz7: Thanks for the reply. Honestly, I see where both you and AlexTheWhovian are coming from. I just think it's inevitable that the article will be created, as seasons 1–3 of Fear the Walking Dead and seasons 1–8 of The Walking Dead all have main articles. It's also easier to just view the season 4 article, where you can see the entire cast, the episode names, and production details. Whereas, you would have to view two articles (the main Fear article for the cast and production and what not and the list of episodes article to view the episodes). — Hurricane Seth (talk) 09:02, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@Mz7: You never gave me a definite answer about reviewing the edit. Do you think it's good enough to be created as an actual article? Hurricane Seth (talk) 23:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for blocking this IP address. Just thought I'd let you know (if you don't already know) that this IP address has a fairly long history of vandalism and two prior blocks. Looking at the edit summaries from this IP address, it's pretty clear that this is the same person who was blocked previously and I don't think that collateral damage is going to be an issue here. In that light, I would have figured that a longer block duration would be in order (anywhere from 1 to 3 months, give or take), and that they'll just come back soon after the short 31 hour block expires. Regards. 24.205.75.247 (talk) 04:23, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I see where you're coming from. Based on the past entries in the block log and the puerile nature of almost all of the edits from the IP, I've gone ahead and increased the block duration to 3 months. Mz7 (talk) 06:35, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
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hello sir, sorry to bother you but i would appreciate it so much if i could have a word with you online, like on insta or twitter or other for a couple of minutes, i would extremely appreciate it!, and it would mean alot for me if you did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arabos (talk • contribs) 02:05, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Arabos: Sorry, but I would prefer to have the conversation here on this talk page. If it needs to be private, you can also email me using Special:EmailUser/Mz7. Mz7 (talk) 02:16, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
ok, but you don't have any online site/app for quick chatting? like insta, twitter, messenger, telegram etc.
if you have and you don't want to give out your user, pick any of the social media apps and i will give you my user and you can send me a message :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arabos (talk • contribs) 02:44, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
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Changes later this week
Some of the interface icons and text sizes will change slightly, as part of the updates for improved accessibility and consistency. These icons are used in many features, including Notifications, Recent Changes, Beta Features, Visual Editor, 2017 Wikitext Editor, Code Editor, and others. While editor toolbars, dialogs, and menus will appear slightly bigger; elements on special pages will be slightly smaller. Functionality will not change.
The deprecated #toc and #toctitle CSS ids have been removed. If your wiki was still using these for fake Tables of Content (ToC) then these might lose their styling. They can be replaced with .toc and .toctitle classes where appropriate.
TemplateStyles will be deployed to the Wikivoyages on 28 March 2018.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 March. It will be on all wikis from 29 March (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 March at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be one hour earlier than usual on 28 March at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
From 9 April, the sort order of categories will be distorted for a short time. We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a maintenance script to update existing database entries. This will last anywhere from a few hours to a few days, depending on wiki size. Read more details.
Changes are coming to search for Serbian projects. Cyrillic and Latin variants of a word and different grammatical forms of a word will be able to find each other. Read more on MediaWiki in Serbian or English.
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You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 07:20, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
@Cahk:Done. Thanks for the tip, Mz7 (talk) 07:22, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello Mz7, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
ACTRIAL:
ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.
Paid editing
Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.
Subject-specific notability guidelines
The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
While patrolling articles, if you find an editor that is particularly competent at creating quality new articles, and that user has created more than 25 articles (rather than stubs), consider nominating them for the 'Autopatrolled' user right HERE.
News
The next issue Wikipedia's newspaper The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it, including ACTRIAL wrap-up that will be of special interest to New Page Reviewers. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. The Signpost is one of the best ways to stay up date with news and new developments - please consider subscribing to it. All editors of Wikipedia and associated projects are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the The Signpost's editorial team for the next issue.
Please give me a prime example SansUT (talk) 00:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
@SansUT: In the case of your AfD, this was the edit you needed to make in order to avoid the issue with the bot. Mz7 (talk) 00:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Got it. Thanks for informing me. SansUT (talk) 00:42, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thank you for assisting in stopping a persistent disruptive editor by implementing a range block. Evaluating the situation and discussing the best response is often an important process for admins. Also, thank you for making yourself available on IRC and ready to step in. Mkdwtalk 22:35, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Hey, Mz7. Regarding this, do you mind clarifying what you meant? I noted here that inline citations typically going after punctuation like commas or periods (as also noted at WP:REFPUNCT) doesn't mean that punctuation needs to be where it doesn't belong. WP:INTEGRITY is also something to keep in mind. And WP:CITEFOOT notes WP:INTEGRITY.
On a side note: Since I'm still watching your talk page, there's no need to ping me to it. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Flyer22. I'm happy to clarify. I don't think I've introduced new punctuation where it doesn't belong here; I've simply shifted the Rotten Tomatoes citation to the end of the sentence after the period. It's simply out-of-style for a citation not to follow punctuation, as it disrupts the flow of the sentence for the reader. WP:CITEFOOT does note that if a word or phrase is particularly contentious, then the citation can go directly next to that word, but I don't think this case is particularly contentious. I can somewhat see where you're coming from regarding WP:INTEGRITY – it may be possible that a reader could be misled to think the Rotten Tomatoes score and the Metacritic score are both supported by both citations – however, I think a common sense reading of the article on the part of the reader makes this a non-issue. It's clear from the context which citation supports which piece of information. Mz7 (talk) 01:14, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining. I wasn't stating that you introduced new punctuation; I was simply stating that punctuation does not need to exist for a reference to go after a word. What WP:REFPUNCT and CITEFOOT are stating is that we typically should not have a punctuation come after a reference when punctuation exists, but it seems to me you have interpreted this strictly. For the sentence in question, for example, the period comes at the end of the sentence. The thing that editors should worry about for that sentence is to not have a reference placed directly before the comma or the period to come directly after a reference. It doesn't mean that a reference shouldn't go after a part it directly supports. So the following would be incorrect: "achieving ratings of 47% and 4.5/10[146][147], respectively." So would this: "achieving ratings of 47% and 4.5/10, respectively[146][147]." But I don't see that this next piece (what you changed) was incorrect: "achieving ratings of 47%[146] and 4.5/10, respectively.[147]" I'm not too bothered by the edit you made. Looks-wise, I prefer the references to be like that as well. It's your rationale that I questioned. Maybe it's something we should ask about at the WP:Manual of Style talk page. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 18:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
@Flyer22 Reborn: Ah, I see. That's really interesting – I can see how my interpretation of the guideline may be too strict. Thanks for pointing that out. I've noticed that generally citations only follow punctuation in articles with few exceptions, which what I thought the guideline was referring to. However, after reflecting on your comments, your interpretation of the guideline may be more correct than mine. Mz7 (talk) 19:04, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.
Arbitration
The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.
Miscellaneous
A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.
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Recent changes
Template Wizard script available for testing. It will show up as a puzzle-piece icon in the 2010 WikiEditor. You can click on the icon to insert a template.
The Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey is to be sent to participants around the world this week. If you are volunteer developer, and have contributed code to any pieces of MediaWiki, gadgets, or tools, please take 20 to 40 minutes to complete the survey.
Problems
MediaWiki deployment train has been rolled back to version 1.31.0-wmf.26 on week 13, due to a multiplication of lost connections during MySQL queries. Some of the recent changes may have not been applied. They will be deployed next week.
The Notifications badge icons were overlapping other links. This has been fixed.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 April. It will be on all wikis from 5 April (calendar).
User subpages ending in .json will now be protected from other people editing them, like .js and .css pages already are. If you have a tool that stores static configuration, you can now use a subpage like User:Example/mygadget.json to do this without concerns.
Tidy will be replaced by RemexHtml on the next set of wikis. On April 4, we plan to turn off Tidy on all Wikiquotes (except frwikiquote) and Wikimedia chapters and user groups wikis. 23 wikis will have Tidy replaced this time.
AbuseFilter will transition to use OOUI starting April 4, and the rule editor will also be changed to a CodeEditor (ACE) similar to what is found on user JavaScript pages. The move to OOUI will continue over the next few weeks.
In Special:Preferences, the preference "Reload the watchlist automatically whenever a filter is changed (JavaScript required)" is now only visible for users who have opt-out the New Filters for the Watchlist.
You can see names of individual abuse filters in Special:AbuseLog. Now if the name of an abuse filter contains some wikisyntax like links, it will not change to a link when displayed.
You can now search through filter patterns at Special:AbuseFilter. You may specify either a plain string or a regular expression and the matching filters will show a snippet of their pattern with the match highlighted.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
If you're using, creating or improving Lua modules, you can give your feedback to help harmonizing the modules across wikis and add more useful functions.
On April 11th, we plan to turn off Tidy on all wikis with less than 50 entries in all high priority linter categories. About 60 wikis will have Tidy replaced. Currently about 600 wikis have had Tidy replaced and we have another 300 wikis to go. We plan to finish this transition from Tidy to RemexHtml by end of June 2018. Please follow T175706 to monitor progress of Tidy replacement.
I have no idea what happened with this report that you removed as 11 months stale. If I screwed up, sorry, but it seems unlikely. I think the DB must have lost some edits since I don't see my undo on Sutherland Secondary School that led to the report, and I do remember making one. Since there are no edits showing on that article for the last 4 months I would not have seen the article or the editor on my recent changes patrol if the history were correct.. No biggie. I'll check the history in a few days just for my peace of mind. Meters (talk) 05:17, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
@Pkbwcgs:Done, thanks. Mz7 (talk) 10:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Was not smart for a moment: changed the block reason without actually changing the block setting. Now actually Done. Mz7 (talk) 10:21, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi. You blocked this user this morning. Just wanted to ask if you could tell me which other accounts they used? Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 12:31, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Green Giant. The block was first and foremost for its harassment of Acroterion. Before blocking, I took a cursory look through the revision history of Acroterion's user talk page, and I could see a pattern of similar harassment, which is why the block reason says "abusing multiple accounts". Here are a few accounts that recently harassed Acroterion with similar language:
That being said, Acroterion is an administrator who I'm sure could have attracted the ire of multiple different sockmasters, so it is not immediately clear whether these are all one person or more. Just scroll through the revision history, and I'm positive you can find more instances, including some IPs. Mz7 (talk) 15:54, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Cheers, I’ll do that. Green Giant (talk) 17:08, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 07:03, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello there! Have you received further input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television? It's been a week and I was wondering if you'd gathered enough input to approve or decline the FTWD article? thanks. — Hurricane Seth (talk) 13:19, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
@Hurricane Seth: I took a look, and it doesn't seem like anyone else has taken the invitation and left an additional comment. I've left a comment of my own that hopefully addresses your concerns. Mz7 (talk) 04:24, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
@Mz7: Thank you so much for your input and I look forward to seeing the article moved to the mainspace! — Hurricane Seth (talk) 06:09, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
Some pages have templates that describe problems with that article. There is now more information for mobile readers and what is wrong with the article and how they could help fix it.
The sort order of categories will have errors for a short time starting Monday 9 April (UTC). We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a script to update the database. This will take between a few hours and a few days depending on wiki size. You can read more details.
Tag filter titles will now work better on wikis where the tag filter title is in a language that is written in another direction than the language of that wiki. This could for example be an English title (written from left to right) on a Hebrew or an Arabic wiki (written from right to left).
Problems
The bookmark icon for saved filters on the recent changes page disappeared because of new icon changes. This has now been fixed.
For a week in March rollbacks got both the rollback and the undo tag on the recent changes page and other pages where you see tags. This has now been fixed.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 April. It will be on all wikis from 12 April (calendar).
Patrolled edits now have three states instead of two. Recent changes filters are updated to show unpatrolled, autopatrolled and manually patrolled edits.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Hi Dear i want to ask you how can any body delete Article without read talk page discussion. Kumarjisk (talk) 17:47, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Kumarjisk. To answer your question in a general sense, Wikipedia administrators have the discretion to delete pages unilaterally (that is, without the need for discussion) if they meet one or more of a specific set of criteria. You can find these criteria at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Mz7 (talk) 06:45, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome note buddy! SammySmith8765 (talk) 07:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Hey can you help me create my page because I don’t know how that much and I’m new to Wikipedia, can you help me with Oriental Ruthless Boys/Boy and thanks ORB 559 (talk) 18:59, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
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Changes later this week
Profiling statistics for an abuse filter tell how often edits match the filter. The statistics for the abuse filters were reset after 10000 actions. Wikis can now decide to reset it more or less often. They can file a phabricator task to do so.
Abuse filters will now treat integers and floats more precisely. For example, 5/2 was rounded down to 2 but will now be 2.5 and 2*4 will be the integer 8 and not the floating-point number 8.0. Division values are the only ones changed. For the rest only strict comparisons (=== and !==) will be affected leaving the values unchanged.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 April. It will be on all wikis from 19 April (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
The new PDF renderer could not create PDFs from books. Books are in this case collections of pages on a Wikimedia wiki. PediaPress will take over development of the books-to-PDF function.
Pywikibot will no longer support Python 2.7.2 and 2.7.3.
Thanks for uploading File:International Baccalaureate logo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
The issue of user repeatedly reporting possible username violations with no edits has been going on long enough and regularly enough that we have a template for it {{UAA-no edits}}. You can add it to your custom warnings in Twinkle. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:28, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
You closed this as Merge, but I was under the impression that we typically do not merge unsourced info. The entire article is unsourced but obviously came from the one external link, to a primary source, which appears to have since been redirected from coppersquare.com to dtphx.org (downtown phoenix.org). While it is reasonable to mention in Downtown Phoenix that the core was branded for a time as Copper Square, that info would have to be added with independent sources. I don't see anything to merge from this article, and even a redirect is not warranted at this point since the term does not presently exist in the Downtown Phoenix. MB 02:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi MB. I generally take a loose definition of “merge” at AfD; it is ultimately an editorial decision what content should be merged, and if everything in an article is unsourced, I’ve observed that many “merge” outcomes are practically synonymous with “redirect”. I’ve gone ahead and redirected the article on that basis.
Reading the discussion, my understanding is that the topics are clearly linked, and absent a consensus to delete, I saw this as the most natural compromise solution that reflects the consensus of the discussion. Redirects are cheap, and we don’t necessarily require that the redirect title be mentioned in the target article in order for the redirect to exist (cf Category:Redirects to an article without mention) because a mention can always be added by an interested editor later. I hope this helps explain my reasoning a bit, but since the discussion was admittedly limited, I wouldn’t mind reversing my close and relisting the discussion for another week, if you wish. Mz7 (talk) 02:47, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
No need to relist. Redirect is fine, although I don't think in this case WP:R#ASTONISH is met and Copper Square should be mentioned - but I'll leave that up to the editors that said Merge. I do request that you edit the discussion close to say Redirect instead of Merge as that makes a difference in my AFD Statistics. Thank you. MB 03:24, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
@MB: I don't see any major problems with that, so Done. Mz7 (talk) 03:53, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
This is the only way i could ask something. I think My article On the Australian Spinosaurid was fine as it was. I did not want it taken down so quickly as i was waiting for some rumored new fossil metrical of certain dinosaurs to come in. Sorry if i sound a bit rushed i am in School right now. Rapator and An Unnamed Newzeland Theropod have their own pages too so why not this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs) 20:30, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
@Bubblesorg: The reason is because several other editors thought that a separate article was unnecessary, so all of the content of the article can now be found at Spinosauridae#Localities. You can see their full reasoning at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Australian Spinosaurid, but what it comes down to is notability. There does not seem to be enough information available about the subject in reliable sources to warrant a standalone article. Mz7 (talk) 20:33, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
The iOS and Android apps now have synced reading lists. This means you can save articles to a private list that can be seen on your other devices if you use the apps.
The visual editor and the 2017 wikitext ask you to write an edit summary after you press Publish. This button now also shows an ellipsis. This is to show that pressing Publish is not the last step.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 April. It will be on all wikis from 26 April (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
<mapframe> will come to most Wikipedias in May. This means that you can put interactive maps in the articles. Nine Wikipedias that use a strict version of flagged revisions will not get this feature in May.
The rollback function could change. This was a German community request. All editors with rollback rights can leave feedback on the proposed solution. The last day to leave feedback is 4 May (UTC).
After this second unblock request which appeared to be more trolling, I revoked talk page access for this account to avoid any further wasting of time. Premature? OhNoitsJamieTalk 01:25, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Ohnoitsjamie: I don't have any loud objections to revoking TPA expeditiously in this case. I also got the sense that we were getting trolled here, and reading over their most recent unblock request, it seems clear that at the very least, they still do not actually understand why their edits were problematic: Thank you for ... showing me how honest indictments may be construed as vandalism in order to protect a hoax with popular support and funding that may deem it authentic. The one thing that I don't quite agree with is protecting the talk page. Since TPA for the account has already been revoked, that should be enough to stop them from editing the talk page. If the user uses IPs or alternative accounts to evade the block to edit the talk page, then we could consider semi-protection then, but until that happens, I don't think protection is necessary per WP:PP#User talk pages. Mz7 (talk) 01:48, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Good point...I had a brief mental lapse and forget how to revoke TPA via the block link. Thanks for fixing that. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:08, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar
hi i'm new but i want to be friends will you be my friend. Donaldnemyer455 (talk) 20:15, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I would like to get trained to be in the Counter-Vandalism Unit. Can you help me? I see that you have no open slots, but could I be next in line or something? EDG 543 (talk) 15:44, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi EDG 543. Unfortunately, I will be rather busy with real-life work over the next two weeks. I should be able to take you on starting around May 9. How does that sound? Mz7 (talk) 23:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
@Mz7:I think that will work. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by EDG 543 (talk • contribs) 15:20, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Pllease make me your student for the Counter-Vandalism training program —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swaraj Sagar Pradhan (talk • contribs) 05:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
@Swaraj Sagar Pradhan: As I told EDG 543 earlier today, I am currently busy in real life and will be unable to start training you until May 9. Is that okay? Mz7 (talk) 07:23, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
~S.Brendan.S~(talk·contribs) is evading their block on 72.198.182.107(talk·contribs·WHOIS). From the looks of things, they clearly do not have the competence to edit productively here and I don't see that this kind of behavior from them will ever change. Would you consider modifying their block to indefinite per WP:NOTHERE and WP:CIR? Thanks. (long-term, experienced IP editor) 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:596C:872C:BA3E:F030 (talk) 23:41, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
I would like to have some counter vandalism training. Afootpluto (talk) 20:15, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
@Afootpluto: A few other editors have asked me this over the past few days, and unfortunately, I'm a bit busy in real life at the moment. If no other trainer is available, I would be willing to take you on in mid-May – is that okay? Mz7 (talk) 05:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
@Afootpluto: Hello! I'm a new instructor, and am willing to take you on as a student if you're willing. Please contact me on my talk page if you accept. Vermont (talk) 00:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Dubai Properties would like to change the title of their page from Dubai Properties Group to Dubai Properties - can you help please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iprospectmena (talk • contribs) 11:31, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
@Iprospectmena: I'm not familiar with the subject of the article, but looking at the company's website, it seems "Dubai Properties Group" still exists as a parent entity to "Dubai Properties". If the article was originally about "Dubai Properties Group", shouldn't it stay about Dubai Properties Group? On a different note, regarding your affiliation with Dubai Properties, please read our conflict of interest guidelines to ensure that you do not inadvertently breach our policies here. Thank you. Mz7 (talk) 18:01, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick response Mz7. I am currently working with Dubai Properties as their Digital Media Agency and they have tasked me with making the updates on their behalf. Okay, question for you. Dubai Properties Group is still showing on their website (for now) we will most probably close this page later on but can you help me with something else? 'Dubai Properties' had their own WikiPedia page but someone merged/deleted the page in 2013 with the Dubai Properties Group Page. Is there a way I can bring the Dubai Properties page back and/or un-merge it? They need this back, my plan was just to amend the Dubai Properties Group page but if we can bring their old page back that would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iprospectmena (talk • contribs) 10:56, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ipropsectmena: Prior to the merge, the article looked like this. It appears the entire text of the article was simply transplanted in what we currently see as the "Dubai Properties" section at Dubai Properties Group. It looks like around 5 years ago, I closed a discussion that resulted in this merge. It's been so long, I did not even remember. Reading over the discussion, it seems the agreement between two editors was that it was unnecessary for a "Dubai Properties" article to exist in addition to a "Dubai Properties Group" article.
One thing that I think you should keep in mind is that the editor community here is generally leery about companies who try to edit their own articles, because oftentimes they end up adding content that is inadvertently too promotional. If "Dubai Properties Group" is changing into "Dubai Properties" again, we should look at reliable sources (e.g. independent reputable news coverage) to see whether the change is reflected in their coverage as well. We don't necessarily always follow the direction of the organization if reliable sources don't follow suit (e.g. Swaziland recently changed their official name to "eSwatini", but editors have agreed not to change the title of the Wikipedia article). If you think most reliable sources use "Dubai Properties" instead of "Dubai Properties Group", then we could start a requested move discussion to get feedback from other editors about it. Mz7 (talk) 19:35, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The parameter for unpatrolled edits in recent changes filters changed name. You might need to update saved filters and links.
Problems
We are migrating wikis from Tidy to Remex. Because of a bug the 250 wikis which do not yet use Remex were switched on 23 April. This is two months early. This meant that pages with broken wikitext showed wrongly to readers. The bug was undone the next day. You can help fix broken wikitext to avoid this problem when your wiki switches. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. You can follow the process on Phabricator.
When an administrator blocks someone they will have a calendar they can use to choose when the block ends. This is to make it easier to pick a specific date.
You can soon turn on the Performance Inspector in the Editing section in your preferences. It shows information about the performance of pages. This could be the size of modules in the page, how many CSS selectors are defined on the page and how many are used, or the size of the images on the page. This tool is intended to help editors fix pages that load slowly.
There is a new abuse filter function called equals_to_any. You can use it to check if its first argument is equal (===) to any of the following ones. For example you can use it to check if the page's namespace is amongst a given set of values in a more compact way than you could earlier. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 May. It will be on all wikis from 3 May (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 2 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
The Wikimedia Cloud Services team is working on a new project called Toolhub. The goal is to make it easier for Wikimedians to discover software tools they can use. You can leave feedback on the talk page or email jharewikimedia.org to leave private feedback.
All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in all namespaces will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 2 May. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Wikibooks wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch on 9 May. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018.
A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.
Technical news
AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new equals_to_any function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash.
When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.
Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.
Hi Mz7, please check your email when you get the chance. Thanks, TheSandDoctorTalk 18:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I'm wondering if you could perhaps advise on an irritating situation. There's an IP editor, who usually goes by the name of 82.40.206.32, and his single purpose here is to add the Hungarian-language names of various Romanian airports to their infoboxes, as "native names".
Here is an example of what I mean. And it's absurd: for one, ethnic Hungarians are under 2% of the population in the city served by the airport. For another, the airport was established in 1943, a full 25 years after the area was no longer part of the Kingdom of Hungary, so it has never been under Hungarian administration. Finally, there is, as far as I can tell, no provision under Romanian law for referring to airports by any name other than in Romanian.
Anyway, is there any long-term solution to this issue, rather than me endlessly having to revert whenever 82.40.206.32 decides to add in another round of "native names"? Thank you for your help. - BiruitorulTalk 13:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
@Biruitorul: Ah yeah, edit warring is not an optimal solution. Generally, the solution is to stop reverting and start a discussion with the user and try to form a consensus (the argument that you just gave me – have you told it to the IP yet?), but what will probably be better in this case is to start the discussion at a centralized place to get outside input, such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Romania or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation, inviting the IP editor to the discussion. Once it is clear that a consensus exists for either one of your positions, even if it is something like two editors against one, then it is much easier for an administrator to justify something like a block. As it stands, without a clear consensus, it would be hard for me to block for disruption because that would look like me taking a side in the debate and using admin tools to enforce my personal views – a violation of WP:INVOLVED. On the other hand, if there were a consensus, it would be easier for me to block because I could say that an editor was "editing against consensus". Mz7 (talk) 16:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Well, after some days of going back and forth on this issue, 82.40.206.32 and I seem to have agreed on all the airports but one. Specifically, it looks like we're going by Romanian legislation, only including the Hungarian name for the three airports located in cities where ethnic Hungarians exceed 20% of the population.
@Biruitorul: I have left a warning on the user talk page, and in hindsight, I should have left this kind of warning earlier, when you first brought my attention to the issue, so that the editor is aware of the edit warring policy. For that, I apologize. I have also fully protected the article Cluj International Airport temporarily. In the meantime, it may be helpful to seek outside input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Romania or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation, as I mentioned earlier (neutrally worded notification (e.g. "please take a look at this discussion") is not inappropriate per WP:Canvassing). If the user continues to persistently revert or personally attack you, I have warned them that they may be blocked. I hope this helps. Mz7 (talk) 19:42, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. It is now easier to find nearby places that need pictures. It helps you with direct uploads and title and category suggestions. The app only works on Android phones.
Problems
The abuse filters had a problem with blocks where you had changed how long they last. It used the default length everywhere. This was in late April. Abuse filter users should make sure the right block length is used and change them if needed. This is only for filters where how long blocks last had been changed.
Changes later this week
The advanced search function beta feature will be on all Wikimedia wikis. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 May. It will be on all wikis from 10 May (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 8 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 9 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 16 May. Other wikis will switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018.
Can you unblock that page to edit. I can't edit that page because of someone had been block it. Therefore please unblock it.. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.250.242.108 (talk) 03:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Not done. The page is protected against creation for a reason: each time it has been created, it has failed to credibly indicate the importance of its subject. I suggest you find another topic to write about. Furthermore, if you have ever been blocked from editing Wikipedia on an account here (e.g. you are related to any of the accounts listed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Divyanka Babu/Archive), you are simply not allowed to edit, so any page that you submit here may be deleted for no reason other than the fact that a blocked/banned user created it. Mz7 (talk) 03:27, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
To the contrary, I think the Kamchatka brown bear is indeed a glorious bear. But it's not appropriate for us to write that in a Wikipedia article. Mz7 (talk) 01:47, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
You are right. My actions against Boisityourselfdown were inexcusable. It just angered me so to see his craven vandalizations against an important discussion on a website with millions of dedicated users working to make it an excellent factual resource. People like him don't help, but still, I stooped to his level, and for that I will and must face any disciplinary action that comes as a result. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Delfadoriscool (talk • contribs) 18:33, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
@Delfadoriscool: It's all good as long as you promise not to do it again. The only consequence is a warning. Given Wikipedia's nature, vandalism occurs on articles many times every day; one of the things some Wikipedia editors do as maintenance is patrol the list of recent changes at Special:RecentChanges and revert edits they identify as vandalism. We even have special tools that assist in this task, the most popular being Twinkle. We would be glad to have you on board, and you could learn more about it at WP:CVUA. Mz7 (talk) 18:46, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your forgiveness. I shall strive to be a better Wikipedian in future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Delfadoriscool (talk • contribs) 01:12, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Just because he is Bosniak declaring himself as Croat does not mean he shouldn't belong to category "Bosniaks of Croatia". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.130.24 (talk) 09:45, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I was forbidden to edit his page. I can't add that category to his page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.130.24 (talk) 18:49, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Mz7 Hasanbegovic was born in Bosnia to Bosniak parents. His mother for example is from a place where there were almost no Croats. In Croatia he is a member of several Bosniak organizations. Beacause of influences of Ante Starcevic and WW2 (need to know Croatian history) he declares as Croat. He can be whatever he wants, but nothing can change the fact he is Bosniak who declares as Croat. Please add that "category" and don't allow Tzowu to edit the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.130.24 (talk) 18:58, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I protected the page because of an ongoing edit war. On Wikipedia, repeatedly reversing each other's edits due to a disagreement is generally seen as disruptive to the normal editorial process. Instead of repeatedly reversing, you need to discuss the changes you want to be made with the editors involved in the disagreement. I personally do not have any opinion on this issue; instead, you should explain your reasoning at Talk:Zlatko Hasanbegović#Categories, where another editor, Tzowu, has explained their reasoning for why they are against adding the category to the article. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 01:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
There, I have also explained why I am for adding the category to the article. Thanks! --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.38.145.105 (talk • contribs) 10:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
So, when will I be able to edit his page now that I have explained why that category should be added? --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.155.236 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
You will not be allowed to insert the category into the article unless and until a consensus exists among editors to add the category. As long as there is disagreement, the article must remain in the state it was before the disagreement – in this case, without the category. Mz7 (talk) 17:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Mz7. Please check your email; you've got mail! Message added 15:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.
I have already posted a reply to the discussion section of the the page: and I request you to make the necessary changes and/or to allow me to edit the page. I really would love to contribute to this page, revert vandalism and make it better. Thank you. --Icestorm6 (talk) 06:35, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
The new Advanced Search interface is now available as a Beta Feature on all wikis. This makes it easier to learn about and to use many of the powerful options in our search. Feedback is appreciated.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 May. It will be on all wikis from 17 May (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 16 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
In the mobile view, warnings for when something is wrong with a page are not as clear as they should be. The developers are working on this. You can give feedback and suggestions.
The developers are working on making the Wikipedia Android app available in more languages. You can give feedback, suggestions and help test it. Read more on mediawiki.org
Thanks for blocking Qwerty69696969(talk·contribs) but they are back with Donna1738(talk·contribs). Would you mind blocking them and protecting the page? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:23, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
@JustBerry: I see it, thanks. I've left a more targeted warning on the user talk page, and if they don't respond to that, I'll block. Mz7 (talk) 16:26, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for protecting Robert S. Katz but the IPs seem to be relentless. Is there any way a range block can be placed on them? The only edits to the page since the protection have been to revert vandalism. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 04:52, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
I saw that I made the same rangeblock Mz7 made earlier, except that I made it a year long. Drmies (talk) 04:55, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi Dear,
I want create new artical which releted you have deleted previously Krina (film), you have deleted the title the lake of evidence and proof. But now it have so popular on internet and full of evidence, about to release indian cinema on 8 June 2018 so i think starting creation about this title, This title is not related to me any angle i am only say based on its popularity and i found internet its have no Wikipedia so i tell. Ritesh the king (talk) 07:10, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
If you allow to me i will get more skill develop of contributions of articles creation,it would get experience growth to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritesh the king (talk • contribs) 07:16, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ritesh the king: Have you ever edited Wikipedia using any other accounts besides "Ritesh the king"? Mz7 (talk) 21:56, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
No dear i have not use any other account beside Ritesh the king but i have learnt mostly every thing about wikipedia creation throw IP address creation non account edit, now i am experienced for artical creation. Ritesh the king (talk) 07:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ritesh the king:Krina (film) was deleted because a consensus of editors determined that the subject is not notable enough for Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krina (film). Please find some other topic to write about. Mz7 (talk) 19:53, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
The discussion was closed before I could reply, but your comment is worth replying. First the sentence I quoted actually has anything to do with what you said, above all what I quoted is preamble to wait you quoted which is in bulleted list. I don't know why you claim they are not related at all. Second, yes I agree with you I did generalized "Vice Chancellor" post in my reply, and this was done subconsciously due to my background. I do try to learn and adapt to international nuances and subtleties when speaking/writing but sometimes one cannot help. So actually my usage of VC in that context is only meant for those who are holding it as the highest position, not anything else. I hope I clarify myself. Thanks. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:46, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ammarpad: I was just confused why you quoted that passage. Of course meeting any one of the PROF criteria would result in notability, and nothing in my comment indicated I did not know this. Mz7 (talk) 14:51, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
My final exam is completed. Waiting for your response. Thank you, Siddiqsazzad001<Talk/> 16:38, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, Siddiqsazzad001. I'll probably get it reviewed on Monday. I've got a commitment that takes up most of my time Saturday and Sunday, unfortunately. Mz7 (talk) 03:38, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
The article, which you decided to keep has been nominated for a merger with Internet Phenomena less than 10 hours after the deletion discussion closed by the same person who nominated it for deletion, which may be considered forum-shopping. Five people in the discussion opposed merging the article and 2 people (three if you count the submitter) wanted to merge it. It seems as if the people trying to delete the article are so desperate towards doing so, that they have to go as far as to possibly forum shopping. What i'm trying to say is that the majority of people want to keep the article, not merge or redirect or delete it and that nominating the article for a merger less than half a day after the deletion discussion closed is considered forum-shopping, then close the discussion immediately. We don't want a deletion and/or merger war to happen because of this article being considered "Non-notable" by some. 344917661X (talk) 19 May 2018
@344917661X: I've closed the new merge discussion. Mz7 (talk) 03:37, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 May. It will be on all wikis from 24 May (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
It could become easier to reference different pages of a book in an article. You can give feedback. The last day for feedback is 27 May.
Periodically, on the last Wednesday evening of the month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to munch, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
We allow time for announcements, informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Bring a friend! Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. This months focus is images!
We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks (maybe pizza too!).
FYI: The removal of sourced content did seem and look and feel very much like vandalism to me. I don't bring IPs willy-nilly to AIV. Just saying. -- ψλ ● ✉✓ 13:32, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello Mz7, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
ACTRIAL:
WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
Deletion tags
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.
Backlog drive:
A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.
Editathons
There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
Paid editing - new policy
Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
Subject-specific notability guidelines
The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
Not English
A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.
News
Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
The next issue of The Signpost has been published. The newspaper is one of the best ways to stay up to date with news and new developments. between our newsletters.
I had an idea for an essay earlier today, and I typed it out here: Wikipedia:Dealing with stress. To my talk page watchers, let me know if it's dumb, and feel free to add your own tips if you feel there's something I left out. Ultimately, I think this is targeted at editors who have been here for a while, but are just starting to branch out into some of the more confrontational areas of the project, such as ANI or controversial topic areas. It's also targeted at editors who feel so discouraged by the stress involved with participating here that they are considering leaving Wikipedia completely. The advice in the essay is probably things that most of us have heard a million times, and a lot of it is probably naive, but these are the words that I live by as I continue editing here, and I guess I wanted to share it with others. Mz7 (talk) 21:08, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Sir,
I see you have an available Student Slot Open for Counter-Vandalism training.
This is a cause I could see myself contributing to in the long term. I have a very strong technical background, I am a long time user of Wikipedia, and this seems like a great way to give back.
If you're willing, I would ask that you train me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Z3a1 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi Z3a1, welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed that you haven't edited Wikipedia using this account before. The course is designed for users with at least some amount of editing experience, so I would recommend that you spend some time and edit some articles yourself before taking this course. You can find more information about contributing at Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia. Mz7 (talk) 17:11, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
You can now use global preferences on most wikis. This means you can set preferences for all wikis at the same time. Before this you had to change them on each individual wiki. Global preferences will come to the Wikipedias later this week.
It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked.
There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups.
Some rare invisible Unicode characters have recently been banned from page titles. This includes soft hyphens (U+00AD) and left-to-right (U+2066) and right-to-left (U+2067) isolate markers. Existing pages with these characters will soon be moved by a script.
There's a new Wikimedia Foundation team to support the Wikimedia technical communities. It's called the Technical Engagement team. Most of the team members did similar work in other teams before this.
Problems
Some translatable pages are showing old translations instead of latest ones. The cause of this issue has been fixed. We will update all pages automatically to show the latest translations.
Changes later this week
There will be a new special page named PasswordPolicies. This page gives information about the password rules for each user group on that wiki.
A new way to see moved paragraphs in diffs is coming to most wikis. This is to make it easier to find the moved paragraphs and the changes in them.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 May. It will be on all wikis from 31 May (calendar).
Wikis can enable Citoid to provide automatic reference look-up in the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. This is complex. The tool will now disable itself if the configuration isn't correct. It has warned about this in the JavaScript console since February. Check that your wiki is configured correctly. You can ask for help if you need it.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 29 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 30 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
Content Translation drafts which have not been updated in over a year will be removed. This allows other users to translate those articles.
A survey is collecting information on what users think about how Wikimedia wiki pages are loaded. This information could be used in future development.
Some wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 30 May and 13 June. Wikis with fewer than 100 linter issues in the main namespace in all high-priority linter categories will switch. This includes Wikidata. Tidy will probably be removed on all wikis in the first week of July.
@JustBerry: OK, I've deleted Draft:Celebrity Authentics and blocked the account for username violation. I've revision deleted the Molex edit you linked. I've blanked User talk:Masoudyous1723. We're generally fairly lenient on what users can have in their user sandboxes, since it is just a testing space for editing. Unless there is clear hate speech, I'm inclined to leave the other two alone. I would also leave Kh saeed lone's user page alone too. Doesn't seem too unrelated since it's currently just a user box (we allow a limited amount of autobiographical content on user pages, as long as it doesn't become a WP:FAKEARTICLE), though a note about the purpose of user pages might not hurt. Mz7 (talk) 18:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)