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Unless it’s a personal attack. Doug Weller talk 20:58, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- lede -> lead [] is same. my section was removed by the other person and merged [] to his. so i dont see what the problem is Astropulse (talk) 21:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi Astropulse, I think it's still a bit too early to mention SearchGPT in the lead section of the article on OpenAI. But maybe one day, if it's fully released and has significant notability, it would be good to change the sentence "As a leading organization in the ongoing AI boom, OpenAI is known for the GPT family of large language models, the DALL-E series of text-to-image models, and a text-to-video model named Sora." into something like "As a leading organization in the ongoing AI boom, OpenAI is known for the GPT family of large language models, the DALL-E series of text-to-image models, a text-to-video model named Sora and the search engine SearchGPT." Alenoach (talk) 21:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- MOS:LEAD lead section is an introduction to an article and a summary of its most important contents. It gives the basics in a nutshell and cultivates interest in reading on. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies.
- It doesn't need to be significant notability. just notable. It launch has received lots of attention and is worth mentioning in lead Astropulse (talk) 22:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I saw that you wrote an appeal, but withdrew it. I think the withdrawal was the right choice. Don’t focus on other editors in sanction appeals, it usually isn’t helpful. At this stage, just accept the temporary block and move on. Don’t violate 1RR again, and when an admin at a noticeboard suggests for you to do something, I advise you follow it. starship.paint (RUN) 03:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- i have not withdrawn it. I placed it in the arbitration noticeboard. Astropulse (talk) 03:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, pardon my oversight. That’s a strategic mistake, in my view, you have very little chance of success and you are just risking a harsher sanction. It’s not as if you were sanctioned very harshly in the first place. starship.paint (RUN) 05:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- 7 days is harsh. policy recommends 24hrs for such violation for first time. Such enforcement must be only taken is there is disruption to wiki. Infact there is none. Most of my changes still is on that wiki and is not reverted. Thanks Astropulse (talk) 10:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Astropulse Where did you get that idea? Doug Weller talk 10:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller @Starship.paint@ScottishFinnishRadish
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy
- Block should be preventative and not punitive.Blocks are used to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia. Like i mentioned - there is nothing preventative of this block. There was not even an edit warring. There was some disagreement about my changes. Other editors and myself improved it.
- WP:3RR also says Editors violating 3RR will usually be blocked for 24 hours for a first incident. Here it is just 1RR Astropulse (talk) 10:27, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's for normal reverts. This one is covered by contentious topics. Policies and guidelines are enforced more strictly in those areas. Doug Weller talk 10:48, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, I don’t think that’s correct. Where is it mentioned? I took a quick glance at this Wikipedia page and didn’t find it. In fact, this could have been handled with a warning rather than a 7-day block. Stricter policy enforcement shouldn’t mean that other policies are ignored or that harsher punishments are automatically given. Astropulse (talk) 10:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- It really says "Administrators should seek to create an acceptable collaborative editing environment within contentious topics."
- . Administrators are expected to use their experience and judgment to balance the need to assume good faith, to avoid biting genuine newcomers and to allow responsible contributors maximum editing freedom with the need to keep edit-warring, battleground conduct, and disruptive behaviour to a minimum. Astropulse (talk) 11:01, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Im a new editor. I have not acted in bad faith. The admin actions taken against me are punitive and not preventative. self-revert was not a good option here. I explained it in the arbitration noticeboard. Yet, a block was placed without any regard to the situation. Astropulse (talk) 11:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think many people would call you new. Doug Weller talk 12:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I learn as i go. Yes i started editing couple of months ago. But i dont do it every day. i don't know lots of things. Even experienced editors with tens of thousands of edits - still get it wrong. This is the first time such enforcement request is made against me. Instead of warning or 24hrs block - the admin choose to do 7 day ban. That's aggressive.
- Anyway its not end of the world. Just wanted to make my voice heard on this matter. Astropulse (talk) 20:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Self-revert not being a good option is your opinion. 1RR shows that the topic area is so contentious that even 3RR is not good enough to handle edit wars. If everyone doesn't keep to 1RR, edit wars will erupt all over. There are many possible lengths of sanctions. It could be a month. It could be indefinite. A week's partial block from one article is paltry. There's no guarantee that disruptive behaviour will stop - since you refused to cooperate. You should really take the loss instead of arguing. starship.paint (RUN) 12:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- if its only my opinion. why is most of the things i changed still there? anyone could have add it back. there is also consensus in talk page that NPOV is no longer required after my changes.
- 7 days ban is not end of the world. But i don't think you admins take lot of policies or context into account. Was there any disruptions? No. Even the editor in question who's edit i reverted - at first didn't really understand why this enforcement request was made. You can read their comments in enforcement page. Astropulse (talk) 20:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- And no edit warring here. There never was. Editor in question Hemiauchenia never made this complaint. It was made by someone else who wasn't involved in the discussions. If there were edit warring, then my changes would have been reverted. But its not. Only one change was reverted. Astropulse (talk) 20:28, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- That you don't understand that everyone believes that their version is the neutral POV, which is why it is not a WP:3RRNO exemption, and that you're still incorrect about what constitutes a revert demonstrates that the disruption would continue. Add to that a refusal to self-revert, and here we are. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish regarding your comment - that im still incorrect about what constitutes a revert. The policy states that " A series of consecutively saved reverting edits by one user, with no intervening edits by another user, counts as one revert." This is where we disagree. You say it is one revert. But its not. When there is intervening edits - it is not a single revert. The edit i reverted has intervening edits. They reverted mine and other people changes in one edit. Yet im the one being punished for violating 1RR
- Imagine this - i can go to a article- and revert changes my many users and call it a single revert. It make no sense Sir. Astropulse (talk) 20:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think many people would call you new. Doug Weller talk 12:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Im a new editor. I have not acted in bad faith. The admin actions taken against me are punitive and not preventative. self-revert was not a good option here. I explained it in the arbitration noticeboard. Yet, a block was placed without any regard to the situation. Astropulse (talk) 11:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, I don’t think that’s correct. Where is it mentioned? I took a quick glance at this Wikipedia page and didn’t find it. In fact, this could have been handled with a warning rather than a 7-day block. Stricter policy enforcement shouldn’t mean that other policies are ignored or that harsher punishments are automatically given. Astropulse (talk) 10:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's for normal reverts. This one is covered by contentious topics. Policies and guidelines are enforced more strictly in those areas. Doug Weller talk 10:48, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Astropulse Where did you get that idea? Doug Weller talk 10:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- 7 days is harsh. policy recommends 24hrs for such violation for first time. Such enforcement must be only taken is there is disruption to wiki. Infact there is none. Most of my changes still is on that wiki and is not reverted. Thanks Astropulse (talk) 10:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, pardon my oversight. That’s a strategic mistake, in my view, you have very little chance of success and you are just risking a harsher sanction. It’s not as if you were sanctioned very harshly in the first place. starship.paint (RUN) 05:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- i have not withdrawn it. I placed it in the arbitration noticeboard. Astropulse (talk) 03:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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