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Beware of the pigs!

Wild boards have a particular importance for the history of Carpathian basin. Prince imre, the only son of Saint Stephanus I, founding king of Hungary, also died to a wildboar's tusks. Many people and some historians argue, both him and Zrinyi were killed by austrian assains. Zrinyi actually planned to make a revolt against the Habsburgs, so getting rid of him would seem logical to the Austrian Empire. However, many eye witnesses testified that Zrinyi was indeed wounded in a way consistent with a wildboar. I'd say 75% probable hunting accident, 25% assassination, but we'll never get to know for sure.

Name

Now can anyone explain to me this stupidity of using Hungarian version of Croatian name for Croatian nobleman? Zrinski's were Croats. Their name is Zrinski or of Zrin. Of course you had different versions of your name in Middle ages in Europe, Latin, German, Hungarian but to name Croatian nobleman who has a Croatian name Nikola Zrinski in Hungarian is pure stupidity. Pp (talk) 12:19, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

I kindly ask you to study a bit the topic. The Zrinksi/Zrínyí became Hungarian nobles as well and had a Hungarian lineage also. Especially the subject here was born in Hungary and had a Hungarian mother as well.(KIENGIR (talk) 12:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC))

This was discussed some time ago. Obviously, the Zrinskis were a family with Croatian origins and close ties to Croatia. They were also members of a multi-ethnic empire, and various members of them were more associated with one part or another of that empire. It seems the most natural and intuitive way to name the articles is to go by what context each member was most well-known, and this particular Zrinski is most famous for his contribution to Hungarian culture and his Hungarian patriotism expressed in that contribution. It's not in any way meant to lessen his Croatian-ness, but rather to reflect the reality that out of the Zrinski family, he is the member most closely associated with Hungarian-ness. Korossyl (talk) 16:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Nonsense, they have no ethnic ties with Hungary, all ties were political. Nikola IV was born in Zrin and there was never Hungarians there. Zrinski were part of house Šubić, one of the twelve noble tribes of Croatia Duelhawk (talk) 23:22, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

I am a Croat and I live in Canada.

While I have Canadian citizenship, I consider myself a CROAT first.

Ethnicity (my nation) comes before bureaucratic citizenship. 104.158.48.139 (talk) 13:30, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Change of article name to Nikola VII Zrinski

You changed the article name from the Croatian name Nikola Subic Zrinski to Nikola IV, both of which are Croat parents. And here they left the article Hungarian name Miklós Zrínyi who is Nikola VII Zrinski, whose father is Croatian and his mother is Hungarian, that makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.73.159 (talk) 04:01, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Nikola VII Zrinski considered himself a Croat and this is shown in a letter he wrote to his friend Ivan Ručić in 1658. “Ego mihi conscius aliter sum, etenim non degenerem me Croatam et quidem Zrinium esse scio.”

... the last part says "... I am a Croat and a Zrinski." 104.158.48.139 (talk) 13:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Birthday

Most sources say May 1 or May 3 The date January 5 is seen only here 104.158.53.149 (talk) 00:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC)