Talk:Phytotherapy

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merge

in regards to it may be a good idea, are there other opinions?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:36, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

What may be a good idea? Merging to herbalism or adding the word pseudoscientific to the lede? The merge discussion was started elsewhere. see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_88#Merge_Phytotherapy_to_Herbalism.Dialectric (talk) 10:49, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

both actually...--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:24, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Could you elaborate on policy-based reasons for your position? Dialectric (talk) 23:02, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

WP:NOTDICTIONARY & Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience#Obvious_pseudoscience. Carl Fredrik 💌 📧 23:13, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

I disagree with the position that it is obvious pseudoscience. Would you characterize Wiley's peer reviewed Phytotherapy Research as a journal of pseudoscience? On what basis?Dialectric (talk) 23:34, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely, just because it's a journal does not make it scientific. There are lots of chiropractic journals, that doesn't make them less bunk. I am still under the impression that >95 % of this article could be deleted and the remaining portion merged to Herbalism. Carl Fredrik 💌 📧 13:08, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

I am still having trouble seeing where you are coming from with this. Are you arguing that plants can't have measurable medicinal effects? or that these can't be determined through controlled trials similar to those used for pharmaceuticals?Dialectric (talk) 14:27, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

• Rename Two concepts are traditional medicine with plants, called "herbalism", and evidence-based medicine with plants, called "phytotherapy", herbalism, medicine, alternative medicine, and other names. Wikipedia seeks to match article titles to concepts. When a concept is known by multiple names, then wiki editors here have to choose one. What is discussed here is the science-based subset of herbalism. "Phytotherapy" probably is not the clearest name for this because that is a jargon word with disputed meaning, and not the most commonly used term for describing this concept.

"Evidence-based medicine using plants" might be a more understandable title and might guide the direction of the article, but I regret that the concept might need a phrase instead of a term to make it clear. I am not sure what name is best but "phytotherapy" is causing problems. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:53, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

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Proposed merge to Herbalism

I see there was a fragmentary proposal back in October 2016 to merge to Herbalism. Since it does not seem to have been complete (not having been posted over there), I have started a discussion over there at Talk:Herbalism#Proposed_merge to carry out the merge afresh, and invite all interested editors to join it there. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:54, 21 February 2017 (UTC)