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I have the Guiness Hit Singles book, edition 7. Yes I know this is a long time ago, however later versions do not seem to include the One Hit Wonders and other interesting bits of pop trivia. I did e-mail them and asked them to include bits and they said they would in the next edition. Sadly this was not the case.
In the edition I have, they list the One Hit Wonders, up to 1988, then they list the ones which appeared in different guises, such and Frank and Nancy Sinatra with Something Stupid, etc.
It is in this list that John Denver appears as on his own, he IS a OHW, however him and Placido Domingo are technically another artist. Therefore under the guide of (just) John Denver, he IS a ONW, not the sort that should be included in the main list. should be included in the Worthy Note section of the article for this very reason. As should all the other artist collabortations. They have just as much right to be there as the charity acts, who are just the same.--Cexycy (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
I forgot to add, the article itself says Guinness Book of Hit Singles' policy will be used, and they have included John Denver in their list of OHWs in other guises. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, but please bear this in mind. --Cexycy (talk) 14:26, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
As for the Nancy and Frank Sinatra case - that's a tricky one really, the Guinness Book of does list all those instances as well, as an act in their own right, they are technically a OHW, but I feel that common sense needs to come into it a little bit with these artists - as well as the fact that the list will become very long. If you look - Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin are listed seperately although their No.1 was together, but are in the list because neither had another hit.
It's a bit of a grey issue, but it would seem a bit silly to have Frank Sinatra listed as a OHW, but I won't argue on a technicality and it's up to consensus really.
As for the Johnny Logan listing you put - definitely a no to that as he is not a OHW in any sense (he was for a while, but that's not the case now). It's not particularly noteworthy.
But yes, I agree with you now, John Denver would be worth mentioning at least. --Tuzapicabit (talk) 15:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Info about GoonRock (see below) added under 'Collaborations classified as one-hit wonders' though you might want to move him to the main section. I only have the Virgin book to hand, not the Guinness ones so I cannot check how they listed collaborations between three artists listed equally...though it is likely to be separate in the early days of the Guinness books as something like 'DAVID GUETTA & CHRIS WILLIS'[1] would have been listed as a separate recording act to David Guetta on his own as they've had 4 hits together (if it was just one David Guetta ft Chris Willis that would be added to Guetta's hit total) As the methodology stated in the intro is about two artists releasing a record together and getting to number one and not three artists credited equally by the OCC getting to number one, I wasn't sure where to add GoonRock, but obviously it needs to be on here...
Of these three acts LMFAO are credited with having five Top 75 hits with their other number one "Gettin' Over You" only credited to David Guetta and Chris Willis at this moment (the OCC have decided not to credit LMFAO and Fergie, even though their names are shown on the website, appearing on the single's cover)[3] Lauren Bennett has never had any other hits under her own name, but has had a few hits as part of the band G.R.L., while GoonRock is a producer who has also never had any credited hits of his own. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.169.1 (talk) 15:31, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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No, not the Gorillaz song, the actor.
I had a look in the Guiness Hit Singles book, edition 7 book and it backs what I w put in the article. If you have a copy, or can get your hands on a copy, it may something similar if it is not version 7.
If it was a double A side (which the book says it is), then I can't see why we are not looking at a pair of OHWs. That's got to be worth a mention, hasn't it?
Oh and you're right, many one-off acts made it to number 1, but they should be listed in this article, as long as they only done it once. That's the whole point of the article. --Cexycy (talk) 22:06, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Right since someone has decided to add in random pairings, we'll take a look at them. Apart from the fact that now the opening paragraph doesn't match the information, there are a few errors as well as tons of examples missing. First of all - Elton John and Kiki Dee are not a OHW - they had two hits together. "Under Pressure" was 1981, not 1980. Other than that, the following are missing:
Chicane and Bryan Adams,
Mel B and Lisa Lopes,
Mariah Carey and Westlife,
Shaggy and Rikrok,
Robbie Williams and Nicole Kidman,
Will Young and Gareth Gates,
Nelly and Kelly Rowland,
Christina Aguilera and Redman,
Blue and Elton John,
Room 5 and Oliver Cheatham,
Blu Cantrell and Sean Paul,
Ozzy and Kelly Osbourne,
LMC V U2,
JaRule, R Kelly and Ashanti,
Ciara and Petey Pablo,
Nelly and Tim McGraw,
2Pac and Elton John,
Notorious BIG, P Diddy and Nelly,
Meck and Leo Sayer,
Beyonce and Jay Z,
Sugababes and Girls Aloud,
Beyonce and Shakira,
Eva Cassidy and Katie Melua
- and that's just this decade alone!
I'm not even going to go there anymore, the page is back to being a mess. If you're going to work on an article - do the research first!--Tuzapicabit (talk) 13:58, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
This article is about OHW as you know and according to the Guiness Hit Singles Book the likes of these acts are listed. They are not random acts at all. It is from this book that I got the details from in the first place. How can you imply I did not do the research when I have been looking at the very book in question? This also told me that Queen and David Bowie was in 1980, although this could quite easily be a misprint.
I have changed the introductionary paragraph to make it clearer and removed the multiple issues tag as this is wrong. If the book is based on the Guiness Hit Singles book and they list such acts then they should be the article. However when you get a load of these things, the article can get very long. Do you think another article for these would be a better idea?
The list you gave was very interesting and I will have to look into them, however I can tell you the following ones you listed are wrong: -
Chicane and Bryan Adams Mel B and Lisa Lopes Mariah Carey and Westlife Shaggy and Rikrok Blue and Elton John Room 5 and Oliver Cheatham 2Pac and Elton John
These were created as featuring the second artist which means it is not classed as their song. This is a great shame as if they did feature they should get equal credit. Maybe these could feature in their own article? It would certainly cut the lists down a bit.
Shaggy and Rikrok had a few hits together anyway.
I never claimed the list was complete anyway, there was bound be to be some which were missing. --Cexycy (talk) 07:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello again.
I have created a new article and included bits of what you have mentioned and I think it looks a whole lot better now. Please have a look and tell me what you think. --Cexycy (talk) 02:18, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
Thanks for your feedback. However can you please explain a few things for me?
How come you put back Tubeway Army, Steve Silk Hurley and Baddiel, Skinner and the Lightning Seeds?
Tubeway Army, in my understanding was a band with Garry Numna in, therefore they are not OHW fully as they featured an artist who would have further chart hits. They are not like the Overlanders or the Floaters.
Steve Silk Hurley is as much of a OHW as John Denver. They are on their own, but they had hits with other artists, in Hurleys case, with another chap to form JM Silk.
Baddiel, Skinner and the Lightning Seeds are quite clearly a collabration. The Lightning Seeds have had other hits by themselves and Baddiel and Skinner joined them for a one-off or should I say two one-offs? I'm not sure if this should be listed at all as they really had two songs, what do you think?
Cliff Richard and The Young Ones is quiter clearly a OHW in that guise. If readers need an example then surely the link will explain everything?
I haven't edited anything, I just wanted to ask you about these things to get a better understanding on your point of view, which is just as valid as mine. I thought this would be better than an edit war as I'm sure you will agree. --Cexycy (talk) 01:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
What I am saying is this article is for artists who have only charted with one number one hit and nothing else at all. If they charted under another name (or as part of another act, which is also technically another name), they should go into the One-hit wonders of Alternative Guises in the UK list. If a member of The Floaters had a hit with another group or solo then the Floaters would have to be taken out of the main article list and moved to One-hit wonders of Alternative Guises in the UK, for the simple fact that the whole group is not entirely a One-Hit Wonder.
The opening paragraph needs to be changed a little because that was there before I made the One-hit wonders of Alternative Guises in the UK article. This was created especially for such acts so as not to cause confusion.
Steve Silk Hurley has charted under a different name with his bandmate as JM Silk, so he is not a total OHW so he should not be in the main OHW article. The same goes for Tubeway Army only this is the other way round. In my copy of Guiness Hit Singles, if you look up Tuneway Army, it says see Gary Numan and their one hit is listed with his stuff.
I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from here, what do you think? --Cexycy (talk) 21:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Can someone tell me why my entries to the list this week were removed without comment? All 3 were definate one hit wonders, cornershop's song "brimful of asha" hit number one and was their only charting single. Psy's "gangnam style" was his only hit outside of Korea, his followup single "gentleman" was a commercial flop, and birdies cover of "skinny love" was her only charted release. They definately belong on the list and I find it quite rude they were just removed wihtout any kind of discussion. Thanks. 00:30 23 January 2015
In the AfD for the "alternative guises" article, I suggested the following:
I realize that not all of the alternative guises fit the criteria (of the individual artists having had hits separately), but many of them do, and cutting down the text relating to those collaborations would make the article easier to read. Does anyone object to that? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
JXL has had another top 75 hit as Junkie XL. "Obsessions" reached #56 as DJ Tiesto vs Junkie XL. I will move this entry to the collaborations section.
I have removed a reference to an act whose one hit only reached #27 on the UK charts, but #1 on the so-called London Radio chart. This is clearly not an official chart and therefore the example is not appropriate for the article. Smurfmeister (talk) 10:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
The KLF/JAMMs didn't release the single Doctorin' The Tardis, at the end of the History of the JAMMs album Ford Timelord admits he released the single. So even though The KLF and The JAMMs went off to make other songs and have other hits, the car itself didn't. Also this is probably the first and only time a car actually released a single. Ford Timelord was the American cop car on the front cover of the record, it had been used in the Superman film and was acquired afterwards by The KLF.
87.115.107.159 (talk) 10:55, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't Simon Dupree and the Big Sound be here for their song "Kites"?ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Were not the Scots group Orange_Juice_(band) a one-hit wonder band with their song "Rip it Up"?ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:12, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
The Wikipedia article on this group does say that this was their only Chart 40 hit in the United Kingdom. ~~
You put in Yann Peifer, DJ Yanou, whose role in DJ Sammy's Heaven cover was his only one as a solo DJ, but he had a UK no 1 as part of Cascada, being a DJ for the act. Sam And the womp, meanwhile, have gone quiet since being UK no 1.109.145.47.82 (talk) 15:07, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm not convinced by the argument that X Factor Finalists are one hit wonders because the line up changes - so did the Sugababes for example. The criteria above seemed to be based on the name of the act rather than its membership. If they followed the Band Aid model and added a year to the name then fine but they have the same name so they are the same act in the same way as Glee Cast are one act regardless of members. Btljs (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
@Tuzapicabit: I see you reverted an edit based on the fact that the follow-up only reached #92 (ie. not in the top 75). If this is the definition of the chart then that really needs stating explicitly in the lede - I'm guessing that the Guinness books can be cited as source for this. There's nothing 'official' about top 75 any more than there is top 40 or top 100. It will mean that in the OCC vault, they are going to record some of these as having more than one charting song. Btljs (talk) 20:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
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Looking at the 2014 No.1s, about half of them are collaborations as is the style of hits this decade. Obviously, this list now has to go as it's going to become endless. It makes little sense anyway, and let's not forget that the last few editions of the Guinness Book of removed the list as well.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 10:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Nope. This list should go. Not even the original reference, the Guiness Book of Records, counts them as "one-hit wonders". Bowie, Queen, Aretha Franklin, George Michael, no way! Batternut (talk) 12:15, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
re: Collaborations classified as one-hit wonders.
ENGLANDneworder is probably not listed as a one-hit wonder in The Guinness Book of British Hit Singles either, but I do not want to be the one who states whether it is or is not. So to give it the benefit of the doubt (and because someone took time to put it in the list in the first place) I have moved the information to a new section called 'Special cases - Football records' with a couple of other number ones which could or could not be viewed as one-hit wonders similar to the status of ENGLANDneworder. Please read the section for additional information on each record before making amendments (i.e. just deleting the section) as its taken me time to type it all up...and the information should provide background info for people to make their own minds up.81.154.172.220 (talk) 14:57, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Why are Baddiel, Skinner & the Lightning Seeds even mentioned in this article? They had two different #1 singles -- granted, with the same melody, but with different lyrics. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:32, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
As its a number one song by Carolina Gaitán, Mauro Castillo, Adassa, Rhenzy Feliz, Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz and cast of Encanto...will you be listing all the individual performers as artists in their own rights (with only Beatriz having another hit so far) or not bothering as they all star in Encanto (therefore being the 'cast of Encanto' in a way similar to when you see the credit 'Eurythmics, Annie Lennox, Dave Stewart' on their YouTube videos)?
I've put Wellerman back in as to take it out for the sake of two weeks is a being a bit too pedantic, especially this rule is probably something not set in stone by Guinness/GRRR and something more to stop people wasting their time by adding something, writing up the bio, finding all the links....only to find out that the artist has got another hit.
However by taking out Wellerman 50 weeks after it hit number one (with Evans unlikely to score a new hit in the next two weeks) is a bit dumb...as to add it back in and then for me to write this message up, that editor has not only wasted my time but the time of the people who have updated the section previously. As Guinness themselves gave up on the idea of a British Hit Singles' book years ago it this list probably doesn't matter that much when it comes to everything going on in the world, so no need to be that pedantic.
Military wives is a choir which had a number one named where ever you are featuring Gareth Malone. I'm wondering where to put this because the choir made other hits but I'm not sure if they should go in regular one hit wonder or a collaboration one hit wonder. TheWikiLlama123 (talk) 03:03, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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I think some of this page may contain synthesised material, as for later entries in the table of one-hit-wonders, they are mostly cited to the UK charts website (many earlier ones are listed in the British Hit Singles & Albums).
To solve this, I think this page could be made more similar to the corresponding page for American one-hit wonders, which lists songs which at least two valid sources consider 'one-hit wonders' instead of listing songs which are both number ones and the sole top 75 song for an artist (no songs later than 2019 are listed on the US page, where enough time has passed to be considered a one-hit wonder). Xeroctic (talk) 15:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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