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Please check out the entry of "Tanaka, Giichi" of Encyclopaedia of Britannica, The Columbia Encyclopedia, and so on.
They say Tanaka Memorial "has been shown to be a forgery", "proven to be a forgery", and so on.Kadzuwo 22:47, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
There are eight films listed. The Negro Soldier was the last added, so I guess it wasn't actually one of the originals? --Kiand 16:49, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
I have never heard of "The Negro Soldier." I bought a boxed set of these, which contained seven films. Desegregation is never mentioned in the seven, and I know that the army was not desegregated until 1948, after the war was over.
"The Negro Soldier" was a 1944 War Department film encouraging African-Americans to enlist. It is unrelated to the "Why We Fight" series.- mobo85
The Internet Archive has 8 Why We Fight films available for download here: http://www.archive.org/details/cinemocracy. They also have 5 other related films from other directors. -- Hoosemon (talk) 11:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
The article includes the word "propaganda" 15 times, in the body and from the sources. However, the purpose of the films as described by Capra, Chief of Staff Marshall, and most of the other sources involved with the creation, making, and distribution of the films never used that word. Nor are their statements cited anywhere. They generally and consistently used terms "war training films" and "war information films." Neither the word "training" or "information" is mentioned in the article. In fact, the stated purposes for the films, according to them, was to "counter" the hundreds of real propaganda films created by the Axis powers after WWI. Is there some need for balance in the use of the more subjective purposes, verses the objective impressions that the article focuses on, including the first sentence? --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 22:07, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've changed the it back to "documentary" from propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.243.98 (talk) 08:39, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- Totally disagree. How many times do you see the word "propaganda" in Pravda's stated purpose? Yet I doubt anyone would disagree Pravda was a propaganda outlet for the Kremlin. The owners of a spade will never call it a spade. I don't think referencing it as propaganda every time it's mentioned is apt, but treating American "war information films" as Holy Gospel is very, very silly and shows a strong American bias. 96.54.86.78 (talk) 04:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- It's fine to disagree and state your personal opinion. But unless it's cited, labeling something as "propaganda" needs a source, otherwise it's OR. Especially if used in the lead. --Light show (talk) 20:34, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- And if someone asked for a citation that the Volkswagen Jetta was indeed a car? There's nothing OR about calling "a film series intended to convince a population of the "neccessity of fighting a war"" propoganda — that's a synonym. Of course, if that doesn't please your highness, perhaps the citations later in the article stating that the series was essentially in lockstep with Soviet propoganda? You don't need a citation that the sky is blue, and right now this article has massive POV issues from the American side. 96.54.86.78 (talk) 09:02, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- The films were made by the U.S., which was then in the war, hence the title, Why We Fight. Had it been on the sidelines, a title like, Why We Sit and Watch, would have been from a different POV. The POV is implied. --Light show (talk) 17:15, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- And if someone asked for a citation that the Volkswagen Jetta was indeed a car? There's nothing OR about calling "a film series intended to convince a population of the "neccessity of fighting a war"" propoganda — that's a synonym. Of course, if that doesn't please your highness, perhaps the citations later in the article stating that the series was essentially in lockstep with Soviet propoganda? You don't need a citation that the sky is blue, and right now this article has massive POV issues from the American side. 96.54.86.78 (talk) 09:02, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- It's fine to disagree and state your personal opinion. But unless it's cited, labeling something as "propaganda" needs a source, otherwise it's OR. Especially if used in the lead. --Light show (talk) 20:34, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Totally disagree. How many times do you see the word "propaganda" in Pravda's stated purpose? Yet I doubt anyone would disagree Pravda was a propaganda outlet for the Kremlin. The owners of a spade will never call it a spade. I don't think referencing it as propaganda every time it's mentioned is apt, but treating American "war information films" as Holy Gospel is very, very silly and shows a strong American bias. 96.54.86.78 (talk) 04:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
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