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I've always understood that her name is "Latoya" and not "La Toya". That's how it appears on her album covers.--190.96.58.41 (talk) 14:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
"She was also repeatedly molested by her father and brothers as confirmed in her brother Tito's book slated for an early 2008 release, entitled "Livin' Large"[4]"
I can't find any record of this book?
Yeh neither can I? Is it even a real book... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.121.179 (talk) 11:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Just a clarification: La Toya was the fantasy of Ron Johnson, not Dwayne Wayne. Hillman heads will remember that Ron wanted a copy of La Toya's "Playboy" spread in the Hillman time capsule. 172.161.150.13 10:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
What's the problem with this article? I found it very helpful and interesting. --Jareth64 17:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Is the list of singles overkill, or a good idea? Any thoughts? Jwrosenzweig 19:58, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
"she stated that the allegations against Michael Jackson were true". Which particular allegations does this refer to? pomegranate 00:19, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)
I ran into LaToya and met her for the first time this past weekend. She asked me my name, then introduced herself by saying, "I'm LaToya." I doubt she's changing her name, or she'd be introducing herself to new people with it.
now that everyone knows Toy is LaToya.
In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:55, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I would like the sales to be fixed on this page. It is grossly incorrect and should be fixed. 198.54.202.100 21:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
okay, I was playing a practical joke that I'm sorry for the first time. But... the second time, I was making the musical bio factual (sorry, LA TOYA is the cd with You're Gonna Get Rocked, NOT BAD GIRL) and yet it still gets deleted and reverted. WTF?
I am getting sick of everything I add getting deleted, same thing happened on the Streisand board when I added some information about her 70's and 80's albums, non-jokingly.
Think Boy who cried wolf.
There are a lot of assertions made in this article with no citations. They need to be added, ASAP, or I will come back within around a week and make major cuts and revisions to the article. Pacian 21:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
The cleanup template should not have been removed when there was no clean up done. The article does not follow many of Wikipedia's stlye guidelines. Individual years should not be linked to. "La Toya" should be refered to as "Jackson" throughout the entire article after the first mention of her full name. Only the first word in each heading should be capitalized unless proper nouns are present. The song titles in the discography should be placed in quotes. Also, the writing/grammar is very poor in many parts. For example: "La Toya was brought into the spotlight with her family after her father got the family to get together to perform several shows". And the article does need citiations. Somebody seems to have added {{Fact}} markers to the article, but they were removed. Articles need to cite sources. --Musicpvm 18:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I already added the citations that were needed. Some places said "Citation needed" when there is no possible way to provide one. And note to Musicpvm (or whatever your name is), if you are such the expert on the English language then why can't you correct the crap yourself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhythmnation2004 (talk • contribs)
I have started to clean up the article in an effort to make it sound more neutral and like an encyclopedia but would have no idea where to find more citations. I'm just editing the tone and grammar a bit so it flows better. - DT
I have also noted more citations are needed but do not know the code to point them out. I will later include a list here on which a source is needed. - DT
This article has been tagged for almost 6 months now, and I think it is time to add citations where they are needed. Can an administrator please point out exactly what needs citations? I will be happy to find the sources and add them, but I need to know where there is a citation needed. Thanks. Rhythmnation2004 17:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I removed the link to - The No Relations La Toya fansite because the website hasn't been updated in 2 years and is very poorly maintained. In addition, the Geocities ads on the side are extremely frustrating. Only one fan site needs to be listed, and that is the Church of La Toya, which has a links page and links to other fan sites, most of which are also poorly maintained. Rhythmnation2004 16:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
To begin with, user 74.99.219.28, "Just Wanna Dance" -WAS- in the top 20 dance singles, although I agree that the way it is currently phrased is more neutral. Singer and musician are separate on many other articles (see Marlon Jackson), and there is no Wikipedia policy stating that this is not acceptable. She did indeed win a Grammy, as Jimmy Cliff's album on which the track "Reggae Nights" appeared received a Grammy award for Songwriting. Since La Toya was a songwriter on this album, she is a rightful winner of that award just as much as any other contributing writer to that album. In addition, I have added in the fact that Jackson is a New York Times Bestselling author, as it is common knowledge that her memoir La Toya: Growing up in the Jackson Family sat on the top of the Best Sellers list for several weeks. You obviously have very little knowledge on the subject of La Toya Jackson, which is a good reason why you should try to not get involved with this page. I have seen in the past that you have continued to vandalize this page with the sole purpose of belittling La Toya Jackson or making her appear to be a less-legitimate musician, actress, author, and songwriter than she truly is. Please refrain from further revisions of the introduction paragraph or you will be reported to administration for repeated vandalism. However, I thank you for your attempted contribution and hope that you will find other ways to contribute to Wikipedia in the future, hopefully with legitimate sources as proof that your revisions are fact, and not your own biased opinions. Rhythmnation2004 23:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Rhythmnation2004 (talk · contribs) insists that Image:Latoyatile.jpg is a proper image for this page. The image is a tile print that the user made himself of Jackson. In my opinion it looks almost nothing like her and has no place on this page. Does anyone else have thoughts on it? Metros 17:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Metros continues to abuse admin powers by removing all listed awards and achievements from the La Toya Jackson article, despite the fact that all of the more obscure awards were properly sourced and the other ones were common knowledge (such as, La Toya Jackson provinging background vocals on Michael Jackson's Thriller (album), which can not be proven other than a scan of the album's inlay). Metros' rationale behind this was that images of the awards themselves, which were the sources given, were not acceptable. I asked Metros to show me which Wikipedia policy stated this, and he refused, probably because there isn't any. In addition, Metros went so far as to say that some of the awards were not notable and not worthy of being referenced on the article, including, but not limited to, such prestigious awards as tributes from U.S. congress, the NAACP Medal of Freedom, and a recognition certificate from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, among other things.
This is not the first time that Metros has used his personal hatred towards the subject of the article to belittle her by removing any part of the article that glorifies her achievements. This violates the Wikipedia policy of Neutral point of view, a policy which Metros constantly quotes. Rhythmnation2004 19:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
No, this is forum shopping. You didn't get what you wanted at WP:ANI, where it was clearly explained that what Metros did was not "abusing admin powers", yet you are making the same complaints here. So this is a clearly incorrect complaint, previously posted at another forum, now reposted in an incorrect forum here. Please stop it. Fram 12:28, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Metros' abuse of admin powers is NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS REQUEST FOR COMMENT. This request for comment was created to discuss the unjustified removal of properly sourced awards and achievements from the La Toya Jackson article. Please stop trying to change the subject; it's obvious that you are only trying to keep me running around to the point of exaustion in the hopes that I will drop it. Rhythmnation2004 13:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
At this point, I am completely ignoring any response from Metros and Fram. There is NO Wikipedia policy that states that images can not be used as sources. A photograph of the award is the best proof possible that the award exists. Rhythmnation2004 19:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
It is blatantly obvious that the user that removed all of these awards and other achievements is attempting to make La Toya Jackson look like a joke, by only providing two sourced achievements in the article.Rhythmnation2004 20:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Despite the fact that I just proved that those three achievements do not require sources. How mature of you. Rhythmnation2004 22:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, first of all, this RfC is improperly structured. It should be presented as a neutral statement (i.e. "Should this content be included?") not a clearly POV finger pointing statement.
That said, my take on the matter is this: Photos and videos from a user content site like youtube or imageshack or wherever are certainly not reliable sources. Aside from the fact that it calls for conclusions to be made that aren't immediately obvious (subject of the photo, what's happening), such user based content could be manipulated or misrepresentative. On the other hand, if her name appears in the liner notes (or in any sort of credit reel), that doesn't call for any conclusion and certainly should be included (and referenced to the source, if necessary). If the subject truly did receive an award, there is likely a better record than some random photo. Even a primary source, like the subject's own bio would probably be acceptable here. Even better would be the award giver itself, since they generally keep a record of such things.
Second, as far as removing unsourced material goes, I'm never really against it, but I don't think that removing awards and appearances falls under WP:BLP which clearly states that it's about contentious and potentially libelous material. Outside of BLP, if an editor suspects that unsourced material may be inaccurate or can't tell, then removal is fine. I would frown upon a user removing information that they believed to be accurate, that wasn't contentious just because sourcing was insufficient, though. I just don't see the point.
Finally, as far as the abuse of admin powers goes, that's probably beyond the scope of this RfC, but it's unclear to me what, if any, admin powers were used here. Looks like a straight up content dispute to me, in which one of the involved parties happens to be an admin.
So, that's my take. Hope it helps. -Chunky Rice 18:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I've modified a few statements. Firstly LaToya in her book cited, makes it very clear that she chose to be in that religion, so I've made that clear here. Secondly she didn't spend "most" of her time witnessing. Her witnessing is only mentioned a few times in her book, among a host of other things that had nothing to do with the religion. She does make it clear that until her 20s at least, the religion had an established grip on her perspective of a number of things, such as what song lyrics she could sing for example. Wjhonson 18:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The article omits the following issues:
She used to be a Jehovah's Witness, but what religion is she now? Nietzsche 2 (talk) 15:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Why is she in the category of Female American police officers? Just wondering since there is no reference of this occupation in the article itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.188.42 (talk) 01:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
WP:LEAD#Relative emphasis does allow material to be introduced in lede and to repeated in follow-on sections. Wholesale deletion is not good. Now, I will accept that lede is too long and has peacock words which can be eliminated. ----moreno oso (talk) 05:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Recommend that peacock words and lede be shortened to include the pertinent facts already present as per preceding section. ----moreno oso (talk) 05:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Just reading the article and I'm wondering if we shouldn't rephrase "he sent a security expert to eyewitness that Gordon had not faked his death a second time" so that we make it clear that this is something La Toy has claimed. As written currently, it comes off a little confusing (in both articles) because there is no mention of the idea of a first faked death anywhere else. And the link we use to reference the claim (in both this and Gordon's article) is a dead link. I know she mentions it in her book but she's not any more specific so using that as a source wouldn't alleviate the confusion at all. It would, perhaps, be a better source to use for the hiring of the security expert, at least. Millahnna (talk) 10:25, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
I realize some articles' editing functions are restricted to experienced editors who are in good standing. Since I'm both, why am I unable to edit this one? - Froid (talk) 09:02, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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There are very many pictures and videos of "Oche Jackson" with the Family since 2009, and he even claims La Toya as being his mother. ~ Iamthecheese44 (talk) 04:52, 23 sept 2017 (UTC)
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Although politics have been a taboo topic in many places it is commonplace for celebrity articles on Wikipedia to mention political affiliations.
La Toya follows several members of the Trump family on social media and has a friendship with the former president from their Celebrity Apprentice days.
The few times she has mentioned Trump during his presidency was usually in a positive light or to defend him from criticism.
I know it's a weak case but if there were only some way to confirm this. 98.10.17.162 (talk) 04:27, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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