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If it had been anyone else I probably would have taken it out:) You are correct of course that he is a Japanese citizen whereas all the others since Tochiazuma – Asa, Hakuho, Harumafuji, Osh and Baruto – are not, so it is perhaps notable, but as I believe the JSA always goes by the birthplace listed on the banzuke in regard to whether someone is 'foreign' or not it is a little confusing. But it's not a big deal, I'm not going to take it out now and I doubt anyone else will. I'm delighted for Tenho of course but I can't help thinking that a Kisenosato or Tochiozan victory would have been great for sumo and they've both blown a chance that may not come again for quite some time. Saw your new articles, excellent as always, and the fighting style sections will be added shortly. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 11:12, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Nice addition there. Interesting that Wakanosato and Kyokutenho have earned only two kinboshi each despite both being around for donkey′s years. Just makes you appreciate all the more what a marvellous record Akinoshima′s is.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:04, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi FourTildes,
I just wanted to draw your attention to photo of Oosunaarashi which I took last Friday and uploaded to Commons. As the article is still "yours" in a way, I would not like to change the photo you included without asking you, but find the other one a bit more personal. Phlyz (talk) 15:54, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I see you've been changing the Xs in the tourney table to Not Held, which is good, but unfortunately you've been adding explanatory notes to the top of the table when there is already one at the bottom (which I don't remember doing actually, maybe Kaiketsu did it?), causing a lot of duplication. I started removing some of them but rapidly got bored:)--Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:06, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
In the course of making some minor edits, somehow this article got mangled ;-) and I don't want to mess up the work you have been doing. Please look at the following edit diff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rikishi&diff=561148407&oldid=561136424
This is supposed to be me, but in fact I only intentionally altered the top couple of paragraphs. So how did "Lifestyle of rikishi" turn into "...promotion and demotion..." - I have no idea. I will revert back to your last version (as best I can), then make the changes I intended: please check the result. Thanks! Imaginatorium (talk) 04:31, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I see that an admin has deleted Musashigawa stable, which was previously a redirect to Fujishima stable (2010), so you can redo your article on the new Musashigawa stable. But Musashigawa stable should really be a disambiguation page, like Fujishima stable, as both incarnations are likely to be searched for under that name. I hope you′d consider putting your article at Musashigawa stable (2013) instead.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:43, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey FourTildes, I sent an email to the Musashigawa stable, don't know if I'll get a reply though, asking if the satble is a brad new stable or a continuation of the old one. Also, should Mienoumi Tsuyoshi be included as the 1980 to 2010 owner of the stable, as per tradition. Or maybe you accidentally deleted that section by copying and pasting. Either way, what do you think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leveni (talk • contribs) 04:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey again. I've mentioned your name in an article I wrote on the admin's board, hope you don't mind. But, I feel it wrong that your original article was removed. [The link is here.]--Leveni (talk) 06:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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i went ahead and moved that translation into the lead paragraph~ after having read through the article now a couple of times i notice a few things i'd like to point out to you, seeing as you seem to be monitoring the article... all about the name:
the spelling used in an article's title is what i've been taught to use within the article itself; the current title is WITH the bar over the Õ and withOUT the dash... you might want to give some consideration to WHICH is best for posterity~ NOTE: Japan Times reports his name WITHOUT EITHER; no bar, no dash =you may actually wanna consider moving/renaming the article to reflect JT's official spelling?? just advising as per encyclopedic formatting~
one more thing though: i'm not sure if theres special precedence for sumo names but... usually for famous people who are known by different names, the article TITLE is their ring/stage/pen-name, but THEN: the first usage of their name in the article is their BIRTH name followed by the "better known by/as ring/stage/pen-name" instead of the way youve got Osunaarashi credited in the first sentence... as i said, i'm not too sure if this should be the case for sumo but i've been corrected in the past when dealing with entertainer articles~ that might require ALL sumo articles to be re-formatted that way: for one, i noticed the Gagamaru article currently names him in the first sentence same as Osunaarashi~
!dont mean to bog you down with details! hope its helpful; let me know if i can assist any way in the future~ Japanglish (talk) 05:03, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Did some searching in Japanese + the fact that anything from 1956 and backwards is free. The US Library of Congress has some really nice, high resolution, ukiyo-e woodcuts as well. Kaiketsu (talk) 12:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
The content is very good but whole sections have little or no references. That I think is the reason it lost its GA ranking in the first place. I actually think that the references listed could cover all sections but they would have to be placed. If that could be done it would be a simple mater to put the article up for GA which has the added bonus of critiquing what else is wrong.Peter Rehse (talk) 11:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Those are interesting tables, but I do wonder if it would make the article too bloated if they were included. (I actually don't think the "most tournaments to reach makuuchi" record should really be there either, as it's scarcely a record one would be proud of, but that was an indulgence of mine.) Would be OK in a Sanyaku article though. Maybe one should be spun out from the glossary? I also wonder if rikishi from the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries should actually even be included, as they're not really comparable. Should we possibly restrict such tables to the six-tournament-a-year era, as the NSK do (I think)? BTW thanks for today's update - extraordinary that Hakuho has reached a figure in 13 years that took Akinoshima 23 years! Just shows how dominant he has been.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 11:53, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
if you've got any sumo-writing-with-attitude which may not have an outlet elsewhere, checkout japanglish.org and contact us there~ best. Japanglish (talk) 06:18, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
thanks very much for the input, highly appreciated~ i'm top man on a small totem pole so if i don't catch oversights or misinfo it's readers like you who do~ amended the Ozeki typo (embarrassed that went "live"), will tend to Kakuryu timely! Japanglish (talk) 12:11, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
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I don't understand this update. Is it supposed to say "oldest makuuchi wrestler" instead of "first wrestler"? I also don't understand the citation, as it doesn't seem relevant and the access date is 5 years before the event in question. 129.78.68.1 (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I replied to you question on your Talk page. ~ ~ ~ ~ (talk) 01:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Just a heads-up that I've asked on the talk page if there are any other reasons behind his sudden retirement at just 26. Obviously we don't want unsourced speculation in the article but I would really appreciate it if you could do a little digging if you have the time :) --Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:19, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't really have a strong opinion on the Nishonoseki stable vs Nishonoseki stable (1935) "controversy" that seems to be raging but I do think that Nishonoseki stable, which is currently a redirect, should instead be a dab page if Nishonoseki stable (1935) is going to exist. Thoughts?--Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:29, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
What I decided to do was undo the cut and paste moves, and then make a formal request to move Nishonoseki stable to Nishonoseki stable (1935) at Wikipedia:Requested moves. I think this is the proper thing to do as there has been an objection. The reason for the delay is that I've not done this before and I wanted to get it right – I'm unsure, for instance, whether I need to ask for the disambiguation page to be done at the same time. This all seems rather more complicated than it needs to be :(--Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:30, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes I always take an interest in what goes on round here even if I'm not editing as often and I'll back you up if necessary!--Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:51, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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Oh, ok - I wasn't aware of that (I don't think you did mention it before.) I thought that date was just for the infobox. I'll change it in future.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
I hadn't noticed. I did notice Tiger Boy didn't. That's okay. You are thinking about it anyway. I don't mind if you wait until next time around when you are updating something. To be honest it is even more useful for checking whether or not the bio is up to date, as the career record is easier to see if it has been updated or not at a glance. FourTildes (talk) 13:41, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for getting opinions. I do prefer the guinea pig example. Good job. Sundayclose (talk) 19:27, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
I know you did some work on this a while back, and I'm reluctant to start fiddling with the template before getting your opinion. I noticed when I added in Kakuryu's kyujo for this basho in the tourney template, that it shows at 0-0-0. Shouldn't it be 0-0-15? 0-0-0 should be either for cancelled tournaments or post-intai tournaments.
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I have created Hidenoumi Takuya. Please take a look as it's my first attempt at a Sumo article and I'm sure there are lots of improvements needed. Tigerboy1966 14:21, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
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Sorry about adding those couple of articles a bit too early. I actually did see that guideline that you wrote but it was a few days after I had created the pages. I really appreciate all you and a few others have done to explain sumo in English (which is of course a much quicker read even if one does read a fair bit of Japanese). That really motivated me to add a bit of what I have learned over the last few years since I have really been becoming interested in sumo. I'm really excited to see what Mitakeumi and Shodai have been doing over the last couple years, and I was excited to have the chance to be the first to publish articles for two rikishi that I feel have great promise as well as add a picture I took of Mitakeumi that I think came out really well, but I guess I may have jumped the gun a little. I'll definitely be frequenting the sumo pages for the long term, and I hope I can stay motivated to put some effort into maintaining them as well. Cheers.Khafre78 (talk) 06:59, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I spotted them on the Commons (via a ja wiki article) and most of them seem to be scanned from a June 1961 issue of "Sumo" magazine a few months ago. I think 50 years after publication is public domain. 1961 is too early for Wajima of course but I will keep looking.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:26, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, I'am watching for sumo wrestlers table at Russian macuuchi article. Can it be modified more automaticly or it can be modified only by hands? Just asking becuase I' am quite new member and don't want to do like a cave people. May be you can provide any links or something?
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Kagayaki isn't sorting properly for "current rank". He ends up between juryo 9 & 10. Can you take a look please? Tigerboy1966 18:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, a user has removed the images from Asahiyama stable (2016). He did it a while back as well. He seems to be saying that they are actually of Kasugayama stable. I looked at the two sets of pictures on Wiki commons and they do appear to be the same. Maybe you uploaded the wrong ones? Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:49, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Was just browsing Chiganoura stable when I noticed this edit of yours. Interesting idea - I'd not thought of adding a specific section for that info, although some articles do mention the heya's location. I put in a little bit about Takanohana stable's move just today, coincidentally. Have you added any other location sections?--Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:54, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
I noticed some years back when I was doing the systemitIzing work that Asashosakari started, that many of the Japanese articles had such info so I started integrating some. To be honest I thought I'd done all of them - but did not obviously. Yes, several heya articles do have a location and access section. We can add more. I don't mind helping if it's easier for me to do. FourTildes (talk) 20:44, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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To give this guy an article??? The new Mainoumi!--Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:58, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
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Does that mean you have registered me or whatever the term would be PK3? If you haven't feel free as you know what to do now. :) FourTildes (talk) 09:19, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
I do apologize for the errors with prizes that have resulted from my changes. The reason I was making these changes to your tables was that I was actively working on fixing Lint errors (WP:Linter); specifically, ones where tables hadn't been correctly set up. These both caused the table to not appear properly, and would cause issues with Wikipedia trying to move to HTML5. By having two sumo box starts but only one ending, this resulted in there being an extra table starting tag, thus causing the Lint error.
If need be, if you can point me to the sumo record end I should have used, I can try to correct my mistakes and make sure people aren't misled by the incorrect prize information. Wsan2 (talk) 20:31, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
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Your previous message got reverted so I added the “in use” template to List of active sumo wrestlers. You can go ahead and make your update. Just to be clear, I won’t be doing it :) -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Didn't want anyone beating me to it. It used to be I was the only git who could be bothered! Heh. FourTildes (talk) 23:43, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Hey, do you know how to transfer files to the Commons? I cam across this photo of Endo which is on the Japanese Wikipedia but not on the Commons (as far as I can tell). I figured we'd be having an article on him before too long. We did have an image before but it was deleted.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:43, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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I have corrected the rank for Ikioi at the List of active sumo wrestlers but I couldn't get the sorting correct. Can you help? Tigerboy1966 06:44, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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I've updated the list of active sumo wrestlers with newly created articles and also those that were accidentally deleted during the previous banzuke update, just so you know and take it into account for the Kyushu banzuke ;) - OtharLuin (talk) 15:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Four! Just a note to thank you for the recent additions of images to the stable articles! It's a big job and I'm sure the whole WP appreciates it massively. 💪 I was thinking about another thing, do you still have the image of the yoshiba chanko ? I still have in mind the project of rewriting the article on Miyagino stable. - OtharLuin (talk) 11:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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