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You are welcome! ;-) --Aarktica 22:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
My guess is that he accidentally nixed the full text. The edit summary referred to the unecessary reference and not the rest of the text. To be honest, I don't think that editor was the problem. Long levi 08:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
--Peta 03:20, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I have been expanding several articles for the Blue Jays seasons and I started creating articles for the Braves and Expos seasons and I just wanted to say that your 1935 Tigers article is superlative. This is a very well done article. It is nicely detailed and well researched. You have definitely given me some creative inspiration. Maple Leaf 17:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Instead of adding things like 1968 Detroit Tigers season in the "see also" section (which should ideally be absent/empty), might it be preferable to include the link in templates such as Template:1968 Detroit Tigers? It's certainly a more natural place for users to seek that material, and I don't think we want player articles cluttered with numerous season articles in the 'see also' section. MisfitToys 23:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Good job creating articles on The Animals' albums and songs. Please be careful about the requirements of music-related articles: album titles go in italics, song titles go in double quotes, songs don't get wikilinked unless there's actually an article for them, album and song articles always have at least two categories (for year and group), and article title disambiguation, when necessary, uses "The Animals" and not just "Animals". If you look at some of the changes I've made to the articles you created, you'll see what I mean. And kudos again for creating these, they have long been missing and it's good to have them here. Wasted Time R 22:51, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Good work with {{Michigan Wolverines Football}}. I added Mike Kenn. Have you looked at http://mgoblue.com/football/article.aspx?id=40076 for additional players.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 18:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Good job on the template and the page for important seasons but you are incorrectly wikilinking some people. For exaple, for the 1902 team it links to James Lawrence the american naval hero, not football player. Make sure to check the links. Happy editing. michfan2123 (talk) 18:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
You seem to have access to some serious Michigan Football resources that I don't have. We could rack up a bunch of WP:DYKs and WP:GA working together. You may want to check out the {{cite web}} and {{cite book}} templates. I am going to start cleaning up the articles you just sent me. I would appreciate it if you could add any info you may have access to on Greg Skrepenak, Tyrone Wheatley, Jon Vaughn, Al Wistert, Albert Wistert, Whitey Wistert, Mercury Hayes, and Ricky Powers. Several of these are up for consideration at WP:GAC right now. Skrepenak is especially high in the queue. If you add info try to use the templates above like the rest of the references in the article so I don't get dinged for being sloppy with the refs. I am having great difficulty finding info on Whitey Wistert's Michigan Baseball performance that won him the Big Ten MVP. Any help here would be great toward a future GA nomination.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 19:22, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I put a lot of tags on the Julius Franks article. I hope you will be able to say what came from where within the next few days because I am going to nominate this for the WP:DYK feature of the main page. It needs to be cleaned up by the 5th day which is the 1st of December to make the main page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 00:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Based on my experience at WP:AFD Hutchinson is a borderline case. I have watched Duke basketball players get AFDed. Irons is O.K. There is more to him than being an All-American that non Michiganders would care about. I don't know how loose things are going to get, but I had a McDonald's All-American headed for Georgetown AFDed. I am just saying be careful. I suppose with our template all UM All-Americans may be kept by association with each other. I am just not so confident about Hutchinson. I am not going to nominate him for DYK because I don't want to call attention to his article. I am not certain it would survive.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 01:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Dan Dworsky has WP:FA potential. I would love to work with you toward this end. Is it possible that you could convert some of your references to {{cite news}}, and {{cite book}} format? I don't know if you have ever pursued FA, but they get picky about minute details like which of the three types of WP:DASHes you use. You would certainly have to cite your work properly. I am going to try to do Don Dufek, Glen Steele and John Vitale tomorrow. Then, I will get to Dworsky as time permits. I have a lot of work to do for another project on Thursday and Friday though. You may want to look at T:TDYK. I did not nominate Hutchinson. His text is just short of the required 1500 characters. If you want you can beef up his article and nominate it. We have until the end of the 29th (UTC) to make such a nomination. You may want to check out all the other nominations we have in the pipeline there.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 01:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
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Your name was inadvertently left off of the next update that I grabbed to update the main page. I apologize for the error and award you the notification now. -- Royalbroil 02:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
How should we incorporate the Winged Football Helmet into the template?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 20:49, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Got your notification right this time! It is unlikely that there will be enough time to use all of the articles that you created in that single day. You may want to go to the suggestions page and request an order if you have a preference. --Royalbroil 22:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
--Spebi 08:42, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I am leaving some queries on Talk:Dick Rifenburg that we should check out.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 15:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I mentioned I will be working on another project today and tomorrow. I don't know if I will have any time for football. I have some ideas on reformatting the template. I mentioned adding mulitple years and consensus and unanimous. I will also add decades this weekend if I get a chance.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 16:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
--Carabinieri (talk) 22:03, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Cheers, Daniel 23:20, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I listed players once for each year they were All-American. The source is at the top of the code for the article. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 02:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I have nominated Dick Rifenburg at WP:GAC.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 20:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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I also nominated Bob Timberlake, Dennis Franklin, Gordon Bell (football) and Don Dufek.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 20:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
--Royalbroil 21:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
--Carabinieri 11:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
I have been enjoying tagging along with your great work. Jack Clancy has been fun. I am considering creating a WP:FLC Lists of Michigan Wolverines football receiving records with game, season and career receptions and yardage leaders.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 20:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you have any stories on Jim Mandich. It seems like he would be a good article to beef up.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 22:44, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
--Royalbroil 02:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
--≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 13:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I created articles for Michigan Wolverines football players Chris Howard (American football), Chris Floyd (American football), and Paul Staroba. I have also created an article for Jarrett Irons' cousin Paul Irons. Fell free to come by and edit them. I hope to beef the Michigan guys up enough for DYK (1500 character min).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 18:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
--≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 20:21, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
--Royalbroil 14:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Did you check to see if you have anything to add to any of the Wistert brothers or Greg Skrepenak? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 18:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 20:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you have any information on the Raiders playoff roster. It looks like he was not on the 49-man roster:
--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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I am having trouble with Hoey. Was the record 206 in a game or 103 for a return?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 01:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
--Royalbroil 03:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I am making some progress with Lists of Michigan Wolverines football receiving records. I will probably do a passing in a few weeks. The only significant redlink I saw was Eric Kattus. If you have anything for him that would be great.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 10:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
We need a better hook for Hammerstein. He is getting overlooked at DYK. If you have anything to add to the article or a better hook we need to add an (alt hook)?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 15:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there anything that would make John Kolesar notable enough to withstand an AFD recall this: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE1D6153CF933A15752C1A96E948260
I see he was all Big Ten and had more starts than Chris Calloway both his junior and senior year. I don't think either of those things makes him wiki notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 15:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Great stuff on Wistert. We are probably still short on a GA because we don't have enough to explain why he was Big 10 baseball MVP. What is the Michiganensian? Does it deserve a {{cite book}} ref or is it a mag?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 16:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
BTW,
The template does not describe consensus and unanimous after Steve Hutcinson because the source is a little old. Do you have another source?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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I am thoroughly enjoying working together with you to clean up the Michigan Wolverines football articles. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
I don't see a DYK hook.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Adam Cuerden talk 05:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
--Woody (talk) 14:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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We had the wrong Taylor listed on the Template. There is a mistake at Bentley. Billy was not A-A.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I have put your hook to the next update template. I corrected it. The article says that when Ford was asked if the election loss was a regret, he said it was (too). So both are his two greatest regrets, not just the the football position. Chergles (talk) 21:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I started the Garland Rivers article. If you have anything to add feel free.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
—Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
--Carabinieri (talk) 12:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Grasshopper,
The Jamie Morris article looks really good. You might want to lengthen the WP:LEAD. Also, I am not sure you are allowed to use logo's in bio articles. Nontheless, you might want to try to take it to WP:GAC yourself and get familiar with the process.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:04, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
--Carabinieri (talk) 19:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, the above GA nominee is on hold, please respond to concerns on the talk page within seven days or the article will fail. Due to concerns I have with the article, when you believe the current problems to be fixed, notify me and I will reassess it then and either pass, fail or extend the hold based on results. Regards --Jackyd101 (talk) 04:26, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I am thinking of eliminating the other important figures section. I think we have fleshed out every type of individual who could reasonably contest being added for being in a class of important individuals. I think the remaining persons are personal favorites more than important persons. The only possible category I might add would be Michigan Hall of Honor. However, I think we should leave the template generic so that other schools from other conferences as well as our own can copy it in a way that helps the project move forward without needless battles. I like guys like Dennis Franklin, Jon Vaughn and Jamie Morris. However, from the international Wikipedian perspective, they are not cleanly distinguished from others not included on the template. Why not add Julius Franks, Elmer Gedeon and endless others if we don't just say we have got all important categories of Michigan players included. Any thoughts?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I missed that. If he is not in the NFL we should clearly remove him. I will check and see what I find.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:25, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I am going to remove Tyler Ecker as well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
What about Jamie Morris? Did you want to go for a DYK and GA on your own or should I give it a once over too?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 15:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I have finished the Gedeon GAC. I have also put some notes on the Template talk page about Brandon Williams.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 02:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Butch Woolfolk looks good. You should use better sources for Big Ten annual champions (see Tyrone Wheatley).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 05:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I have posted Dick Rifenburg at WP:FAC. We need to add a WP:FURG for the WBEN logo that you added. Do you know the source of the image?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
--EncycloPetey (talk) 04:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Mailer Diablo 19:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
You should create these tables on separate pages and transclude them. For example, if Mike Hart gains any yards you would have to go five places to change the yardage. If you create it in one place and transclude it you will only have to change it in one place.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
You may want to chime in at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_football#BCS_Football_Schools_template.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Are you a professional researcher or something. You have found some astoundingly interesting things that could not be found by a normal person.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 16:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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Congratulations! Here's a medal for you in appreciation of your hardwork in creating, expanding and nominating 25+ articles for DYK. Keep up the good work, Cbl62! ... I understand there are quite a few notable American footballers who still need an article! --Victuallers (talk) 17:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
Did you know that one other DYK contributor was so keen to get a medal that he stubbed his toe? Victuallers (talk) 17:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
With your new service can you find the 2006 Ann Arbor news article on Tony Boles referenced here?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Would you consider supporting Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Lists of Michigan Wolverines football receiving leaders.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 15:49, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I reverted to template underlining. Thus, when you click on a page, the names in bold in the template are more readily legible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 16:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
You are now researching guys where my googling and 1981-present NYTimes database will not do much good. You are also now a highly skilled page producer so I won't be doing much to your pages. I will be creating more lists. I will probably do rushing today. I am thinking about a defense (tackles, sack, int) one, but i am not sure about its redlink preponderance. I have to reformat the passing one to be like the receiving one and then create articles for all redlinks with NFL experience.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Should Matt Gutierrez and Justin Fargas be on our template?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I am trying to get a better eel for the 1949-present database. Do you know if there is a Dick Rifenburg of rushing. Did Jim Pace ever hold the career rusingh yards record or was there a pre 1949 guy who had a higher total. Did Carl Ward or Ron Johnson ever hold the career record. Whose record did Billy Taylor break? I am thinking of slapping some text on my rsuhing leaders lists and putting it at WP:FLC, but I need to get a better understanding of the rushing history.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I have created List of National Football League Kickoff Returner (Touchdown Percentage) for the Jon Vaughn page. However, once I transclude it all the [[Devin Hester fans will keep it current for me.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
You supported Lists of Michigan Wolverines football receiving leaders, which passed yesterday. Today, I nominated Lists of Michigan Wolverines football rushing leaders and Lists of Michigan Wolverines football passing leaders. Please consider supporting them as well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
See my talk page for a response. Altairisfartalk 03:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 06:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
--Royalbroil 14:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I've nominated Jack Blott, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created.2Fexpanded on December 17, where you can improve it if you see fit. Black Falcon (Talk) 23:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Wow! Just ... wow! I'm amazed at the fact that you've written three high-quality articles in less than four days. Incidentally, have you considered nominating Germany Schulz for good article status (possibly even featured article status after a peer review) – it should be a shoo-in?
Anyway, there are quite a few possibilities for hooks in that article, such as:
What do you think? By the way, my knowledge of American football is rather limited, so I'm not certain whether the wording of the third hook is technically accurate: did the "roving center" technique become the basis for the linebacker position, or would it be more accurate to say that it reflected the essence of the linebacker position? Or are both incorrect? :/
The James B. Craig article also deserves a nomination, and I'll read that next; I don't think there'll be a problem with having too many articles for Michigan football players in light of the fact that the articles were created on different days. WP:DYK only recommends that DYK should not contain more than 1-2 articles on the same topic at the same time; it says nothing about featuring multiple articles related to one topic in succession. – Black Falcon (Talk) 00:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Support at WP:FLC.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 06:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
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For your extensive record of quality contributions of articles about sports events and athletes in Michigan, with 300+ articles created, including ones like Germany Schulz, Jack Blott, Miller Pontius, and Frank Steketee. Thanks for your excellent work. – Black Falcon (Talk) 07:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC) |
Maybe you need a more detailed link: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Lists of Michigan Wolverines football passing leaders, Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Lists of Michigan Wolverines football rushing leaders —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 06:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Cheers, Daniel 11:29, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
--Royalbroil 14:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I have had 5 or 6 Michigan DYKs on the main page at gametime this season. Main editting should start tomorrow to get a gametime DYK. I was thinking about expanding Keith Bostic (football player). Let me know if you would like to join in or do someone else.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 22:54, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Cheers, Daniel 12:03, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I have put together something on Keith Bostic. I am going to shoot for the main page at game time. Nice work on Bump Elliott.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 01:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
--Royalbroil 23:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
You are continuing to make some great pages.
--Wizardman 18:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I have beefed up Marquise Walker. Some of my sources are kind of week. If you have access to the Baltimore Sun, it would be great if you could get the true Ozzie Newsome quote and anything else you might be able to add about him being remembered for his one-handed grabs.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 01:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for reviewing the table. I always appreciate input on my work. Ah, 1947...I cringe thinking about how many Blue fans I will have to face about that year. First, I would like to assure you that I personally consider Michigan to have been the best football team in the nation in 1947, and I'm sure a vast majority of experts would agree with me (it wouldn't surprise me if half of the 119 writers that voted Notre Dame #1 in the special poll were strict adherents to the pre-bowls format, and the other half was just plain dumb — although I might be in agreement to the tiniest degree with the former, as, in those days, the bowl game was not so much a season climax as a nice trip to California, with a football game thrown in). I wish to God I could bold the Mad Magicians — nine other Michigan teams won consensus national championships, and yet the 1947 squad, the team robbed of the title by famous Notre Dame, was the best of the bunch. I smiled when you mentioned Bump. In fact, I have a great deal of sympathy for your situation. The 1958 Hawkeyes won their consensus title from the FWAA, who voted after Iowa smashed Cal 38-12 in the Rose Bowl. So, be prepared, as I will sound like a massive hypocrite defending the decision to exclude Michigan's '47 team from consensus status, a decision which I can find no way out of and yet am tortured by every day. Sorry for the melodrama.
The sources of the consensus national championships are the official NCAA record book and the list of champions on NCAAsports.com, the official site for NCAA sports. Like you, I am very appreciative of the inclusion of the NCF as a consensus selector through 1935 (which knocks on four more titles for Michigan). The period from 1950 to the present is also very sound, save the inclusion of the NFF as a consensus selector. It's the period from 1936 to 1949 that gets me. A number of deserving teams were named national champion by selectors other than the AP, with the 1947 Wolverines leading the pack. (no pun intended — wolverines travel in packs, right?) Both the record book and the NCAAsports.com list have Notre Dame as the one and only AP champion of '47. I read all of the information about the special poll of 1947 in 1947 Michigan Wolverines football team. It goes without saying that it is difficult to prove what was and wasn't official sixty years ago, and, in this situation, I'm afraid that it might take more than a few local newspapers to overthrow the NCAA. Most of what I've heard claims that DFP editor Lyall Smith put together the poll, and all of what I've heard claims that the poll was unofficial. Basically, what it comes down to is finding a way to prove that the special poll was official, if such an achievement is possible. If you can do it I would be behind you 100%, and I'll provide any help you may need along the way. As I've said, I would love to be able to list Michigan as a consensus national champion in 1947, but, until I have enough to go on, the decision has been made by myself and others to rely only on the official information. Good luck on your quest! (Again, sorry for the melodrama.) Iowa13 (talk) 06:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
With all your recent work on the 1947 Michigan Wolverines football team I was wondering if you found anything to beef up the Gene Derricotte article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 13:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I have posted automated peer reviews at Talk:Germany Schulz and Talk:John Maulbetsch. I will get to your other three articles this week. You should try to clean them up. If the problem is caused by a direct quotation say so.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Paul G. Goebel is like Billy Taylor (American football). Only Bentley lists him as an All-American. Was he first team?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 06:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I have seen information that Bostic has been an NFL coach (I assume assistant). With your resources, it would be great if you can find any info.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 06:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Can we copy the Bentley images for players before 1923? Are these published in a yearbook or Michigansian or something.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep up the good work. Gimmetrow 13:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Rick Volk has become my fourth A-A controvesy (following Bubba Paris, Billy Taylor, and Paul Goebel). What do you know?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
The Gene Derricotte and Bob Chappuis images would not pass at WP:FAC because both men are living and a main image should not be a fair use copyrighted image. We may get away with them at WP:GAC.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I would cite as a source such as the ESPN Encyclopedia of College Football, which clearly enumerates for each season which All-American lists are recognized for unanimous and consensus (50%) designations. I would also make sure the All-American page clearly explains what consensus and unanimous are with a sourced ref if possible. Then you could also note that in any year there are several other lists not officially recognized toward consensus/unanimous designation to account for the likes of the controversies I pointed out on your talk page earlier. The ESPN format is pretty good. They use a table where in one column is the players name and in each of the other columns is a particular list with appropriate checks. I think that would be a better layout for this type of page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
--Carabinieri (talk) 20:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
excellent job on article, keep it up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.0.36.36 (talk) 01:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I have serveral problems with the Ed Frutig article. I just changed the DOB in the template, but as you say it is still controversial. More importantly, look at th DI football for blocked punts (http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/football/football_records_book/2007/2007_d1_football_records_book.pdf at pg 52).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Right above Blocked punts section title is an explanation for all blocked kicks (punt, FGs and PATs).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
For Trucks, so long as the rationale is good and you explain why a free use image would be very difficult to obtain (in the future it may be marked as replaceable by someone), then it should be fine. As for Art, you can help if you want, I don't have any problem with it. Wizardman 20:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations! · AndonicO Hail! 12:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I got a GA on hold at Talk:Tyrone Wheatley. There are a couple of reviewer concerns that might be aided by your resources:
With respect to the latter of the above, since he was a high school state champion in four events and a big ten champion in only one, it is interesting to figure out if he ran more than one of the four events in college and if his All-Big Ten award was merely for hurdling or for a combination of events. Can you help with this?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 12:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
--Wizardman 04:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I found the UofM track record book, which helps beef up both Butch Woolfolk and Tyrone Wheatley. I am unable to tell for sure whether Woolfolk continued to run track in 1981 and 1982, but am claiming team championships for him at this time.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 01:41, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
--Wizardman 20:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
--GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 10:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
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You may want to take a quick look at Talk:Mercury Hayes. I have tried to respond to a GA on hold, but may have fallen short because it has not been promoted and is on the sixth day of a seven day hold. If you have anything that you can add to improve the article it would be helpful. I am also worried about Jon Vaughn because I could not address all the concerns in the GA on hold review.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Ahhhhh... sorry bout that! I have been assessing all the Green Bay Packers articles for WikiProject Green Bay Packers and after assessing like 600 I figure one mistake is doing good, lol! I must have pasted in the wrong assessment once, and then copied them for the rest of the WikiProjects. I reassessed it to B-class which I think is a fair assessment. Thanks for catching my mistake and good luck editing!
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 21:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the (very small) issues to be addressed. Great work again! Ealdgyth | Talk 14:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 16:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I love seeing the Yooper article on DYK! --Royalbroil 04:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Your most recent work (Ralph Heikkinen, Gogebic Range, and Stanfield Wells) are up to your usual standards. You may want to be more aggressive in finding images for the articles other than the main subject. The most important difference in my current WP:FAC (Prairie Avenue) in its seemingly successful second attempt and its first attempt is the added images. You have many GA shoe-ins that might be FAs with some related images and minor tweaks. You should keep nominating things for GA.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:14, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the (very small) issues to be addressed. Great work again! Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. Ealdgyth | Talk 15:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I gotta ask, how many Wolverine Football players do ya'll have in waiting? Ealdgyth | Talk 22:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
As per usual, the notes are on the talk page. Questions, concerns, etc. can be addressed to my talk page, or the article talk page. Ealdgyth | Talk 18:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC) Oh, and you might want to consider archiving your talk page.. it's getting a bit big. Ealdgyth | Talk 18:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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