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"The excellent level of preservation made it possible to deduce that he had been a prisoner of war sacrificed as a thank-offering after a victory. " No, this dramatic scenario is not warranted. I have substituted "The excellent level of preservation made it possible to deduce that he had been ritually hanged and respectfully consigned to the bog, not more than a hundred yards from where a ritually hanged woman had been found some decades previously." . --Wetman 20:32, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
"It appears, then, that Irminsul may have been a material anchor for Yggdrasil" — is it just me, or does this make no sense? ('material anchor'??) dab (ᛏ) 07:59, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I've read (maybe in Jung or Campbell) that Yggdrasil may also be a representation of the mind, with the trunk, boughs, etc. representing consciousness, and the roots the subconscious part of the mind.Zarathustra2101 06:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm just trying to dab Hel, but where it says Hel in this article, it is refering to a place and not a goddess. Hel is the goddess of the underworlds, Helheim and Niflheim, in Norse mythology, so could the person who wrote the intro be refering to the underworlds ruled by Hel? BlankVerse 15:17, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I am not an expert but I am a fan of Norse Mythology. I have always been taught that HEL (Loki's daughter) rules HEL, also called HELHEIM. One point that the first paragraph in the article states is that Asgaard is the top and Niflheim is the bottom of the tree. This is, in my understanding, incorrect. Asgaard (home of the Aesir) is the top but Hel is the bottom. Midgaard (loosely Earth) is in the centre of the tree with Muspell and Niflheim at the same level. Muspell and Niflheim (fire and ice, respectively) joined/collided/came together and Ymir the frost giant was revealed. Odin and his brothers (Villi and Ve)kill Ymir (their father) to create Midgaard. The two worlds of the fire and frost giants still remain on the same plane (for lack of a better term) with Midgaard. Loki (a half or full giant depending on what you read) has several children one of which is Hel. Because of Loki's deceit, Hel and her brethren are banished from Asgaard. Hel is sent to the land of shadows (HEL), also translated as land of mists, etc... - Jan 07,2007 --Cjlaundrup (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
kan eg få fakta?
Is this quotation correct, or should it be billowing fire? I don't know that it's wrong, just that it sounds suspiciously like a misquote. I haven't been able to find a reliable confirming source that isn't itself based on this Wikipedia entry. User:dodiad 21:40, 20 Aug 2006 (UTC)
Could someone please make the pronounciation easier to understand? I don't know how to interpret dictionary-style pronounciation keys. Something spelled out, such as
Guten Tag = GOOT-en Tahk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.243.100 (talk • contribs)
Yeah, could someone use English dictionary pronunciation? It doesn't do me any good to know how the Norwegians prounounce it.
ihg-dräh-sëll?
I could read that. I mean, for reals, ya'll, that's a weird looking word. TotalTommyTerror 15:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
It lists an IPA pronounciation, buts its wrong. it has a "y" but there is no "y" character in IPA (or at least there isnt on the chart on wikipedia). can someone provide a correct IPA pronounciation? Mloren 13:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
IPA [y] is a close front rounded vowel. Rhyolite (talk) 21:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, [y] is the rounded version of [i] (English long E), and is the correct pronunciation of the y in Yggdrasil. Whoever changed it to [i], please refrain from doing so.
I believe it is pronounced Ig-drah-sill. That's my thoughts, don't flame me if I am wrong. (Aurumpotestasest (talk) 18:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC))
Ygg is one of Odins names; "drasil" or drasill could mean, "dragging towards ill" -- the place Odin did some bade things. It should (also) be read as a geographical description. The name is mention in Voluspá and Grimnismál:
Ninum 11:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I would like to know. Presumably they had a name for him (or her). --128.135.24.230 00:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Not to disagree with the above, but still: You are probably looking for the eagle Hræsvelgr ("Corpse Swallower"), who "sits at the end of the heavens", with the hawk Veðrfölnir on his beak. This "end of the heavens", is the top of Yggdrasil. See the latter article. Strictly speaking, he is not an eagle, but a jötunn (giant) in the form of an eagle - he is the creator of wind. Here is an image. (Sorry about the 7 year delay in giving this answer, I first saw the question today) Clsc talk 23:20, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
What in referenced article prooving that the eagle isn't probably Hræsvelgr ? not told other Edda place hidden like giant shape in context of meaning. Would you give name to person who only wants speak bad about you like the squirel in tree always going to the eagle?
Yggdrasil spelt as Yggdrasill as 'Old Norse' is wrong. The -ll is a newer form, currently used in modern Icelandic, of the older -lur masculine ending. Yggdrasill is correct spelling as of current Icelandic, but not in old Norse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.149.24.225 (talk) 19:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
The Runestone image shown on this page displaying "Yggdrasil" is errnoneous; the Ockelbo Runestone is one of the Sigurd Runestones. It displays the tree into which the sword Gram was thrust by Odin at the beginning of the Sigurd story described in the Elder Edda and Volsungasaga. This image is misleading and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.242.118.130 (talk) 05:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
In the first sentence, it is stated that "the extra -/ is a nominative case marker." That's great, but what extra -/ ? Eleven even (talk) 10:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
The Dutch Wikipedia entry for this page has a section, unfortunately not listing any references, that claims that the tree wasn't an ash but a taxus. Anyone familiar with these views? Although as said not giving any references, it explains this claim in detail, with what looks at a first glance convincing evidence. Jalwikip (talk) 12:11, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Haelsa Bloodfox,
I am freyr-Ottar, you edited my comments on the basis that you assert Odin was hung - he wasnt.
Not one text anywhere says he was 'hung' eg with a rope - all the texts in fact relate to him being hung from Yggdrasil eg impaled with Gungnir.
This is why it says he was wounded to himself with the spear - the spear impaled him.
Odin was impaled on the tree as per so many northen gods eg Esus. The rope hanging story is a misinterpretation of the texts and symbolism by literalists not symbolists.
The word 'hung' relates to the fact that when viewed from Earth Cygnus/Odin on the summer solstice Odin appears upside down eg as the joker depicted on the tarot card.
This is what it says on the odin page of wikkipedia ;
Hávamál
In Rúnatal, a section of the Hávamál, Odin is attributed with discovering the runes. He was hung from the world tree, Yggdrasil, while pierced by his own spear for nine days and nights, in order to learn the wisdom that would give him power in the nine worlds. Nine is a significant number in Norse magical practice (there were, for example, nine realms of existence), thereby learning nine (later eighteen) magical songs and eighteen magical runes.
One of Odin's names is Ygg, and the Norse name for the World Ash —Yggdrasil—therefore could mean "Ygg's (Odin's) horse". Another of Odin's names is Hangatýr, the god of the hanged. Sacrifices, human or otherwise, in prehistoric times were commonly hung in or from trees, often transfixed by spears. (See also: Peijainen)
The fact he is called god of the hanged does not mean he was hung with a rope like mere mortals - he underwent a spiritual experience as a god through an impaling with his divine weapon ;
Rúnatal Rúnatal or Óðins Rune Song (Rúnatáls-tháttr-Óðins) is a section of the Hávamál where Odin reveals the origins of the runes, or of secret knowledge. It runs from Stanzas' 138 through to 165. In section 138, Odin describes his self-sacrifice (to himself):
Veit ec at ec hecc vindga meiði a netr allar nío, geiri vndaþr oc gefinn Oðni, sialfr sialfom mer, a þeim meiþi, er mangi veit, hvers hann af rótom renn.
I know that I hung on a windy tree nine long nights, wounded with a spear, dedicated to Odin, myself to myself, on that tree of which no man knows from where its roots run.[3]
Note ;
no reference to rope - but a direct reference to his spear wounding him - eg IMPALING him to the tree so he could absorb its essence by becoming part of the tree.
The wounding is an impaling.
Mortals and followers of Odin are hung with ropes - gods are impaled with a divine weapon upon a divine tree.
Odin was not hung with a rope - that is a misintepretaton.
Even if you insist he was hung with a rope that still means the star facts I have discovered are still correct as the symbolism relates directly to the astronomy.
Freyr-Ottar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.228.234 (talk) 10:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Haelsa,
It quite clearly states the opposite.
It says ' I hung' - which is no evidence at all of 'hanging' eg with a rope.
It means he hung eg was impaled and hung from the tree he was impaled upon.
Read this ;
http://www.englishrules.com/writing/2005/hanged-or-hung.php
Pictures can be hung, but people are always hanged.
It's an odd quirk of the English language. Here is a usage note on the word "hang" from the American Heritage Dictionary:
Hanged, as a past tense and a past participle of hang, is used in the sense of "to put to death by hanging," as in Frontier courts hanged many a prisoner after a summary trial. A majority of the Usage Panel objects to hung used in this sense. In all other senses of the word, hung is the preferred form as past tense and past participle, as in I hung my child's picture above my desk
In other words people are hanged with a rope and people are hung when a rope is not used.
'To be hanged' is a person suspended with rope and the wording would have to be ' I hanged for nine nights' if he had been suspended with a rope.
To be impaled is to be hung eg suspended from the spear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.218.250 (talk) 13:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Haelsa,
The so called 'established' ideas are wrong ;
1) In direct relation to the language used in translation as I have stated above and in relation to linguistic logic and the derivation of the word 'hung' itself
2) In relation to the interpretation of the actual events eg the fact that impalement is mentioned specifically - 'wounded with my spear' - whilst nothing with hanging as per a rope is mentioned at all.
3) The references to hanging and odin in other sources all relates to victims sacrificed to him - not 0one of those references relates as per his experience as per the runic initiation. He is the god of the hanged BUT NOT a hanged god - he is a hung god - as the interpretation of the runes on this site states in black and white.
4) The names of Odin as hanged god relate to the victims, again, of sacrifice
5) finally if wikkipedia is not a site for 'original research' - then does that mean that this in fact a site for no new developments in the field - or for anything for that matter.
No original research - can you please explain what that means - would that mean if a whole new discovery on some facet of odinic research was made then wikkipedia would not mention it ?
That is an absurd position for a site such as this to state. That is in fact a declaration that progress in this field is finished !
Is that a correct interpretation ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.230.240 (talk) 15:16, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Haelsa,
Actually I have to agree that you are right.
I have done some research and we are both right, and both wrong.
Odin is a hanged god, but he his not hung from the neck.
He is not impaled as no evidence confirms that as per a kenning for his name, though hints can be established but no direct reference to impalement.
It appears the wounding by the spear may be a symbolic wounding, such as the cuts that a shaman would inflict on themselves in order to release endorphins to achieve a higher state of consciousness.
Odin is not hung by the neck - The position he is in when he is hung is that he is hung by the foot / feet upside down.
I assumed the reference to the hanged god, was a reference to being hung around the neck - and this had to be wrong as it conflicts with the astronomical symbolism as Cygnus is upside down - and therefore Odin had to be upside down.
This meant he could not be hung BY THE NECK, and he had to have been hung up by his feet or foot in order for him to hang upside down.
The fact Odin was hung upside down is confirmed here ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanged_Man_(tarot_card)
Where it states that Odin was hung upside down by the foot - so he was a hanged god, but not a god hung by the neck.
This fits in precisely with the required symbolism of the astronomy.
Take your planesphere and set it for midnight on the summer solstice , JUNE 21ST.
Odin as Cygnus is due South
He is depicted with his arms outstretched HANGING UPSIDE DOWN in the sky. The Milky Way is Yggdrasill from which he hangs.
Therefore we now know the following ;
1) He was not hanged by the neck but by the foot - this fits in with the linguistic requirements that he 'hung' ( had not been though the experience of being hanged by the neck as per that of an execution )
2) That he was a 'hanged god' as he is a person (only people can be hanged, objects are hung) but that the hanging was not that of a physical description of a stereotypical execution hanging - the hanging upside down allows both linguistic terms to be satisfied - he was hanged as he was a person and at the same time he hung from the rope, which describes the physical position of the rope as not being around the neck.
He was both hung and hanged.
3) That Cygnus correctly depicts Odin in the right position - him being hung upside down with his arms splayed out and head down.
4) That he was wounded with his spear, but that more evidence is required for impalement (my theory).
5) That this proves Cygnus is a representation of Odin
Thanks for getting me to look deeper into this issue as by so doing you have confirmed that the theory of mine - Yggdrasill is the Milky Way - is correct as the Cygnus symbolism can now be said to be in accord with both the requirement for Odin to be hanged, but that he had to be hung upside down in order to fit the astronomical requirements.
Your scepticism has proved to be most useful.
Freyr-Ottar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.230.240 (talk) 16:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
More proof - human sacrifices were made to Odin up until the 10th century A.D. (by hanging them upside-down from gallows in a fashion similar to Odin's own self-sacrifice ).
There is also an interesting Esus / Odin link where Strabo reports seeing victims of Esus tied to a tree and arrows shot at them - therefore a symbolic representation of Ullr - Orion - firing arrows at Odin - Cygnus- on the Winter Solstice.
As an interesting little aside Carl Jung said that ideas are manifested in the wider consciousness of humanity - that ideas manifest as realities and that such coincidences are aspects of synchronicity.
I made the Odin - Cygnus connection about three or four days ago, and this weekend the following picture was in all the newspapers - that of the upside down hanged fool, a literal symbol of the idea -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2602238/Burglar-left-hanging-upside-down-after-trapping-shoelace.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.230.240 (talk) 17:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello guys, recently I removed the category category:Fictional trees from the article. This seems to be a category for trees in fiction. What we're dealing with here is a tree from mythology. A while back, I made a special category for the many trees in Germanic mythology and those otherwise attested as venerated by the Germanic peoples at category:Trees in Germanic paganism. This is basically a specialized subcategory of a few other categories, including category:Trees in mythology and category:Sacred trees, which I think are far more appropriate. :bloodofox: (talk) 16:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
What do you think of a section on the main page for "sightings"?
Recently, while playing LittleBigPlanet, there was a section called Yggdrasil... I had always pronounced it incorrectly until my wife said it (Pronouncing it like "ick-dra-sill"), which triggered where I had heard that word before, but my brain just hadn't made the connection.
Not only referenced in LittleBigPlanet, but I also remembered it mentioned in "Ah! My Goddess" The Movie.
Just a thought.... Gbaughma (talk) 20:13, 5 July 2009 (UTC) Greg
The Old Norse DID NOT contain the letter ö. The ö was the result of a merge of short ǫ and short ø (also written œ) and belongs only to the Icelandic branch. One should therefore maintain the difference between ǫ and ø, and not write ö when writing Old Norse. I therefore suggest to write Níðhǫggr and vǫlva instead of Níðhöggr and völva 88.91.12.177 (talk) 17:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
The current article uses the spelling Yggdrasil as opposed to the original Old Norse Yggdrasill. Google books reveals significantly more hits for Yggdrasil, therefore, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Norse mythology), this article uses Yggdrasil. :bloodofox: (talk) 07:31, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I have responded to your objections, several times. Please tell me what you think is incorrect in the IPA. Better yet, correct it, but don't delete it. That's not being reasonable or constructive. My presentation of pronunciation is not unreasonable for a lemma which exists in English and additionally refers to its pronunciation in a dead language. If you feel compelled to move the Old Norse pronunciation to the beginning, go ahead and do that, but don't delete it. That's not being reasonable. The lede should not only summarise the article; it should also present the article in a way that is easily understood by the general reader. If you don't stop deleting valuable information that is even well-sourced from reliable sources, you leave me no choice but to get help from an admin. That's not a threat, and definitely not childish; it's simply the only way that seems to be left to make you stop being disruptive and destructive. --Espoo (talk) 13:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words above, but edit summaries like This is still wrong - fix. You would save everyone a lot of trouble by familiarizing yourself with these subjects first show that you don't yet really welcome people to "your" article, though i appreciate that you're at least trying to learn to do that by at least saying it.
Your edit summary demonstrates an attitude that is the exact opposite of the probably most important idea of Wikipedia. That idea is to encourage contributions by everyone, even those who don't know a lot about the topic, even those who make mistakes by quoting something incorrectly. In this case, i didn't even really make a mistake because i simply copied the description of völva from its lede, which eventually made you realise that völva's lede was incorrect and so i eventually indirectly improved Wikipedia more than if i hadn't copied that lede's mistake. Unfortunately it first required lots of unnecessarily spent time and effort on my part and repeated reverts (mentioning vöva's lede!) of your unhelpful deletions of of the explanation of völva here in Y before you corrected völva's lede (and the same thing here in Y). In addition, that incorrect lede was your responsibility and therefore essentially your mistake because you had edited völva previously without correcting the "priestess" mistake there.
The dictionaries used as pronunciation sources are probably the best available sources on (US) English pronunciation; their expertise on pronunciation is not tarnished in any way by their necessarily simplified definitions of Y. In addition, though their definitions of Y (and similarly complicated things) are simplifications and therefore slightly "incorrect", they are perfectly suited to the needs of users looking for a quick explanation and in terms of style in fact much better than what we have so far.
Right now we have a cryptic "is the world tree" in the first paragraph, which says nothing to most readers, and an overly verbose and confusing description in the second paragraph. To make things worse, that description is "hidden" behind the comments about Poetic Edda, Prose Edda, and Snorri Sturluson, which unnecessarily adds to the confusion of the general leader and makes for a very badly written lede. The lede is supposed to give the general and casual reader a quick and succinct explanation within the first one or two sentences. I don't dare touch the lede again for fear of again arousing your ire, but perhaps you're willing to listen to and yourself use the above and following observations by a professional copyeditor.
When major dictionaries write a definition for Y, they start out by using the expertise of people who know much more about this topic than you probably do. They combine this expertise with that of experts on writing definitions and other experts on the needs and knowledge of general readers to make sure that the result is as close to correct without being useless or too verbose for general readers. So what looks like a sloppy and much too short description ("definition") to you is in fact a highly professional summary of lots of expertise and lots of time and effort. The same is true of the most prestigious encyclopedia, Britannica, which you seem to take great pleasure in putting down. You can be very sure that the people who wrote the first version of the Britannica entry know at least as much about Y as the dictionaries' experts. It's of course possible - but highly improbable - that some factual errors crept into the final version, but there may well be other sources that support that content, and in any case the general layout and style of the description is much, much better than ours.
When 2 of the perhaps 4 most prestigious English dictionaries in the world and Britannica use the following definitions, we'd be well advised to use a combination of improved versions of them as models in the first sentence (for example replacing "hell" with "underworld" or whatever would be more precise) instead of the kind of non-definition of our first paragraph and the "hidden" verbose rambling of our second paragraph:
In addition, we should talk about the Eddas and their authors after the reader knows what Y is. --Espoo (talk) 20:18, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Here's the current start:
I can live with this. Note that Askr Yggdrasils is correct - the second word is in the genitive, please don't remove the final s. I agree that "priestess" is not a good gloss for völva, "seeress" would be marginally better if we feel that we absolutely need a one word gloss. Haukur (talk) 18:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
When back-tracing disrupting edits on the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster talk page, I found out about similar ones on the Yggdrasil article and talk page.
Just so you know, from the IP log and from the garbled English, you're likely dealing with the same banned user (now sockpuppeter), Kay Uwe Böhm. See here (and quite a few other places) for some history we got with him.
I hope this helps, and good luck with KUB. He probably means well, but he's a real pain. ConradMayhew (talk) 08:50, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to point out that under the "Modern Influence", that the Etrian Odyssey Games are not mentioned, but the Dragon Quest games are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.192.10.70 (talk) 01:25, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Yggdrasil is the name of a space-going massive treeship in the Hyperion Cantos by author Dan Simmons. The treeship plays a pivotal role throughout the series, particularly in the first and last novels. It seems worth mentioning this in the final section of the page.
The Yggdrasil is also referenced in The Almighty Johnsons episode "Man-Flu", Season 2 Episode 8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.178.28 (talk) 05:50, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
All other Wikipedias as well as all the literature I'm aware of consider Y. to be an ash, yet suddenly here it became Taxus baccata with two recent unsourced edits. Just why? --77.236.203.210 (talk) 03:18, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
I will not be the judge of this, but the statement "All other Wikipedias" is not correct. The Scandinavian Wikipedias (as well as the Dutch, apparently, judged from above comment) mention other possible species, eg. Oak, and Yew (Taxus baccata). The Yew based primarily on the fact that the Yggdrasil is evergreen in the old stories. Ash is Deciduous (Oak is as well). Also, (as far as I recall) some local pre-cristian customs seem to have involved evergreen trees, among those the Yew. There is no certain answer as to the "right" or "wrong" species, although it is certainly called "Askr" (Ash) in Old Norse (this might be the name, and not the species, especially considering the poetic prose and the use of kennings. Ie. just like "a coke" in the USA could be any other soda, or like "Tea" is in fact a meal). I'm not going to edit it as any and all species seem equally uncertain to me (it is a world tree in mythology after all), so an Ash is fine with me, especially considering the name of it. Still, the discussion is relevant here - just don't expect an authoriative answer, like, ever. clsc 00:02, 8 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clsc (talk • contribs)
As far as I know, the yew tree theory is based upon W.H. Auden's poetic translation of Völuspá that mentions:
I know an ash tree, named Yggdrasil: Sparkling showers are shed on its leaves That drip dew, into the dales below, By Urd's well it waves evergreen
The original text reads:
Ask veit ek standa, heitir Yggdrasill hár baðmr, ausinn hvíta auri; þaðan koma döggvar þærs í dala falla; stendr æ yfir grœnn Urðar brunni.
An ash I know stands, named Yggdrasill, a high tree, sprinked with white honey-mold; from there comes dew which falls in the valleys; it stands forever over the green well of Urðr.
Cleary, "grœnn" references an Eden-like location that is eternally verdant, as is the tree standing over it, as honey-dew (which is only produced by deciduous trees) drips in the spring. Presumably, "evergreen" arose from a misinterpretation of "yfir" as "ever" and not "over". Moreover, there are other references in Indo-European mythologies to ash trees providing honey-dew as nourishment, most notably the ash-tree nymphs who nursed the infant Zeus, which this probably shares a common origin with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Badatom (talk • contribs) 01:26, 17 April 2017 (UTC) Badatom (talk) 03:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
In this section it is noted that "Continuing as late as the 19th century, warden trees were venerated ...". Using past tense is (probably unintentional, but still) misleading. It is a little premature to declare this phenomenon a thing of the past. AFAIK this custom continues to this very day, see eg Wikipedia (specific mention of one Warden Tree from 2008). Regarding Sacred trees, these are also still going strong, see eg Tree_worship#Sacred_trees, specifically the quote "Sacred trees remain common in India", the Bodhi tree, and the Glastonbury_Thorn. I suggest a slight rewrite of the section, so that the present existence of these customs is recognized, not denied. There's no need to make them appear more common than they are but they obviously still do exist, and so the article should reflect that. clsc 01:48, 8 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clsc (talk • contribs)
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Le passage dans lequel Odinn raconte comment il s'est pendu à Yggdrasill se trouve bien dans Havamàl mais ce n'est pas à la strophe 137.. En accord avec L'Edda Poétique de Régis Boyer (professeur de langues, littératures et civilisation scandinave à Paris-Sorbonne), c'est en effet la strophe 138 qui relate ce mythe. RomanSTEI (talk) 12:26, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi - the section "modern influence" should be split into sub sections "depictions" and "derivative works" .. a depiction of the tree as supposed Norse myth (eg bronze doors, paintings) is different from a modern work using the myth (and name) as an influence in a new creative work (eg Comics, D&D)
Also passing single page references in novels are probably not relevant.
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The red is mentioned in Jane Shaw's book about the Panacea society in Bedford relating to the large ash tree in the society hq garden where meetings were held. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.53.49 (talk) 13:11, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
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I'd like to propose an addition to the Modern influence section next to the Anime series "Rin". In the Japanese light novel Overlord "Yggdrasil" is the name of the video game the protagonist is trapped in. Bfrederix (talk) 22:39, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to propose an addition to the Modern influence section next to the Japanese novel "Overlord". "Yggdrasil" is the name of the Discord bot. Kosburrat (talk) 18:24, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Yes, any number of things in any number of computer games and fantasy stories have been called Yggdrasil. I don't feel confident in judging which mentions are notable enough to keep but this is cluttering the article a bit, as often happens with mythology articles. Maybe we should break off the popular culture section into a separate article? - Haukurth 21:09, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
the "popular culture" section is getting out of hand. It is warranted to export them. We had to take a similar path with References to Odin in popular culture. Nobody is "disrupting" or "deleting" anything. dab (ᛏ) 07:51, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
All instances except one of the name "Yggdrasill" in the Old Norse sources do not name the tree itself "Yggdrasill" but call it "The Ash of Yggdrasill"; presumably Yggdrasill is different entity from the Ash that is named after it. The name Yggdrasill probably refers to the Odin epithet Yggr, and "drasill" can mean "horse", so it's "The Ash of the horse of Odin". EliasHalldor (talk) 12:29, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
The redirect Yggdrasil (Dungeons & Dragons) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 5 § Yggdrasil (Dungeons & Dragons) until a consensus is reached. ltbdl (talk) 10:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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