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This template was considered for deletion on 10 April 2023. The result of the discussion was "no consensus". |
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Namespace links template. |
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To help centralise discussions and keep related topics together, Template talk:Pagelinks, Template talk:Lx, Template talk:La, and talk pages of templates that transclude {{Lx}} redirect here. |
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The result of the move request was: moved. I've attempted to carry out all the moves, but feel free to leave me a message if there are any issues still outstanding. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
– I will start by acknowledging a previous RM in 2018 on this issue, but I don't see anyone in that discussion who actually cited WP:TMP and it has been 5+1⁄2 years.
Per WP:TG, Template function should be clear from the template name, but redirects can be created to assist everyday use of very popular templates.
I doubt that there are any editors who can guess what (to pick an arbitrary example) Template:Ln does without having read the documentation / seeing it used, so the current name is a clear violation of the guideline.
Using opaque names is no problem for experienced editors, but makes it slightly harder for newbies to learn what templates do (WP:BITE). The current names of these templates might not be the most pressing or largest problem facing Wikipedia, but it is certainly a problem worthy of a solution (in other words, this is not a solution looking for a problem).
Using obvious names also makes it easier to remember the names of these templates (see WP:TPN: Template names are easiest to remember if they follow standard English spelling, spacing, and capitalization (also see the naming conventions for articles)
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Of course, redirects would be kept and per WP:NOTBROKEN would not be bypassed to use the longer form.
Pinging participants at the previous RM: @BD2412, BrandonXLF, Crouch, Swale, Dreamy Jazz, Gonnym, JohnBlackburne, Locke Cole, Primefac, and Steel1943. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 21:11, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
– For the same reason as the above move (in a sentence, we should use descriptive names for templates while keeping redirects for everyday usage).
There is a slight issue with the proposed name: {{Template links}} already exists as a redirect to the (separate) {{Tfd links}}. However, it is only used 14 times (and at least one of those is not a real transclusion which would need fixing); we can always bypass the redirects in those 13 pages. I would also argue that there is a WP:SURPRISE factor to consider: {{Lt}} should follow the same naming convention as the other namespace templates.
Pinging participants in the earlier RM: @Steel1943, Crouch, Swale, BD2412, and Primefac. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 21:11, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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