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I'm trying to reach consensus for a cleaner, polished, and not over-stuffed lead section for this good article. Comparing to music articles like Rihanna, Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, Beyoncé, and Taylor Swift, where phrases like "best selling" are included once and later in the introduction, honorific nicknames are avoided per wp:global, and peacocky terms are not repeated over and over again like here. This is my proposal; open to comments. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 02:37, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
I've compiled ideas and suggestions of this RfC per majority, so I'm proposing this entry. cc:EdJohnston. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:03, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Just for agree/disagree/or any extra suggestion, tagging Cullen328, Beeblebrox, Binksternet, MarioSoulTruthFan, CAMERAwMUSTACHE, HAL333, Spy-cicle, Trillfendi, et al. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 01:34, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Born in the Saint James district of Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago and raised in Queens of New York City, she gained public recognition after releasing the mixtapes Playtime Is Over (2007), Sucka Free (2008), and Beam Me Up Scotty (2009). Early in her career, Minaj became known for her colorful costumes and wigs, her distinct flow, and the use of alter egos and accents, primarily British cockney.[7] In 2010, Minaj released her debut studio album, Pink Friday (2010), which was certified triple-platinum by RIAA,[8] and peaked at number-one on the Billboard 200 chart. It yielded Minaj's first top-five single, "Super Bass", which peaked at number three, at the time becoming the highest-charting solo song by a female rapper since 2002.[9] Her second album, Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded (2012), saw Minaj move towards a dance-pop and pop rap sound. The album debuted at number one on the Billboard 200,[10] with its lead single, "Starships", peaking at number five on the Hot 100. Minaj's third and fourth studio albums, The Pinkprint (2014) and Queen (2018), marked a departure from her previous style and a return to her hip hop roots. The former's second single, "Anaconda", peaked at number two on the Hot 100.
Her feature on the remix of Doja Cat's "Say So" and her collaboration with 6ix9ine, "Trollz", both released in 2020, marked her first and second number-one singles on the Hot 100, respectively, with the latter making her the second female rapper to debut at number one, following Lauryn Hill in 1998.[11] Including features, Minaj is the female artist with the second-most entries on the Hot 100, behind singer-songwriter Taylor Swift, with each accumulating over 100.[12] She has nineteen top 10 singles on the chart, the most for any female rapper so far, with four of those being solo songs.[13] Her collaboration with Karol G, "Tusa", became the longest-running number-one single on the Argentina Hot 100, having spent six months at number one on the chart.[14] Her 2021 re-release of her 2009 mixtape, Beam Me Up Scotty, debuted at number two on the Billboard 200, the highest-debut for a female rap mixtape.[15]
Minaj is one of the best selling female artists of all time with 100 million records sold worldwide.[16] She has received numerous accolades, and ranked as Billboard's top female rapper of the 2010s, as well as seventh among the top female artists of the decade.[17][18] In 2016, Time included Minaj on their annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world.[19] Outside of music, Minaj's film career has included voice roles in the animated films Ice Age: Continental Drift (2012) and The Angry Birds Movie 2 (2019) as well as supporting roles in the comedy films The Other Woman (2014) and Barbershop: The Next Cut (2016). She also appeared as a judge on the twelfth season of American Idol in 2013.Notes
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...It reached No. 3 on the Billboard Hot 100, where it became not only Minaj's then-biggest hit, but the highest-charting rap hit by a solo female since Missy Elliott's "Work It" nearly a decade earlier.
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(help)T is not a supplement of The New York Times Magazine, but a distinct publication with its own staff.It's not about pushing it. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 19:38, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Here's some reputable western news sources that call her the "Queen of Rap", or "Queen of Hip-Hop" as an honorable nickname
With this many publications and sources calling her this honorable nickname of "Queen of Rap", I think it's fair to say that the nickname is very much prominent enough for inclusion. "Pop pills now we Shanghai!"(talk to me!~) 05:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I noticed that there's a pretty redundant // conflicting sentence in the lead: The lead sentence makes note of Minaj being known for her flow and versatility, but the second sentence of the second paragraph also makes note of her being known for her alter egos and accents. Why don't we just merge them together so that we don't have two "Minaj is known for" sentences in the lead? So:
will become
And the second sentence of the second paragraph about her early career can be removed. It should also be noted that Nicki does still use accents occasionally in her verses, but this time she uses Jamaican Patois more than British cockney. And it should also be noted, most if not all of her verses from 2020 feature a new alter ego, "Queen Sleaze"; this is explicitly stated on the Whole Lotta Choppas Remix. I think that this is notable enough to add it to the lead sentence, and at the same time we can cut down on stuff in the lead that is unnecessary and make it slimmer. Thanks. Pinging @CAMERAwMUSTACHE and MarioSoulTruthFan: for their thoughts. shanghai.talk to me 04:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
I cited featured articles (best on Wikipedia and commonly used as examples for editors) as reasons why information about songs "falling from the chart" is not article body worthy and that the Brit awards are notable enough to be used in leads; you said "Add it in the featured articles" which doesn't make sense as featured articles are gold standard; to "add it in" said article so that you can add this other irrelevant to the article chart information goes against Wikipedia policy. There is no reason that this belongs in the main Minaj article if a featured article like Taylor Swift doesn't mention her drop from number one at all. And yes, the Brit Awards are notable enough to be in leads if they're used in featured articles like Katy Perry. Cc @Cornerstonepicker: shanghai.talk to me 02:20, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
@Black Kite: I think you may have misunderstood me. I used a featured article as an example on why the content doesn't belong. Taylor Swift currently holds the record for the biggest drop to number one with her lead single, Willow, and yet the Taylor article doesn't mention her drop from number one, because it is not really relevant in the main Taylor article; if you want more examples, the BTS article does not mention their drop from number one with Life Goes On, and neither the Travis Scott, Young Thug, or M.I.A articles mention their drop from number one with Franchise. Why should it be different for Minaj? shanghai.talk to me 10:29, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
With all due respect please write the right information on nicki minaj for instance on the "Breakthrough with Pink Friday" section it's written that the album was released on November 19 while the real date is November 22 please rectify Harajuku Sleeze (talk) 20:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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Does anyone have a reliable sources of Nicki Minaj vaccine misinformation. Recently, the White House discussed about the vaccine after her Twitter account was temporary suspended for COVID-19 vaccine misinformation. --49.150.116.127 (talk) 12:22, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
make of that what you will". If officials and reliable sources say her claims were false, then they were false and that's that. Also, what's the deal with the tongue-in-cheek designation of Dr Antony Fauci as "the head honcho"? 46.97.170.112 (talk) 11:54, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
The removal of one of my recent edits is justified as Forbes sources are not reliable; I am making this talk section to announce my intent to remove all content this article based on Forbes sources. SALLY 9000 (talk) 12:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
I have removed all content based on Forbes.com sources except for the comments of the Infobox. I recommend changing the Infobox sources as well, but there is an existing comment in the Infobox requesting that no changes be made to it without opening discussion in the Talk page. SALLY 9000 (talk) 13:10, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm noticing that throughout the article a hyphen is used in "number-[...]" whenever it is used as a noun when referring to chart positions. I can't find a corresponding style guideline at MOS and most dictionaries, including Merriam-Webster, Cambridge, Macmillian, Collins, and Dictionary.com do not hyphenate the two words. Should we remove the hyphen in these cases? Throast (talk | contribs) 21:41, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
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http://www.nickiminajofficial.com/ Is her website. When her name is Googled it shows a site that doesn’t exist mypinkprint.com . After it is corrected to her correct site, hours lately it reverts back to the wrong site again for her. So this means someone is correcting the wrong site, but someone else keeps changing it back to the wrong one. 47.200.7.239 (talk) 03:19, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
How do we correctly mention that Nicki Minaj has been called the "Queen of Hip-Hop" by reputable publications such as The New York Times, Billboard, T Magazine NPR, LA Times, MTV, XXL, and The Daily Beast, whilst keeping it balanced and not over-puffed? In my opinion, it's perfectly possible to make note of in the lead that she's been called the "Queen of Hip-Hop" and the "Queen of Rap" by reputable news sources while still following WP:NPOV and being fair, minimalist, and concise. I'm pinging some people of note in the earlier discussion and also those who can comment: @Cybertrip, Jurisdicta, AshMusique, Cullen328, VersaceSpace, CAMERAwMUSTACHE, MarioSoulTruthFan, Yikes2004, SunriseInBrooklyn, and Blarb48:
Here is my proposed biography (open to suggestions and changes, and implemented some ideas in the earlier RfC discussion) that tries to keep a balance between this moniker and keeping the lead balanced. Thank you. "Pop pills now we Shanghai!"(talk to me!~) 11:38, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
(invited by the bot) I have no expertise in this area, but "queen of hip hop" seems like something that would be debated. The extra safe route would be to simply list which prominent publications said that. North8000 (talk) 12:57, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Whatever we say about these titles laid on Minaj should be attributed to every source, and kept down in the article body. Binksternet (talk) 22:50, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Can someone please fix her intro the one available on mentions one thing about her!! That's disrespectful, fix her associated acts by removing 6ix9ine, Chris Brown put beyonce Drake Lil Wayne Birdman Madonna and Ariana Grande and also the 'Breakthrough with Pink Friday' is incorrect it says the album was released In November 19 where else the real date is November 22. Pinkprint Publishing (talk) 12:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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Although quite a few would deny it, Nicki Minaj remains one of the best female rappers of all time. Why it is so... Rapping is a form of Poetry and Art and the level of lyrical genius is what determines how great you are as a Rap artist. Nicki Minaj is gifted with outstanding lyrical and wordplay abilities that many Rap artists dont have. She is also the result of many greats today like singer and rapper Doja Cat. Isnt this enough to call her one of the world's greatest Rap queens? Mela5556 (talk) 19:56, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
@Binksternet: Hello! I was wondering what exactly makes "rap queen" different from "Queen of Rap?" They both mean the same thing. There are a couple of media examples that show that honorific nicknames are usually switched around grammatically like that.
For example: Britney Spears is widely regarded by many as the "Princess of Pop"- it's even mentioned in her lead article. Notable media outlets such as Vogue and Billboard use "pop princess", therefore, I would say that "rap queen" is surely applicable to Minaj in this context if said by notable media publications. shanghai.talk to me 09:52, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
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Change the default photo of Nicki Minaj to a photo of her from the year 2021 173.73.59.184 (talk) 12:24, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Given that there has been edit warring over the lead image, I think it's due time for an RfC. Two images are being considered for the lead- the former was taken in September 2017, while the latter was taken in August 2018.
For more examples of these type of lead image discussions, please look at Talk:Kelly_Clarkson#Image_change as an example. Thank you. shanghai.talk to me 06:01, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
The Pinkprint (2014) and Queen (2018) are only given a passing mention in a single sentence, both being described as a "return to hip hop roots" despite both albums being completely different in terms of the lyrics, genres, and the production. To that end, I suggest adding more detail to that section to expand it further. It can be changed from:
To something like:
In addition, the reissue of her second album isn't mentioned at all in the lead. I think this can be added in pretty easily. I'm opening it on the talk page as a preventative measure to an edit war happening just in case. A discussion would be very much appreciated.
shanghai.talk to me 15:28, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
@Black Kite: I think your reply may be broken since I can't reply to it through the beta reply to function on talk pages. Anyways, actually some sentences or phrases can be cut back in the main lead to make room and this is a BLP about a musician. Expanding more on the albums/musical style of that musician makes sense. shanghai.talk to me 02:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
As the consensus reached after two RFCs during August/September 2021 keeps being ignored by an user:
Cornerstonepicker (talk) 15:29, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
An editor disputes minor edits concerning layout, image use, and wording in a particular article frequently.
An editor reverts a change simply because the editor finds it "unnecessary" without claiming that the change is detrimental. This has the effect of assigning priority, between two equivalent versions, to an owner's version.
Hello I’m making a suggestion for nicki Minaj Wikipedia page and i feel like there’s more information that needs to be covered from the front part where nicki albums and sales are like for one where the pink print album is and highlight songs from that era should be Bang Bang nicki is a lead artist on that song and it’s a huge song that went to number 3. Also where the queen album is chun li should be the highlight song because it went to number 10. I’m just saying this needs to be spiced up more with her highlights and hits 69.118.11.68 (talk) 20:23, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello so i just wanted to add a notice i been noticing so when you click on nicki Minaj Wikipedia and you go to the highlights where the albums and songs and records sold worldwide is I’ve notice that there’s important information missing like for one bang bang was durning the pink print era and a huge hit song that went to number 3 nicki was a lead artist on so it should be hightlighted where startships is also chun li was from the queen album that debuted at number 10 so that should be highlighted. Also i just feel it’s a little lazy write up of nicki and that should be added treat her like a legend please Raynard1.2 (talk) 20:30, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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Change the genres from Rap/Hip hop, dance-pop and pop to
As the ones that were added do not mention what was said in the sources Sista II Sista (talk) 08:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
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Minaj, who has found success in rap, R&B, pop and even dance
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As stated in the article, some of the sources for Minaj's genres including:
Are not sourced, I pose that we change them to:
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Just a note: as this article clearly currently fails the Good Article criteria (and has done for a while now, due to the incessant edit warring), I intend to sbmit it to GAR very shortly. Black Kite (talk) 23:26, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
queen of rap 106.215.80.28 (talk) 10:11, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
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I’ve been working on Nicki Minaj pages for quite a few time. I wanted to add City Girls at the people she has inspired. Blarb48 (talk) 20:39, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Due to the ongoing edit war, I have full protected the article. Ping me once an RfC is started or Cornerstonepicker and RogueShanghai mutually agree to stop edit warring and I will downgrade it back to semi-protection -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 18:51, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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