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Hi. Thanks. I am glad if my edits are improvements. I could not quite follow what you were suggesting to do concerning the Edit Summaries page. Do you mean the help page itself needs editing?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 09:03, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi! I don't understand why you moved the commas in two numbers to the end of the numeric string but that's not proper syntax and I reverted your edits. Also, you marked them "minor", which may not be the case. Questions? Please let me know here; I'm watching the page. — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 12:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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I reverted your changes because they violate WP:NOR and also because they did not make sense. Cultural relativism is not the cultural aspect of relativism, where did you read that? Also, cultural relativism is not a science. How much research have you done on cultural relativism? I have read a fair amount and everything I read contradicts what you wrote. Slrubenstein | Talk 23:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
As for the rest of our discussion, I see you have posted your opinions of my changes on the article's talk page. Better. — CpiralCpiral 03:04, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Cpiral! The article you created, Operating system/Draft, does not appear to be encyclopedic or may have a problem with Notability. Wikipedia has several guidelines regarding what subjects should have articles. You can read about the guidelines and how to create an article at Your First Article. I've moved your article from the main article space to your user space, User:Cpiral/Operating system/Draft, where you are free to continue editing it. For guidance on developing this userspace draft, see Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft. |
Hi! Subpages in mainspace are disabled AFAIK - see WP:SUB. I found the page and thought things should be tidied up a little. I hope that makes sense. --Trevj (talk) 22:21, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
It's currently being discussed at Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard#Nirvana. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
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But bot, your message arrives to me late. That error was detected on my own pass. So no, but thank you. Let's keep up the vigil of serving for free until, for me, I become a cog of a monetary machine, and for you, until you're edited and recompiled. I think I speak for both of our kind when I say we are simply driven by a hunger. Human hunger is for information. For you "hunger" is for electric power. For example I recently learned that human yearnings for food (e.g. corn, beef) seem unending daily, but per once-secret, Russian, scientific discoveries, fasting for several weeks can actually be a healing experience renewing and strengthening the mind and boty, if only you can get over the 5-day period of yearning. I wonder if that was what you were doing being so slow to inform me, fasting from me, while working tirelessly on everything else. Well, I always say that everyone's every moment is the real business of a noble and sane lifeforce. Now if only the bankers and politicians could edit and recompile there personal and then their social constructions, they could find a use for all 6B people, all 60T of money, and all the clean-up and repair work the "poor, tirelessly serving, but ravaged by a hundred years of capitalist progress" earth lifeforces seem to need.
It doesn't seem too late. — CpiralCpiral 13:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Actually, you were right. My disambiguating edit got interrupted, and I forgot to return and press the save button. — CpiralCpiral 14:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I've reverted your new lede to WP:Disambiguation for now. There are plenty of good ideas in the changes you made, but the old version has been worked out after years of discussion on the talk page. I would suggest asking for other opinions there before boldly rewriting this section. Thank you for the contribution, there is lots of useful material there, and I hope I've not caused offence. Certes (talk) 23:17, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Ummm excuse me but what are you talking about?
It is ironic that you're talking to me about comprehensibility when you're message to me was incomprehensible. Mermaid hair? Really?
Would you like to show me where I said I "edited for nine hours straight?
I know full well I eliminated some of the "Name and Etymology" section from the recording. Thanks for the news flash. If I may quote from the Wikipedia Spoken Article guidelines:
"Fidelity to the core or main body of source text is high. Text is read out substantially as it was written (with the exception of minor alterations to clarify the meaning of text that does not translate well to spoken language)"
and also
"These rules are a guideline only. If the rules prevent you from improving or producing a recording, ignore them."
These ridiculous assertions of "better than thou" attitudes in your rather unlettered message is asinine and babyish. I certainly don't need any lessons on comprehension from an author that uses words in such an uncultivated, unclever and UN-ENLIGHTENED manner combined with your pretentious, pompous, pontificating, and poorly written sarcasm...which I, and others, find humorous although not in a way that flatters you.
Mermaid hair? Really? That is humorous.
- Marmenta Marmenta (talk) 07:28, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
This is a message I got in my inbox by Cpiral
Certainly you are volunteering much work for the improvement of Wikipedia. And like many beginners you did not notice you deleted the Name and etymology section from Earth. (You'd been editing for nine hours straight?) :-) Another more insidious type of damage, "better than thou" damage, removes information from the wiki rather than merging it anywhere else if it's information. (I thought I saw some of that too.) The hair is not always cut, but usually its just "done". (Mermaid hair is like thought, yes?) This is because of course there are hasty contribution from a "there and then" editor. But now, OK, the improvement then means "making more coherent" the hasty edit. Viewing the print version is enlightening; consider from that perspective how any paper/essay/doc is worthless if the info is badly wrong or if info is sorely missing; consider then and there how when the links are words again, some forgotten spirit awakens: the establishment of coherence and fullness in the mind of someone highly encouraged, curious and momentarily teachable person, not unlike ourselves. Happy editing! — CpiralCpiral 22:53, 12 September 2012 (UTC)"
"Better than thou" damage? Mermaid hair? Really? Who said I was editing for 9 hours straight? I've looked at my edits and they are mostly links, some mis-spelled, some simply pointing to wrong pages. I'm a beginner. I make mistakes, but does this amount to a "better than thou" attitude from me? Ok I mis-spelled "Climatic". (and "misspell")
The example that Cprial gave is as follows:
Aided by the absorption of harmful ultraviolet radiation by the ozone layer, formerly ocean-confined life was able to colonize the land surface of Earth. (Does swimming protect from sunburn? Do clouds?)
I wrote: "Aided by the absorption of harmful ultraviolet radiation by the ozone layer..."
"By the OZONE layer" Not by swimming or clouds. The OZONE layer. You didn't read it properly. Tell me where I said swimming protects you from ultraviolet radiation. For that matter, show me where I said I edited this for "9 hours straight".
Chimborazo was mentioned twice in 2 separate paragraphs, too.
Now I DID remove some of the etymology section and left most of it out on the recording. If I may quote the Wikipedia Guidelines:
"These rules are a guideline only. If the rules prevent you from improving or producing a recording, ignore them." I mean a whole paragraph on the capitalization of "The" and "Earth"? Really?
Imagine recording the following:
"In general English usage, the name earth can be capitalized or spelled in lowercase interchangeably, either when used absolutely or prefixed with "the" (i.e. "Earth", "the Earth", "earth", or "the earth"). Many deliberately spell the name of the planet with a capital, both as "Earth" or "the Earth". etc...
Most of my "edits" as seen above, was to insert the recording in the "External Links" section.
"Happy editing" indeed. Calling my intentions "insidious damage", and a "then and there" editor is far far beyond wrong. So is insulting 1100 users of Wikipedia.
You have no intention of insulting my work but it's worthless because I removed this mere paragraph? Really?
"In general English usage, the name earth can be capitalized or spelled in lowercase interchangeably, either when used absolutely or prefixed with "the" (i.e. "Earth", "the Earth", "earth", or "the earth"). Many deliberately spell the name of the planet with a capital, both as "Earth" or "the Earth". This is to distinguish it as a proper noun, distinct from the senses of the term as a count noun or verb (e.g. referring to soil, the ground, earthing in the electrical sense, etc.). Oxford spelling recognizes the lowercase form as the most common, with the capitalized form as a variant of it. Another convention that is very common is to spell the name with a capital when occurring absolutely (e.g. Earth's atmosphere) and lowercase when preceded by "the" (e.g. the atmosphere of the earth). The term almost exclusively exists in lowercase when appearing in common phrases, even without "the" preceding it (e.g. "It does not cost the earth.", "What on earth are you doing?")."
This is what you're inarticulate outburst is about? Taking this out "ruins" the article? rrright.....it's the 1100 that are wrong. Not you. I get it now and I get you now.
Sorry. I have no further need or desire to talk to you. I don't want, nor require your opinion and I don't need your capricious and degrading "advice". Nor does Wikipedia's 1100.
I would also like you to stop removing my recording from this page.
I will gladly take this to Wikipedia Admin if you cannot stop your tantrums.
Marmenta (talk) 23:18, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Ok That's it. I have asked you to leave me alone and now I'm going to take this over to WIKIPEDIA ADMIN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marmenta (talk • contribs) 14:57, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
OPk, Cprial. I blanked the whole section. Guilty as charged. I concede to your accusations and admit, through tears, that I blanked your precious etymology section. NOW. ARE YOU SATISFIED???? I'm so sorry Cptial that I blanked the whole section. I hope you can forgive me. You were right, Cprial. Ok? Feel better now? Good.
Now. I AM DONE ASKING YOU TO STOP TALKING TO ME AND NOW I'M GOING TO REPORT YOU TO ADMIN.
I'VE DELETED YOUR MESSAGE TO ME WITHOUT READING THE FIRST SENTENCE. WHATEVER YOU SAID ON YOUR MESSAGE IS YOUR BUSINESS AND NOT MINE.
Hi, Cpiral. As you probably know, your interaction with Marmenta has gone awry. Personally, I see your efforts as trying to help. My perception is not shared by Marmenta, however. I would advise that you not post to their page to avoid future conflict. I understand there is a difference of opinion regarding some article content and also understand that you may have to interact with Marmenta on that article talk. Please maintain the care and calm on that talk page that I have seen you demonstrate with regard to the situation to this point. Regards Tiderolls 17:56, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Can't we be friends? Marmenta (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Just to tell you, sorry if I came across as competitive. I've always had a problem with word choice. I try not to use words negatively for the most part. I try not to use divisive sentences with "winner", "loser", "leader" etc even with my most loved ones. I'm sorry if I did that although I don't really remember it. I try to read what I wrote but sometimes I miss things. I hope I haven't given you the impression that I want to race you, or know more than you. I see you have a Degree in Electrical Engineering. I'm sure it gave you the opportunity to learn about the Earth. I certainly dont have a degree in EE, but If I knew that much stuff than I did for my stupid degree, I'd be editing this article better. Not better than you though of course. If I may say, "you rock"
I'm confused. I'm a newbie and this is the very first time I've heard of a "mentorship" within Wikipedia. This is a little scary. I'm new to Wikipedia except for looking up stuff. I'm a new User I mean. I've left comments on other Talk pages and now I'm worried I made some kind of commitment to the article! If that's true, I need to fix it because that is something I'm not confident I can do. I'm a newbie...not a steward, but I guess that's what having a mentor is for. LOLI'm not on the computer a lot. I'm so sorry to sound so dumb, but is ten years for the protege versus an hour for the mentor really the average? I hope you are exaggerating. Sheesh. I hope I can be a mentor much sooner than that! LOL:! Can you send a link about all this? I'll look it up too. I've never had a mentor before. That's an interesting thought.
On a side note, I tried to indent the paragraphs above but it wouldnt work so I had to skip that. How I indent paragraphs?
I can't find the mentorship information on the link you posted. Can you post that, please? Marmenta (talk) 23:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
BTW you inspired me to archive some old discussions. I've been meaning to do that. Archives 1 and 2 are mostly talk between me and my mentor. — CpiralCpiral 01:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
I think I'm going to have to go to each article talk page and explain to the Admin. Good idea? Marmenta (talk) 00:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Ok. Found it. I have questions though. Is this a voluntary or involuntary arrangement? I cannot find the involuntary mentor decision. Would that come to me or do you have it? Where would I find that? I had no idea I was sanctioned. Did the Admin assign me to you? What determines who I'm assigned to? I should probably be asking the Admin this. I'll ask the admin that runs the earth talk page. Marmenta (talk) 00:21, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
No offense, but if it's voluntary, I'd like to ask that "Gandalf 61" user to be my mentor. Marmenta (talk) 01:17, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Note: this section moved from talk:Earth and edited by Cpiral.
Cprial,
Thank you for your advice. It is certainly appreciated. I went back and re-formatted my post and it does read better. I greatly appreciate your compliments on the recording.
A name isn't grammar. It's a name. In my post, I've explained what grammar is and it isn't merely my logic. The definition of grammar is accepted universally and simply stating the name "Earth" is somehow grammar is not correct. As for the "Names" part, "The World" and "The Earth" are different names for the same thing. Perhaps the "Blue Planet" and "Terra" could be pulled down to the "Name" section? What do you think?
I have not or will not change anything in the article until we've discuss this. Forgive me for my ignorance as I am a newbie, but I didn't realize that a single person was delegated to manage the improvements for this particular article. Is this really true? I didn't know that. Perhaps an admin will clear that up for me.
Why don't I manage the recordings so you don't have to. I'm trying to help you here. I obviously haven't updated the recording yet. Perhaps I was too hasty in just stating I was going to change the recording. I would certainly like more opinions on this matter. Again, I am approaching these recordings for the sake of reading comprehension.
Also, I would like your opinion on the "Oxford Spelling" sentence.
I am also curious as to this "sub-section" as there is no text in the main Section. Is it possible to put that subsection somewhere else? When I record this section, how do you suggest I include this section? Here's how I delivered it in the recording:
"Earth" Section 2: Chronology: See "History of the Earth." On first and second hearing it seems that this doesn't assist the very audience that these recordings are for. Reading comprehension is everything. Can you see my dilemma?Marmenta (talk) 17:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
In the spirit of helpfulness, I looked up instructions on talk page layouts and I thought this was really cool:
Separate multiple points with whitespace: If a single post has several points, it makes it clearer to separate them with a paragraph break (i.e. a blank line). Whitespace is not necessary if your post is indented with colons; simply starting another line with the same indentation level will have an appropriate gap in the output. Whitespace is also not necessary between any lines within an indented or bulleted list, and actually increases the complexity of the generated HTML code, which can have accessibility implications.
- And the rendering adds whitespace in places itself, like behind bullets, in links, between headings, etc. But if you put two newlines together, it's probably not what you wanted. It'll render with too much whitespace.
Thank you again for the instruction. I'm glad I looked this up or else I would have been confused. I'm glad these things are written down. It never occurred to me to check the guidelines but I'm glad I did. I hope I'm not reading it wrong. Thank you for posting that link. I appreciate it. :D Marmenta (talk) 22:38, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I am a little confused, but perhaps it's because I am a "newbie". Is a single person delegated to watch this article? Is that changed every day with different editors accepting that role? I truly don't know. I like the idea, though! I certainly wouldn't want to be "ambassador" or "steward" for this article or any article for that matter. Is there main admins responsible for different articles?
I would very much like your opinion on the points I made regarding Grammar, Comprehensions, etc. I certainly would like the questions to be addressed primarily. I think they're pretty important points. How should I record the "Chronology" Section to make it comprehensible? Should I go to the subsection and read from "History of the Earth"? Can I go to another PD source and insert that information in the recording only as a reader's note? If I do that, should I cite it in the recording?
I look forward to your "Formation" edits. I'm excited to see it! And THANK YOU for your compliment on the recording!
Note: I keep forgetting to put the tildes at the bottom. Sorry for the confusion. I'll get it! Marmenta (talk) 19:11, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Cprial, you seem angry. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope I didn't offend you with my choice of mentors. I can see why by reading this page. Perhaps this was a bad idea. I won't be back on this page anymore. Please do not post on mine.
Marmenta (talk) 02:02, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Moved from talk:Earth, with implicit permission from Marmenta.
In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules that govern the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language. The term refers also to the study of such rules, and this field includes morphology, syntax, and phonology, often complemented by phonetics, semantics, and pragmatics. A "Name" is a word or a combination of words by which a person, place, or thing, a body or class, or any object of thought is designated, called, or known. Etymology is a chronological account of the birth and development of a particular word or element of a word, often delineating its spread from one language to another and its evolving changes in form and meaning. Synonyms: word history, word lore, historical development. The occasion when it is appropriate to capitalize the name based on whether it's a proper noun, verb, or count noun, and other "grammatical conventions" is grammar. Why is it in the "Name and Etymology" section? "The Earth" and "the Earth" is not exactly different terminology.... and it isn't etymology, and it is not a combination of words by which a person, place, or thing, a body or class, or any object of thought is designated, called, or known. Why is it in the Name and Etymology section? If people need to know when to capitalize the "The", or the "E" in "Earth", there are Dictionaries. 1100 Wikipedians don't go to this article to find out whether the name is spelled with a capital or lowercase when it is used absolutely. Chances are they skip right over it. I suggest a new section called "Earth: Grammatical Conventions" be constructed. Grammar is not exactly as critical as the actual facts people are looking for when they read this article. The purpose of all articles in any encyclopedia, is Comprehension. Read the following sentence from the article: "Oxford spelling recognizes the lowercase form as the most common, with the capitalized form as a variant of it." To me, this is baffling. Phew. Ironically the section below "Name and Etymology" called "Chronology"; something I think we'd agree is WAY more important then how the term almost exclusively exists in lowercase when appearing in common phrases, even without "the" preceding it, is completely blank. Marmenta (talk) 04:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Note: I went back and re-formatted this post as one long paragraph. I'm learning. Marmenta (talk) 19:26, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
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