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The first tagging and assessment drive challenge is starting now for WikiProject United States Public Policy. If you'd like to participate, start using the new assessment system and the project banner to tag and rate articles that are related to U.S. public policy. There's even a small prize for whoever does the most assessment this week.--Sross (Public Policy) (talk) 17:46, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Amy. Thanks for adding the {{WikiProject United States Public Policy}} banner to Talk:Abortion. I'm pleased to see this new initiative, and hope you enjoy working with the editors here. I hope you don't mind, but I've moved the banner to the top of the talk page, to place it with all the other project banners. It might look as if it's disappeared at first sight, but it's actually inside a collapsed box (a "banner shell") that we use to collect up multiple project banners – it won't alter the functionality of the banner. When you tag other articles, I'd recommend you do it at the top of the talk page, next to any other project banners that are there. It's been our convention to do it that way, possibly because it removes any chance of the banner being archived by a bot if it archived the last thread on the page. Happy editing! --RexxS (talk) 01:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
{{RexxS|Msg from Amy|ts=21:51, 8 July 2010 (UTC)}}
Yes, I am very interested, intrigued even, and also somewhat flattered by the invitation. I spent the last day looking into the project's plans, scope, and methods, as well as what articles are presently included, and the many I see that are not. At the moment though, I am still assessing the level of involvement which I can commit to this significant project. Saying yes and acting on such productive things are not necessarily the same. I want to come in with all eyes open; I already know that much of this is new to me, and therefore requires even more time spent learning what to do and how to do it well. Thus far my involvement/commitment to Wiki Projects has been self-motivated; I edit/post what seems most productive within the realm I have chosen, and where that leads. I guess in part, it led to your invitation. May I ask which edited articles you saw, and what made you notice; the latter is self-generated project feedback.
I consider becoming involved to be mutually beneficial, to provide a broadening and more global approach to my edits and those of others, as well as to be an NPOV-learning experience. At the same time, I am not broadly a 'policy' guy; only general aspects of this project are currently intriguing from a knowledge base, and fit well into my edit history, but that could change. In my area of particular interest, I very much see the need for improvement, particularly in the areas of comprehensiveness and sourcing. As evidenced by the color, I also see some gaping holes in Wikipedia's encyclopedic coverage; I know there are widely RS'd reasons for this, as well as its nonexistence being part and parcel of the real world, and mirrored in Wiki-experience.
Initially, I would like to add articles to the project, learn more about categories and formatting, and make some dry-runs at assessing compared to some existing assessments. Once I understand the process better, I'll feel better about delving in as part of something else. After the above questions are answered, maybe a few others, and a couple of days think-time, I will likely commit on the appropriate page, should my comments still allow compliance with your requirements. Warmest Regards, CasualObserver'48 (talk) 09:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi SilkTork, I am so excited that you have some interest in article assessment on this project. I am looking for a group of about 20 people both public policy experts and Wikipedia experts to evaluate about 10-20 articles every 2 months. The articles would range in class so I am guessing the time commitment to be about 2.5 hours every 2 months. (You would probably have a better idea of this than I would, and I assume it would vary somewhat between assessors.) I would really appreciate any input you have on the evaluation plan. The first assessment package is designed to test variability within the assessment metric for the WikiProject: U.S. Public Policy, which is a version of the 1.0 assessment metric. It is totally planned, it just needs 10 or preferably 20 people to assess articles. If you are interested I am open to describing the statistics and methods that will be used to measure variability. Also, I am new to Wikipedia, so please feel free to coach me if I misstep, and know that it is not intentional. hopefully we'll be in touch, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 00:02, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Your external link to outreach.wikimedia is incorrect; for external links do not use a pipe ("|") between the URL and link text, use a space instead. Thanks. Nifboy (talk) 22:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Amy, thanks for the info. Recently, I read something about the Public Policy Initiative and I think it is an excellent program to improve the quality of information on Wikipedia. I'm glad to know it is now a concrete reality and I hope it will be extended to other topics in the near future. I do not have much time, but I signed up on the interest list and I hope to contribute to this program. Cheers. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:39, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
At some point you're going to want to evaluate how your summative assessment criteria line up with the WP1.0 'hurdle' criteria. As an exercise, I had a look at one of the unassessed USPPI articles: AARP. I've done a WP1.0 assessment on the talk page, but not amended the project template, so if it gets reviewed via USPPI criteria, we can have a look at how the two compare. If you'd prefer, I can remove my assessment from the talk page, so as not to bias another reviewer or encourage inappropriate comparisons. It will still be visible in the talk page history, so you can look back if you want to make use of it. Any thoughts? --RexxS (talk) 00:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Amy,
On my assessment page, do you want me to replace "1 July 2010" with the date I rated each article (I did this with the Homeland Security Act)? Thanks and God bless!
Canon Law Junkie §§§ Talk 19:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 21:22, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
I got your note; I am out of the house all evening (I'm in the US, on east coast time) so I don't think I'll be able to get to anything till this weekend, but should be able to look then. I look forward to helping out. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 20:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
First of all, I would like to wish you all the very best for the rest of your pregnancy. I read about it on the project talk page. British author Caroline Norton wrote that maternal love is "the only love which, on this teeming earth, asks no return for passion's wayward birth" and this is so true.
I have some ideas and suggestions, and a few questions about the Public Policy Initiative Assessment Team. I will write something about this on the Assessment talk page very soon. I'm working on it, but I'm not ready yet. Maybe in a couple of hours or days. Best regards. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
No, no, it is the opposite, I am not discouraged (^___^), but as Aristotle said: "well begun is half done"!
Hip hip hooray, I found my assessment page (^___^)!!! Yesterday, I saw my username in the list at the bottom of the assessment page, but I have not checked the link /o\. I thought it was the link to my user page on Wikipedia, and that the members pages linked to the project assessment had not yet been created.
Anyway, I did the first review and I hope to do the rest very soon (maybe in the next week or so.)
Take care and all the best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:08, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Amy! Hope You are OK!
Thank you for taking the time to write to me.
I know about all of this because I've WP:USPP's pages on my watchlist.
I read the comments by other assessors and editors on the project talk page and some of them are very interesting. I hope to make a "valuable" contribution to the discussion as soon as possible and as soon as I've some new and fresh ideas. Yes, the discussion is very interesting and there are some good points. I have also read your reply regarding my proposal to carry out a base-10 ratings system. The fact is that I'm a "FAN@ic" and I'm positively "obsessed" ~ hahaha ~ by control loop feedback mechanism (closed-loop controllers in control theory and others) and I would like to apply it everywhere. Don't give a monkey's about this! ~ lol
I also know the article feedback tool and I had already seen (and used) it in the past. I've also used it in all the pages I've reviewed. In my opinion it is very well done and works fine. I use a single login across the majority of the Wikimedia Foundation's projects, so I can contribute with my opinions and suggestions directly on the MediaWiki website.
I left the {{USPP}} at the top of the articles' talk pages unchanged because I think it would be better to wait until all the results are in, and then to work out an average figure to put in. I hope that the method I used for the assessments is correct. In addition to the ratings, I have added a brief description of what is "good" and what is "not good" for each assessment area.
I think that academic circles would become more involved if the quality of the articles is high, but we do what we can and we work with what we have.
Please, keep me informed about future developments. I will check the project's pages out periodically (2–3 times per week) and post my ideas and suggestions on the project's talk page.
All the best and thanks again. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Pjoef, I am well, thanks for asking. I did find out though that I will be having a c-section. Baby is breech and has no intention of moving, I sent most of a day at the hospital trying to turn her, she wasn't having it, but this allows me to have a better idea of my schedule. I am glad to hear you are giving some input on the article feedback tool, some of my coworkers will be very excited about that, one or more of them may contact in the next couple of weeks. I have a question I want to ask to the group of Wikipedian assessors: Does Wikipedia kind of self-regulate on article assessment by typically requesting that Wikipedians with expertise in the subject area are the ones to assess artile quality? Or is assessment typically done by Wikipedians who have experience in assessment? I will put this on the assessment talk page, but let me know what you think. thanks ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 01:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I would love to help, but as I mentioned, my knowledge is mostly in medical policy, though I could help elsewhere. Also, is there a list of articles to be reviewed? Ronk01 talk 23:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I've completed my first lot of homework. I wasn't sure if I needed to do anything else to let you know that it's done? Cordless Larry (talk) 11:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I unfortunately need to rescind my offer of participation in this project due to scheduling problems with work, etc. I wish everyone else the best of luck in this endeavor. Lord Psyko Jo (talk) 13:22, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
I was asked to review War on Drugs. I am seeing right now that it gets edited everyday, a few times a day, but seems pretty active. Should we substitute it? -- DQ (t) (e) 02:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Amy. In addition to evaluating media policy articles, I'd also be interested in technology policy. - kaeh4 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC).
MDSanker, you signed up to assess with WP:USPP. If you are interested in public policy or assessment, check out your assessment page, because there is a lot happening on the project. Most of the recruitment for the assessment team was targeted, so I know you have a lot to offer to the research goals of this project. I posted the second assessment request and there will now be a weekly update on the project assessment page. If you are no longer interested in working on this project, I promise this is the last message you will get, but I hope you decide to check it out. Regards, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 01:25, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Amy,
I am very happy to hear from you.
I'll do my "part" before the deadline of 5th January 2011.
Many-many thanks for the wishes. I hope the new year brings you what you wish for.
Take care and all the very best to you and your family. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:02, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Pjoef, Have a great New Year's! - ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
--Kumioko (talk) 02:17, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Amy, I've done a few more, and so have others. There are no articles left with only one review, but there are eleven articles with only two reviews. Do you need a third review on these? Mike Christie (talk – library) 03:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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Hey, thanks for dropping me a line. My main project right now is WikiProject: Law on Wikisource. I won't be able to contribute much time to your public policy initiative, but if there's a small part I can play, I'd be happy to help. LegalSkeptic (talk) 14:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi ARoth, just letting you know that I am a little busy with personal stuff right now, so my activity here on Wikipedia will be limited in the foreseeable future. I will try to look at the project stuff if and when I have time. --Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 13:16, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Amy! Yes, I will be attending Wikimania. Please let me know if any help is needed... as long as it doesn't entail public speaking. :) Bejinhan talks 03:57, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello Amy,
I hope things are going well for you and your family.
I've just assessed the first seven articles of WP:USPP Assessment 2.1, but if you need more assessments, please don't hesitate to leave me a message on my talk page around a week before the deadline, and and I will also assess the remaining articles.
Regarding Wikimania, well, I have never participated in, and my free time is very limited, but I have heard good things about Wikimania, and who knows the future ... surely it would be nice for me to attend one of these conferences.
Take care and all the very best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
I've done a few and will watchlist that page and see if you are short of reviews; please feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you want further reviews done. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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Oh Amy, these are all good news.
I'm glad that the projects, PPI and AFT, are going well. And, I am very glad to know that I can help in some way.
I will work on the second round immediately. I'm curious to see the improvements to the articles.
About the experts "thing", I really think that we all and Wikipedia really need their contributions and effort to raise the standards. I will welcome them with open arms. By the way, I am also a member (not so active) of the Welcoming committee here on Wikipedia, so it is an honour and a duty.
That's all for now. Thanks again. Take care and all the very best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Amy, I think it might be a good idea to recruit a couple more assessors. Currently there are about half a dozen active assessors; if you want three assessments of 55 articles you'll need each of us to do almost thirty, which is a much bigger load than we've had to do before. We're getting faster, I'm sure, but it would be a good idea to bring in a couple of extra people before you burn out any of the current ones. I'm fine with that workload so long as it doesn't have to be fast, and I don't want to speak for the other assessors -- they may be happy to crank it up and do fifty apiece. But more resources in reserve is usually a good plan. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey Amy, I've finished assessing most of the articles needing assessment. Let me know if you need more help. Regards, Yes Michael? •Talk 05:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Amy, just wanted to express my interest in your research and to let you know that if I can help contribute, please do let me know, may I wish you every success! User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 20:32, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 21:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm MikeBeckett if I can help ask! 22:28, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Amy, I hope you are well too. Unfortunately, politics can be quite a nuisance sometimes. I'll be checking out the assessments now. Best, Bejinhan talks 05:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Amy,
I hope you are well.
There is a problem with the link to Broadcasting Board of Governors in Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_States_Public_Policy/Assessment/Student_Post_test_2.2#Broadcasting_Board_of_Governors. It points to another article (and version): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prometheus_Radio_Project_v._FCC&oldid=430819394 (Prometheus Radio Project v. FCC).
All the best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello ARoth, sorry I haven't talked to you in a while. I have been very busy with some real-life problems and I have not had time to contribute much here. I will try to have a look at these articles if I have time. --Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 00:59, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
RE: Latest Public Policy Assessment + YuMmY CuPcAkE
Thanks Amy for the kind words and for the CuPcAkE. It was really delicious. I hope to have been of some help to you and students. And yes, please keep me informed about the results. I remain at your disposal to help in any way I can. Take care and all the best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 17:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Amy! You're welcome! Thanks for working on the assessment project and thanks for the cupcake! Looking forward to reading the results! All the best, Bejinhan talks 12:58, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
This may be of possible interest:
Also, the section farther down that page called, "New models for Wikiversity, Wikinews, Wikibooks, etc.". --Timeshifter (talk) 14:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
playin' with WikiLove.
Annie Lin (Campus Team Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 22:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Amy,
these are good news. Thank you for keeping me informed, it's very much appreciated.
I am happy to know that your efforts are bearing fruit. The article on FastCompany is very interesting, even if it is something that I already know. The "distrust" that the academic world (or part of) has for WikipediA is a problem that is slowly fading away. I hope that a greater cooperation with the educational system (schools, colleges, universities, academics, professors, students,...) may take the place of this state of distrust, suspicion, diffidence, and indifference very soon. I am proud to have participated and contributed (modestly) to the success of this experiment-initiative, and I remain at your complete disposal for any future development and need.
About the "Wikipedia in Higher Education Summit", well, I can only wish you a very happy and fruitful weekend in Boston.
All the best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
P.S.: There is no need to send me Wikipedia's swag, but, can I ask you which quote you're using for your email signature? I'm curious (^____^) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:10, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Another "ditto" here! I'm looking forward to reading the research results! =) Bejinhan talks 10:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Amy. 140 (56 new) articles increased both in quality (B-Class) and size (8.8 million bytes), 800 students plus some policy experts graduates of universities participated to the initiative and made a great contribution to Wikipedia... these results seem to be really quite good. Thank you Amy and please keep me informed! Best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:33, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
I found your research report on the educational articles improvement on one of the WMF sites, and got to your page here, but now I can't find that wiki or your report. Could you provide a link? Thanks, MathewTownsend (talk) 00:35, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hello ARoth (Public Policy Initiative): Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:20, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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May the New Year bring everything you wish for and more!
Wishing you and yours all the very best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:20, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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