Talk:Zinnia elegans
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Copywrite bot (CorenSearchBot) - it is true Floridata was used as the source - and is attributed but it was not copied --Michael Goodyear (talk) 16:53, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
- While the source was not copied, it does still closely follow the source throughout, which makes this a derivative work and still a copyright problem. For example, the current version of the article says:
The uncultivated plant is a coarse, bushy, upright plant growing to 30 in (76 cm) in height. It has solitary flowerheads about 2 in (5 cm) across on long stems resembling daisies. Opposite the flowerheads are sandpapery, lanceolate leaves. The petals are purple surrounding a yellow and black disc.
- while the source says:
The wild form is a coarse, upright, bushy annual, to 30 in (76 cm) high, with solitary daisylike flowerheads on long stems, and opposite, sandpapery, lance shaped leaves. The ray flowers are purple, the discs yellow and black, and the entire head is about 2 in (5 cm) across.
- I have bolded your words which are exactly the same as the source and in the same order. The unbolded words are largely either synonyms or rearranged slightly from the source. Please note that this is only an example, most of the article appears to follow the source too closely.
- While facts are not copyrightable, creative elements of presentation - including both structure and language - are. The less creative the expression, the looser copyright applies, but even so close paraphrasing becomes a great concern when there are long passages that include fragments of the original and the structure of the original is retained. The essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing contains some suggestions for rewriting that may help avoid these issues. The article Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches, while about plagiarism rather than copyright concerns, also contains some suggestions for reusing material from sources that may be helpful, beginning under "Avoiding plagiarism". VernoWhitney (talk) 14:12, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
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