Template talk:Infobox UN resolution

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Suggested Improvements

I have been thinking of adding such a template a while ago, so I'm glad that someone else did it. However, I have some suggestions to add more information to it:

• Indicate how each country has voted, maybe using color codes, a small symbol. But use something that won't disrupt or clutter the template.
• Add small arrows at the right and left top or bottom to navigate to previous or next resolutions.
• And one last thing, doesn't being a resolution implies that it is accepted? Eklipse (talk) 07:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

With regard to your last question, Eklipse, you may well be right that being a resolution does imply acceptance, but as this may not be obvious to every reader, it's probably desirable to say so explicitly. As some infoboxes do say so explicitly, and others don't, this may well confuse some readers, but if so I'm not sure how easy this would be to fix without having duplicate 'Resolution adopted' messages in many infoboxes, or a lot of work to clean them up - but maybe somebody might know how to do it using something like 'if voting figures are present and result=blank or missing then print Result=Adopted'. However I probably won't be attempting that unless it's clear that being a resolution does indeed automatically imply adoption.Tlhslobus (talk) 04:52, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

I concur. The template must represent how each member voted. It could perhaps replace both the composition and number of votes sections. Yes, I also think it is only a UN resolution once it has been accepted. Any objections/comments/better ideas? As for the arrows between resolutions, this would be in line with other like templates. Int21h (talk) 22:27, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be nice if this voting representation was made via the [hide] and [show] feature, so it doesn't clutter it. Pikolas (talk) 00:00, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

OK. Can anyone suggest templates with the requisite design? Int21h (talk) 16:10, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

On several occasions, I noticed that the vote results displayed with a very unpleasant line break, due to too much horizontal area needed for the words and the figures. Therefore, I propose to use maybe the symbols +, 0 , - instead of for abstention against....what do you think?--MarmotteiNoZ 10:00, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

• The template should indicate how many countries were absent during voting at the proceedings of the UN resolution. For example, in the case of United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19, 5 countries were absent. —JOHNMOORofMOORLAND (talk) 11:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks,JOHNMOORofMOORLAND. I have now added 'absent' as an optional parameter, and further changes have since been made to it by another user. You may wish to have a look at it to see if it satisfies your requirement, and if so to make use of it in various Resolution articles. I've now added the 5 absents in the article you mentioned. Tlhslobus (talk) 04:16, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Not all official records separate bring absent from present not voting. Add a parameter "nonvoting"?--Jusjih (talk) 16:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Date entry format

Unresolved

I'd like to add an hCalendar microformat to this template; but that requires a machine-readable date. In most infoboxes emitting hCalendar, this is achieved by having a single date parameter, capable of taking {{Start date}}. Would anyone object to this; or can anyone propose an alternative method? (Background at the microformat project.) Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 23:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

nudge. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:35, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Vote section

Do we really need the "cute" color-coded boxes in the "Vote" section? It gives the false impression of being some kind of bar graph, but the lengths of the boxes don't have anything to do with how many votes they represent. Plus, the "Abs" box is often "broken" and wrapped onto a second line, which just doesn't look right. I recommend doing away with the boxes and using colored text instead of a colored background. In particular, here's the line I would use right after the "Vote:" line in the template (my changes are underlined):

{{!}} <span style="padding:4px; color:#009900;">For: {{{for|}}}</span> <span style="padding:4px; color:#333333;">Abs.: {{{abstention|}}}</span> <span style="padding:4px; color:#990000;">Against: {{{against|}}}</span>}}

Not being bold and changing it myself, since this template is used on so many pages. - dcljr (talk) 03:40, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Wrong flag

I would like to change a flag of the no-permanent members, but I do not see how. The flag of Rwanda in 1994 is anachronistic. Please assist. Tomeasy _{T C} 07:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:56, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I should also mention that it might take some time for the cache to reflect this change; I had to manually purge a couple of articles to see the correct flag. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:59, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, that solved the issue. Tomeasy _{T C} 20:54, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Requested improvements (November 2012)

I am requesting that arrows are added under the title to direct users to previous and succeeded resolutions. For example:

1591 ← Security Council Resolution 1592 → 1593

By doing so, it may save some time when switching through resolutions. JC · Xbox · Talk · Contributions 23:46, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Pikolas (talk) 21:15, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Russia in 1991?

Looking at United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, I notice that Russia is listed as a permanent member in April 1991. I find this a little strange, given that the Russian Federation did not even exist at that time; the USSR did not dissolve until December of that year. The only 1991 resolution which would have been signed by "Russia" would have been United Nations Security Council Resolution 725 on 31 December. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 05:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I think that this would relate to the fact that the infobox is set up by members in a particular year, rather than by part of year. I don't know how to fix it, but at least now you know why. Number10a (talk) 12:30, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, Lothar von Richthofen. I expect that in this case it's an easily fixed error, as the Soviet Union officially ceased to exist at the literal end of 1991, so partial years should not come into it, unless one wishes to argue that Russian President Boris Yeltsin was de facto controller of the Soviet veto after the failure of the hardline coup attempt in August 1991, but that is debatable even for the last 4 and 1/3 months of 1991, and clearly wrong for the first 7 and 2/3 months, so I'm going to amend it to keep it USSR before 1992. Tlhslobus (talk) 18:21, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Done.Tlhslobus (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikisource link?

Would it be possible to add a wikisource link, link in {{Infobox Treaty}}? Thanks. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:13, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

I don't know a lot about templates, but this is how it looks by just copying over stuff from {{Infobox Treaty}} (If you don't see anything to the right, then {{X4}} has been cleared. Just revert to my last edit to see what it looks like). Do you mean possible technically, or if someone would object? Uglemat (talk) 16:29, 28 September 2017 (UTC)