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So he was released by Newcastle but still plays. What exactly has he been up to for the past 2 years then? It should probably be mentioned — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.129.99 (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Birth name

His full name is Mark Anthony Viduka. Marko/Marco is only what he was called while playing in Croatia. The English FA lists him as Mark Anthony on their website, I figure that's proof enough. http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/SuspensionLists/Postings/2004/04/SuspensionList_14Apr.htm where is the evidence that he is of Ukranian descent? According to the Australian Federation of Ukrainian Organisations, his Mum is originally Ukrainian and his Dad is originally Croatian. That accounts for both being listed in Viduka's profile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Haha, yeah sure, are u kidding me or what, his parents were both Croatian immigrants from Croatia, his father Joseph and his Anna Rose are both Croats, I dunno where u got this info, it isn't mentioned anywhere on the net, why should we believe u, maybe she's only 25 or 50% Ukrainian... no proof, man, it's unacceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Official information provided by an organisation is not "unacceptable" - in fact it's reliable and verifiable. Furthermore, if you actually search properly you will find references to his mixed heritage. His mother and that side of his family is Ukrainian but some articles simply say both came from Croatia because they travelled from there, to Australia, together. This is an encylopedic entry on Viduka so please do not alter information simply because you hadn't heard of it before or don't like the idea of mixed heritage. (I'm neither Croatian nor Ukrainian by descent, simply committed to accurate listings on Wikipedia). Cheers. 125.63.139.142 08:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Croatia was in Viduka's blood. Joseph and Anna Rose had fled from communist Yugoslavia in the early 1960s before meeting and marrying in Australia, but Croatia was their homeland. The boy's first language was Croatian because that was what his parents spoke in their home, and Anna Rose cooked only Croatian food. Of course, no-one is saying it isn't "in his blood". In fact it's rather apparent that the Croatian heritage is "dominant" (speaks fluent Croatian, married a Croatian woman and has played/lived in Croatia) but his Mum and her family are still orginally from the Ukraine and that's why he has both (correctly!) listed under heritage. Maybe a comparison would help because Viduka is in a similar situation to Marco Bresciano. His Dad is Italian, Mum is originally Croatian but he grew up speaking, and still speaks, fluent Italian (but almost no Croatian), lives and plays in Italy (never lived/played in Croatia) and married an Italian-Australian girl. Italian is similarly thought of as Bresciano's "dominant" heritage but Croatian is still (correctly!) included in the Wikipedia listing. It's not like heritage is a competition ... most people (especially in "new countries like Australia, Canada, the US) have a mix of different things and that's not embarrassing or strange. Perhaps if it was great-great-great grandparents I'd understand the disputed status, but one's mother and father are obviously direct lineage. Sigh. I can't believe I'm explaining this on such a depressing day for Australian football. Argh, that was cruel. 125.63.139.142 13:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

His mother is ethnic Ukranian but she was born and brought up in Croatia. So very much assimilated into Croatian culture.(Poglavnik pt 2 11:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC))

Pronunciation

Isn't it vi'duka, not 'viduka?? --Sumple (Talk) 03:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Middlesbrough Goals

I know he's not scored 191 goals in 63 appearances as it says, someone's either vandalised it or made a mistake but I don't know the actual number he has scored so I can't actually change it. Anyone have the correct number? David3001 17:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Boro Goals Tally

Hi, given Viduka just scored his 17th goal of the 2006/07 season for Boro overnight, I believe the tally of 23 for his career there is a little low. Last season he scored 17 as well, so I think a figure of 40 would be more around the mark

Simon 6/07/05 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.28.120.238 (talk) 13:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC).

It only takes into account goals scored in the actual Premier League. If it was his goal tally from all competitions it would be 42. (Poglavnik pt 2 12:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC))

link

please link to the chinese version --Tassieroy 09:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandal!

Could the anoymous Vandal (Liam Bishop) please stopvandalising, calling him names etc.? 217.206.224.254 14:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Anyone

Fancy sorting this shit heap out? Some twat has made a right mess of it. He certainly never played for Man City and I in 2008, he was still playing for Newcastle United. So, whoever fancies undoing this bullshit, feel free.

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