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Acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together. However Bon Iver and Justin Vernon are two separate artists (in Billboard methodology). Vernon is not significant enough to be "significant to this artist's career". Ippantekina (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
'Cardigan' and 'Willow' were only successful in English-speaking countriesis not true, per the "Cardigan" and "Willow" articles themselves. While I agree that the ten singles listed do vary in popularity levels, I do not see a need for any of the singles to be removed.
[Swift's] artistry is more of an album artist– do you have a reliable source that backs this up? This seems like original research, and I don't think original research should be a factor in determining consensus. Moving on to the Justin Vernon comment, I definitely think he should be listed as an associated act. He (separate from Bon Iver and Big Red Machine) is credited multiple times on songs Swift is also credited on. He is credited for vocals on "Exile", "Evermore", and "Renegade" as Justin Vernon, not as Bon Iver or Big Red Machine. He is also credited as a writer, instrumentalist, and recorder on some of Swift's songs ("Exile", "Peace", and "Evermore"). Per one of the many interviews fellow Big Red Machine bandmate Aaron Dessner did to promote How Long Do You Think It's Gonna Last?, it was revealed that "Birch", an upcoming Big Red Machine song, is another Vernon/Swift duet, bringing the total amount of songs Vernon and Swift sing on together to four. Additionally, none of the Bon Iver members, except for Vernon, are credited on anything besides "featured artist" on "Exile" and "Evermore". The four credits are why I think they are associated acts. Thanks! D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 23:29, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
@BawinV: Original research? This speaks for itself. If they were one act why would there by a separate "Bon Iver" and a separate "Justin Vernon"? You cited songwriting/composing, and that is not what associated acts are supposed to present. Ippantekina (talk) 09:15, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album. Swift and Vernon have collaborated on multiple (more than two) occasions. BawinV (talk) 09:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
The Independent published a whole article about Taylor Swift – Justin Vernon association, corroborating both Bon Iver and Big Red Machine as Justin Vernon acts, which only further solidifies my point above. The above discussion was already stalled due to the lack of participation by the editor that had a problem with it, but I am going to make the edit. BawinV (talk) 15:31, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Your great-great-great-grandfather Julius Mayer emigrated from Bavaria to New York in 1865 to trade pianos there. According to the Süddeutsche Zeitung, this has now been confirmed by the world's largest genealogical research database, Ancestry. Another German great-great-great-grandfather of Taylor Swift even made the great American dream come true: He worked his way up from grave digger to bank director." But surely not notable, as 99.9% of Americans have "foreign" ancestry? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Taylor's grandmother Marjorie Finlay (née Moehlenkamp and successful opera singer) also has German roots, albeit not Bavarian ones. Taylor Swift is in good company with her family tree in the USA: Many Americans have Bavarian roots because hundreds of thousands of Bavarians emigrated to America in the 19th and 20th centuries." Martinevans123 (talk) 17:20, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
I find the article that mentions that she has inspired Grande, Hasley, and Eillish to be vulnerable and personal just not right. It is a perspective from a critic. Not any article needs to be added, especially from a source that always seem to praise Swift in high regards. All three artists have their own experiences, and to me, it seems like it was only added to name the other artists, especially since no one of the artist ever mentioned something like this. It seems like a misleading attempt of name-dropping and puffery to me, just to show Swift's 'impact' on many of today's artist as possible. Mirrored7 (talk) 02:53, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
@Amaury, Mirrored7, Ronherry, and Ticklekeys: I'm not sure which of you are edit warring and who's just thrown in the mix, but it's a page of the edit history now just additions and reversions, can someone please discuss. Kingsif (talk) 03:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
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