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Hello BhaiSaab. Can you get me some diffs please. I seem to be inundated with Indian related requests more than the Indian admins, so it would be good if I didn't spend three hours everyday trawling through every single edit of everybody who is lodging a complaint or is complained against. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 01:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC).
Hi there. I've replied to the latest bunch of stuff on my talk page. Also, please do not try and bait Bakasuprman, as occurred at User_talk:Holywarrior. thanks,Blnguyen | rant-line 05:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
In Response to your messgae to me: Brother you want a source in the Quran?, okay give me the sura where it says how to perform Salat? can't find it? of course because it was given to us from the Prophet (saw) and the imams (as) If you are to strip Shahadah from its unique place then you must strip it from the five pillars of Sunni Islam. Secondly nabuwwah is different and is relavent because if i were to say i believe in one god ans Jesus is his messenger then am i muslim? i do not think so. thus Shahadah is unique from tawhid and nabuwwah and deserves its own position.
Shahadah This article is unique, Tawhid and nabuwwah do not satisfy the definition of Shahadah because Shahadah states one particular prophet, whilst nabuwwah is the belief in all of God's prophets. "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is His Prophet". This declaration of faith is called the shahadah.
Here is a question, are you trying to say that the declaration of faith is not present in Shi'i Islam? and do not use tawhid and nabuwwah as it breaks down because what makes a muslim different from a christian or a jew fundamentally is the belief in the Prophet Muhammad (saw) Al-Zaidi
it is present but not categorised hmm i see so it is not a fundamental. interesting that the core concept of Islam is not present in your readings of Shi'i Islam. Then you mean to say that if i look at the categories of Shi'i Islam i can say that they are hanifs? because the hanifs are monotheists and believe in the prophets but have no central prophetic concept with Ibrahim al-Hanif as the christians with Jesus and Muslims with Muhammad. so what is the different between the hanifs and the shi'is? it can't be the imams because that is the difference with the sunnis. so? where is the core distinction of Shi'is if declaration to one god and to Muhammad is not present? The root of Shi'i Islam is not the belief in Muhammad as God's last messenger as the sunnis? this seems to be a bias against Shi'is.
If the Shi'is according to you satisfy this in the third root Nabuwwah, risalat, then please explain why Sunnis do have both Shahadah and nabuwwah, risalat? there is a difference? obviously yes there is. Secondly when it comes to the belief in the prophet muhammad Shi'is just as sunnis believe him to be the last and the prophet of their religion. so either you take shahadah out of the five pillars of sunni islam or you add it to the roots of religion of Shi'i Islam.Al-Zaidi
some vandels are trying to decrese the population of muslims in different nations please see 2 that—The preceding unsigned comment was added by One2one (talk • contribs) .
Hi BhaiSaab. As long as we have this cat, he belongs in it. As you probably know, Ahmadinejad was widely condemned for this. ←Humus sapiens ну? 21:24, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
You reverted my bot's edits to this page. (). I realize that the change was likely in error, but I wanted to caution you to be a little more careful about reverting legit edits when removing content. Thanks! alphaChimp laudare 22:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. - This is in response to your attack on me and D-boy for our AfD votes. Bakaman Bakatalk 21:29, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Prove it. BhaiSaab talk 22:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Prove what? making shoddy PAIN cases, going through all my contribs. That's proof enough. Also see WP:AGF. I believe you harrassed D-boy here .Bakaman Bakatalk 01:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Now might be a good time to let things settle a bit. After everyone has time to cool off it will be easier to continue. Tom Harrison Talk 21:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be better not to respond to claims made by another user in this case unless there is a diff. I do check things carefully before I came to a conclusion. See my comments on my page to that effect. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 03:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC).
BhaiSaab, one of the diffs presented as evidence for my incivility was directed at you. While it's been several months since we've been in conflict, please take note of my apology.Timothy Usher 00:02, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
What's up with the Mutaween questioning? That is not my IP address.--CltFn 03:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
There is a discussion on Roles of non-combatant State and non-State actors in the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict talkpage about the inclusion of detail for Israel. I am of the view that Israel should be included but the detail is being continually removed by User:Tewfik.
Tewfik's argument is what he considers the illegality of Hezbollah under UN 1559. How this has a bearing on a balanced representation of aid to the combatants is never made clear. Tewfik has not removed recent requests of arms sales to Israel such as jet fuel and GBU-28's but removed the history of such arms shipments. I believe he is pushing the POV that aid to Israel is only in response to the current crisis or the illegality of Hezbollah under 1559. US aid to Israel is in fact a long standing agreement responsible for the size and makeup of the IDF. Without the aid they would not have a military capable of engaging in conflict. This is a question of balance in the article and if you can take a look and support my position (was working under 82.29.227.171) that would be great. RandomGalen 17:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
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Yeah the Babri Mosque was destroyed 10 years prior to the burning of the train. Doesn't really make sense for it to be a response when they already had the 1993 Mumbai bombings etc.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I could post the link to the puja article. Most people who would look at this probably have an idea of what a puja is, and mandir is also a wiki article.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. I thought it was part of the onlinevolunteers.org link. Put it back in if you want.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:22, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
The court proceedings are unsourced. Therefore I removed it. Also, many historians (including Muslim ones like Shaykh Muhammad Azamat Ali Kakorawi Nami, Mirza Jan and Abul Fazl) have stated proof of a Ram mandir on the site of the disputed structure. Keep in mind that Muslims destroyed Hindu temples, and Babar's legitimacy would have been greatened by destroying the greatest temple in North India. Bakaman Bakatalk 20:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Muslim prayers (prior to the tearing down of the disputed structure) weren't held there for at least 20-30 years. It ceased its utility as a Mosque. And a long line of historians/religious leaders/scribes of sultans have noted that a Ram temple had stood there. ITt only disputed by Hindu-haters among Muslims, who would like people to believe that tearing down one mosque is oppression of 140 million people. Bakaman Bakatalk 23:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi BhaiSaab!
Thanks for that! Um, if you email me using the "email this user" link, I'll email you back with my email to which you can send the image as an attachment. Is that confusing? Anyway see how you go. --Fir0002 00:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Islam-related articles). Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 19:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Please look at New York Times. Grey lady is used there and NYT is regarded in the US as a "ultra-liberal" newspaper.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Right...BhaiSaab talk 05:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Both of you have been blocked for 15 mins for continually sticking unnecessary tags to one another's pages. As I said earlier, as serious contributors, please take the courtesy to spend 2min writing a couple of sentences stating your concerns. Blnguyen | rant-line 05:11, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I see no personal attacks.Timothy Usher 05:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Was this a personal attack? I'm sorry if you thought so.Netaji 18:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.Bakaman Bakatalk 20:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
You are clearly aware of the Three Revert Rule and appear to have broken it at Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh. Remember that it is any for reversions on one article; they need not be the same reversion.
You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. |
--Robdurbar 22:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
BhaiSaab (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I'm absolutely sure I did not violate 3rr on Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh. Please point out the diffs if so.
Decline reason:
Deliberatly editing to technically avoid breaking the rule - by actions such as using different tags - is still breaking the rule --Robdurbar 22:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
gladly:
5>3 ST47 22:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
The third and fifth diffs are not mine, nor is the 1st. BhaiSaab talk 22:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I count the reverts as so:
BhaiSaab talk 22:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
From the admin who blocked you: , , ,
After that you repeatedly added tags to the article. This appears to be a way to disrupt the article without technically reverting the 3RR and was enough, in my mind, to warrent a short block. --Robdurbar 22:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I do think that under its wider interpretation, a block on the basis of the Three Revert Rule (which notes that it is not a licence to revert 3 times) was appropriate. However, I have listed this at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, as I am still an admin newbie. --Robdurbar 22:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Since this appears to be a second 3RR offence, and seeing as though Netaji is also on a second offence, I feel it necessary to extend your block to 24 hours also for equality. Both of your did some content reverts and then did some tag reverts, so the nature of the edit-warring was the same also. Blnguyen | rant-line 01:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'm sorry about my wrong comment. As to your earlier comment about technically breaking the rule - I did not intend to judge that at all, but the fact that Netaji also got 24hrs for a "2nd offence" - Rob seems to be under the impression that yours was the first, which was incorrect. I am not going to dispute his judgment call, as it is a judgment call, but he seems to have derived a formula for the block length, and seeing as he appears to have missed something while applying the formula, I have readjusted. Blnguyen | rant-line 02:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
The sentence in question is conjecture. The intro to his book , does not equate that he was a pious Muslim , it only equates to the fact that he made a statement, as many other writers during that time did . We cannot interpret what the statement equates and call that a fact. Perhaps you could take a look at the short Intellectual dishonesty article.--CltFn 01:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Its not a daring statement. All the Muslims side are allegations, they have not provided any proof that the structure was not a temple at some point in time before Babar destroyed it and put the mosque (not even a functioning one for prayers) in its place.Bakaman Bakatalk 18:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Netaji 22:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. Netaji 22:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I guess I turned out to be right: User_talk:Blnguyen#Removing_Sockpupeteer_Box BhaiSaab talk 21:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
It appears that you have blocked the three revert rule again - four or more times on the page in question, in 24 hours, you removed or aprt remoeved another editor's actions. Please avoid edit wars in future. THe block is for 24 hours - any future blocks may be longer. --Robdurbar 08:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, it appears that I miscounted on the last block; sorry. However, I strongly adivse that you try and avoid such edit wars - you have certainly come very close to four reverts (and may, under some interpretations, have done so). I had hoped that your last block might have encouraged you to be more careful. --Robdurbar 10:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
It is very difficult to be careful when one editor is dealing with a confrontational pack of two or more editors on articles. This was the second time you have miscounted, and I suggest you check the diffs next time before making a decision. Thank you for taking Netscott's advice and unblocking me. BhaiSaab talk 16:20, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Forgive my language by MY are you one popular bastard! :-D—The preceding unsigned comment was added by MikailMoolla (talk • contribs) .
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