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Just a brief reprise on my adduction in [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman ], deleted for lack of "notability", at the expense of accuracy and factual completeness.
In fact, the reader ought to be able to track down some more Feynman PhD students, some retired, some vigorously active in theoretical physics, in the Standford SPIRES HEPNAMES database, [ http://www.slac.stanford.edu/spires/find/hepnames/www?phdadv=Feynman,+Richard+Phillips ]. I will, of course, not spend any more time in trying to parse out the tendentious criteria for inclusion in articles, but, ideally, Wikipedia ought not to mislead by omission.
Well, Thomas Curtright now does have a WP article.
Cuzkatzimhut (talk) 16:25, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for this explanation. By changing "nonlinear" to "linear" I tried to follow the notion of linearity implied in Kuczma's books (and especially in Kuczma, Choczewski, Ger 1990). A more general functional equation is discussed there: f(h(x))=g(f(x)), and depending on whether g is linear or not the resulting functional equations (special cases of the above) are considered linear or nonlinear functional equations. The simplest choices for g are:
1) g(x)=s x, which results in: f(h(x))=s f(x), Schroeder's equation (linear)
2) g(x)=x+a, which results in: f(h(x))=f(x)+a, Abels's equation (linear)
3) g(x)=x^p, p>1, which results in: f(h(x))=[f(x)]^p, Boettcher's equation (nonlinear)
However, considering your arguments I agree that leaving just "functional equation" (that is dropping "linear" or "nonlinear" altogether) might be the best decision.Aoryst (talk) 14:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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I do understand your point. But I shouldn't name it that way. First of all, the appropriate term should be "warrant". This is a legal term I seldom use when I plead my cases. And the deal itself should be deemed as a deed. I think that there could be a redirection such as this one " ... the deal was guaranteed by Plapoutas ..." so as the reader understands the quality of the operation. Periptero (talk) 00:04, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I agree that Elmas may be a key figure in the whole story, although not mentioned in Kolokotronis Greek-language edition. I just point out that it should not be included in a sentece with a reference were it is not present. Periptero (talk) 00:04, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
" ... There was residual bitterness over the spoils, of which 'the lion's share was seized by Kolokotronis', in a negotiated fashion ..." I understand that you want to point out the barbaric behaviour, but I think that you are focusing the event with a 21st. Century view -which is in fact good for your own personal conclusion - but becomes out of context within XIX Century war, in the Balkans.Periptero (talk) 00:13, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I agree with you that the article itself has not a uniform style, but a sort of antagonist positions messed up together in a text which really attempts against understanding . When I wrote one of the originals, I presented the theme more from the Greek's point of view from Kolokotronis memoirs but also Paparigopoulos, Stratiki and Kefentzi. The events of the massacre per se were not dully highlighted so when other editors included sources (mostly western oriented) I considered them welcome. But this inclusions became excessive, distorting the article itself -even by erasing notable portions describing the military operation, in favour of the attrocities commited (as if a battle had not taken part). Plus, other editors with nationalistic positions included pro-Greek texts and it became a mess. I personally think that an article for an encyclopaedia, must focuse the point and do not become off-subject because of including too many aspects. this is the reason why when I mentioned the deal made by Kolokotronis with the Albanians and granted by Plapoutas, I didn't involve in a description of the deal itself. A reader, if interested will go to further sources and not stick to WP. Else, if not interested, with what is written is enough for him. The French article although well presented, has a little bit of this problem. But this is due to the lack of other pages covering the Greek War of Independence, therefore in one article they had to deal with many subjects. I think that the English version, taking advantage of a cohesion of pages should be smaller in lenghth than the French but with correct redirections and specific military data and battle orders.Periptero (talk) 17:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
About the historical event itself, I must highlight that western vision of warfare does not fit within a Balcanic context. This was not Waterloo or Saratoga or Iena, where military ethics held. This is comparable with the South American independance gueriila warfare; only that the Balcanic theatre was, is and will be much more savage because of the 'ideosincratia' of the people involved. This way what Allison Philips or Willy st. Clair in their Anglo-Saxon romantic morale concluded may be important; but irrelevant within a Balcanic theatre. I like this passage though: The Turks of Greece left few traces. They disappeared suddenly and finally in the spring of 1821 unmourned and unnoticed by the rest of the world....It was hard to believe then that Greece once contained a large population of Turkish descent, living in small communities all over the country, prosperous farmers, merchants, and officials, whose families had known no other home for hundreds of years...They were killed deliberately, without qualm or scruple, and there was no regrets either then or later. Exactly, this is what all this war was about. In our late 20th- early 21st. century contience is is aberrant, but not in the Levant in 1800's. Now, as regarding the battle itslef, let us watch it this way: both the intelectual mentors or the Ypsilantis brothers -who may have been idolatrized by the Westerners as the initial leaders of the revolution-had the slightest idea about what the fighting in Balcanic territories within Ottoman context was about. The real experts of ground warfare were local chieftains like Kolokotronis, Karaiskakis, Nikitaras, Papaflessas, Botzaris and of course the Maniots. When we reach to the Fall of Tripolis, you will notice that this was the momentum for Kolokotronis. It was now or never for the old man to make public his capacity of leading the Greek Army and showing the others that he was the real icon of 400 years of pursued revenge, and just not another Greek soldier dressed in the red coat of the Duke of York's light infantry. Apparently his leadership was apointed by the Filiki Heteria itself; the Maniots (and Petrobey) who were reluctant to cede leadership, accepted. But the Mavromichalides, had proved effectiveness in keeping the enemies aside. When war broke out, Petrobey departed from Tsimova and "liberated" the southern Peloponesse. Also,when difficulties reached away from Maniot territory range of influence for first time in Valtetsi, again the Mavromichalai (this time Kyriakoulis) saved the day. Now we are in front of the major ground operation in the war up to the moment, i.e. to capture a big city like Tripolis which was the symbol of occupation in the Morea. And here Petrobey throws the ball on to Kolokotronis and seems to be saying like let us see what you are capable of doing, General. This is present in Kolokotronis statement: When I entered Tripolitsa, they showed me a plane tree in the market-place where the Greeks had always been hung. I sighed. "Alas!" I said, "how many of my own clan — of my own race — have been hung there!" And I ordered it to be cut down. The Greeks expected from Kolokotronis to lead them to victory, to humillate the Turks and to perform revenge. This was his real baptism of fire as hegemon of his troops. And he fulfilled the Greeks expectations by massacring muslims and jews. And he is worshipped up to today in Greece for such (there are plenty of demotic songs listened up to today). This way, placing an article from an englishman or a frechman point of view make things sound different because western view cannot understand this sort of Holy Religious War; as they couldn't undeserstand the following events taking place in the Balcans (up to today's Yugolsavia's breakup). Many times, neither do I. Take care.- Periptero (talk) 17:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
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