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So is there a picture of Layla Miller before "House of M" or is the red horned part just someone description?--Mullon 23:57, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
her name in hebrew means "the night" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.230.77.185 (talk) 22:23, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I thought we should engage in a constructive discussion of the recent changes to the entry here. Because it's actually not an improvement to the entry to have it's first substantive sentence reference "Dr. Strange's theory of her origin" when that theory has not been previously mentioned in the entry. This is a very problematic construction, and "better this way" is just not strong enough of a rationale to explain or justify the change.--Galliaz (talk) 18:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Firstly, (and I'd have to double check on this,) I thought that Layla was merely allowed continued existence in an orphanage after House of M, not that she was actually there beforehand. Remember - reality was altered, so it is entirely possible that the people of the orphanage are even given memories of her before House of M, even if she didn't exist yet. This explains why she is in an orphanage in the normal universe, instead of with her parents as in House of M. This would also mean that Doc Strange was not wrong. Secondly, as per the editorial guidelines and using the Batman page as a staple, retcons to the character should be listed in relation to when they were published, aka ordering the article according to real time instead of comic book continuity.Primal Zed (talk) 18:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
While we're discussing this, can someone remind me why we removed the mention of her previous mutant abilities purportedly before House of M? Layla states that she had scales and could breathe fire. If that's part of her "continuity" should it be mentioned?Luminum (talk) 08:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
In Mighty Avengers #13, Daisy Johnson approaches Layla at X-Factor Investigations about joining Nick Fury's new Howling Commandos. She declines, saying they would fail with her in the team.
Two points here: 1) Should we mention this in the article?, and 2) How in the name of christmas did she get back from the future?
Ixistant (talk) 18:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
This section is now part of XCell, but I added the fact that since Layla is listed in the Caterpillar files, at least one of her parents must be believed to be superhuman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabil (talk • contribs) 19:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure PAD said something like, hey, stop talking about this stuff, at the front of the issues. So shouldn't someone out there be NOT TALKING ABOUT IT here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.91.10.73 (talk) 07:30, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
And the line between Wikipedia and ED continues to blur... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.114.140.153 (talk) 15:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
There appears to be a gap between the last appearance described in this section (Layla being married to Jamie Madrox in Las Vegas) and her appearance in Uncanny X-Men #11 LGY #630 - April 2019. Her appearance in that issue is significant but isn’t described - she is found by Logan/Wolverine to be happily living with her husband Jamie and nursing Davey, her (and presumably Jamie’s) baby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cwarsaw99 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
When Layla meets Spider-Man (and, given how everyone in the Marvel Universe meets Spidey sooner or later, she will), wouldn't her powers undo the events of One More Day?
Wouldn't contact with Layla cause Peter to suddenly remember that he was married to Mary-Jane, that they used to have a daughter, his unsmaking and the death of Harry Osborn?
Does Quesada realize this?
Please stop removing Layla's knowledge of the past and future from the abilities section. Yes it is not her mutant(?, well we don't know if she's a mutant) power and was given to her artificially... neither of this matters.
First, how the the section appears on the infobox is "Abilities" not "Powers" (yes, when editing it may look like power=, but how it appears on the page is "Abilities" which was an early change in Wiki to accommodate non super comic heroes). Look at any other super hero wiki page, the section does not just list mutant or superhero powers. Iron Man and Dr. Doom both list their power suits and armaments. Iron fist lists "master martial artist", Hawkeye/Ronin lists "grandmaster archer", etc. etc. The section is for any significant attribute that sets them apart in the comics (both from normal humans and other super heroes) and that the character uses on a regular basis. Layla's knowledge although not a mutant ability is still above normal human AND she uses it regularly be it for her own ends or to help X-Factor investigations. Why do we list "master martial artist" or "grandmaster archer" for Iron fist and Hawkeye? Why do we list Iron Man's power suit or Captain America's shield in this section? Because it's something that an average human in the Marvel U can't do or doesn't have access to. Layla's knowledge falls into this category.
Second, whoever removed it on the grounds "not a "power" per definition, but something given to her artificially", how does that matter? There are a ton of other heroes who have been given powers and abilities artificially. I mean, the Hood doesn't have any powers without his cloak, we still list it. Not to mention, Iron Man's suit isn't a "power" per se, hey it's not even an ability, but of course we mention it. The fact is that Layla's knowledge is a significant above human feature (normal characters don't have the ability) that for most of her comic life has been her identifying trait. Not to mention issue #50 stated she was also downloaded with knowledge of the next 80 years so she still has knowledge of upcoming events.
If Spider Man was given his powers by his future self coming back in time and injecting him with a serum, would it make a difference? Of course not, we would still list his abilities. Comic characters receive their abilities and/or powers from many different sources. Layla may not even be a mutant based on past issues, and for all we know, her resurrecting power was given to her as well. Plus, if you want to get technical, we could still even list under a former section her ability to restore people's memories in House of M. Of course the real explanation was that this ability was ret-conned away but it was a power that's not explained by Layla's knowledge injection from her future self (Rogue was even able to absorb the ability to restore other's memories). In fact, we don't even know for sure if future Layla visited her self before or after House of M. 24.190.34.219 (talk) 02:49, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Please stop removing this info from the lead. It IS her official code name and thus deserves to be there. It based off the Butterfly Effect and in-universe she gets it from Rictor in the first arc (#6). Even if she mostly goes by her real name it doesn't stop it from being her official code name: it's been used in multiple comics not only by Peter David and in X-Factor but by other writers (Kyle & Yost) in other comics (X-Force #26); butterflies are used to represent the character in artwork (the cover to the Layla Miller one-shot); Peter David has used it to refer to Layla in some interviews, it's what Layla uses when she's in the future after Messiah Complex (the character Ruby calls her by her code name, "Butterfly," on two separate occasions [#44] and so does the character Linquon [#50]); but most importantly Marvel uses it occasionally on the recap page at the front of comics over her real name (see X-Factor #230, which you can easily view the recap page of here ) and is used on Marvel.com's own character database . I've added some citations I was easily able to verify because I owned the comics and recalled the arcs, but I know there are a few others.Flygongengar (talk) 07:29, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
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