Talk:Sealand (disambiguation)/emails

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From: "Bureau of Internal Affairs" <burint AT sealandgov.org>
To: "Walter Vermeir" <walter AT vermeir.com>
References: <3DD00C70.5060506 AT vermeir.com>
Subject: Re: use of photo's of Sealand
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:14:56 -0000
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Your recent e-mail has been passed to this office for attention.

The Bureau has reviewed your draft text and finds it helpful and clearly and
logically set out.  We are grateful for your expressions of interest and
support.

We attach our current chart of government structure and the State
Specification for our national flag should you find them of interest;
details of our social and economic activities since the mid-90's are on file
with the Statistics Division of the United Nations in New York.

We would suggest replacement of the final paragraph of text [located
immediately prior to the 'legal opinions regarding Sealand' section] by the
following:

"One of the more prominent industries located within the Principality is
Havenco Limited, an internet-based company which was founded by American
entrepreneurs some four years ago and which has leased on a permanent basis
land for its corporate offices.  One of the co-founders, Ryan Lackey, has
with various colleagues built the company into what is now a responsible
competitive and successful international component of internet services
offered globally.  The company, which offers secure hosting of servers
offering services requiring absolute security, is subject to Principality
Law which prohibits absolutely any activities connected in any way with
criminal terrorist or other similar activities, but which upholds the right
of free expression."

The Bureau hereby grants use of the images set out in your correspondence;
we should be pleased to assign to your publisher a copyright licence should
you wish it and would be pleased to receive a request therefor by post to
the address below.

Finally, should your publication appear in hard copy, we should like one of
these for deposit in our state archives.

Again, many thanks for a job well-done.



Chief of Bureau
Bureau of Internal Affairs
Principality of Sealand
SEALAND
1001

(c/o Sealand Post Bag, IP11 9SZ, UK)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Vermeir" <walter AT vermeir.com>
To: <contact AT sealandgov.org>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:00 PM
Subject: use of photo's of Sealand


> Greetings,
>
> I am Walter Vermeir and a member of the international Wikipedia project.
> Wikipedia is a project to produce a free and complete encyclopedia in
> every language. I am from the Dutch Wikipedia. Sorry for my poor English.
>
> Because Wikipedia is a encyclopeadia we also make articels about countrys.
>
> This is the current articel of the English Wikipedia about the
> Principality of Sealand:
> http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand
> (if you see a error you can change it, click on "Edit this page" or tell
> my if you like)
>
> I would like to make the articel better, like this;
> http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium
>
> Question;
> Can the Principality of Sealand give permission to use absolutly free
> the following pictures;(put it in the public domain or the under the GNU
> Free Documentation License)
>
> http://www.sealandgov.org/images/sealand_map.gif
> http://www.sealandgov.org/images/sealand_sm.jpg
> http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/images/fortress.jpg
> http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/images/sealnd10.jpg
> http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/images/sealnd11.gif
> http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/images/sealnd13.jpg
>
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Walter Vermeir
>
> Volunteer of Wikipedia NL
>
>

Attachments;
*[[Media:Govstrct.doc]] chart of government structure of the The Principality of Sealand 
*[[Media:SPEC 011201a.doc]] the State Specification for the national flag of The Principality of Sealand

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From: "Bureau of Internal Affairs" <burint AT sealandgov.org>
To: "Walter Vermeir" <walter AT vermeir.com>
References: <3DD00C70.5060506 AT vermeir.com>
Subject: Re: use of photo's of Sealand
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:20:44 -0000
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On a further note subsequent to our recent e-mail regarding the Sealand
entry, please note that in the first introductory sentence, the Principality
is not a 'micronation' but rather a 'microstate'.

You may know of the abuse of the 'nation' concept by many who interpret the
definition precisely as 'a group of individuals with a common interest' and
have created virtual 'nations' on the internet as well as in other places.
We as a State have no part in such virtual activities;  the Principality and
its residents is hardly a virtual reality but rather something that exists
in bricks, mortar, and over 35 years of hard labour and its accompanying
sweat and tears.

Many thanks again.


Chief of Bureau
Bureau of Internal Affairs
Principality of Sealand
SEALAND
1001

(c/o Sealand Post Bag, IP11 9SZ, UK)

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Subject: Re: License for image
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:22:24 -0000

Many thanks for your e-mail to us here.

We can confirm that the image identified is in the public domain.

In addition, we remain concerned about the information currently on file =
concerning the Principality;  you will no doubt be aware that we have a =
history which has excited many individuals some of whom wish to portray =
an incomplete or incorrect [or both] impression of life here;  we attach =
a copy of our World FactBook submission which is factually correct [the =
statistical data has long been on file with the UN] and which we hope =
you can use to correct the inaccuracies relating to our country.

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance;  for =
confirmaiton, you may wish to write to us here at the address below and =
we will happily forward to you hard copies from our offices here.

Many thanks for your support in promoting our life here and attempting =
to create correct and comprehensive records concerning us.

Chief of Bureau

Bureau of Internal Affairs
Principality of Sealand
SEALAND
1001
(c/o Sealand Post Bag, IP11 9SZ, UK)

Offices open daily 06-16

----- Original Message -----
From: ta.bu.shi.da.yu at gmail.com
To: burint at sealandgov.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:46 AM
Subject: License for image

Hello,

We have licensed the image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sealand_fortress.jpg as being 
under the GFDL (more info can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFDL). Unfortunately, 
it isn't clear that we have permission to do this by yourselves, and we don't want to break 
your copyright.

Would it be possible for you to clarify that you allow us to license the image under the GFDL?

Incidently, I think that your micro-nation is a pretty cool idea! Amazing you managed to get
away with it :-) If I was the govt I'd recognise you in a heart beat!!! That's just my 
opinion, btw, and not necessarily a position that Wikipedia holds.

Ta bu shi da yu
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