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I have changed the edit of 84.43.140.129 to reduce the number of significant digits in the boiling point, and to make the K and °C numbers consistent. Both the Los Alamos page and the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics list the boiling point as 2072°C. I'm very doubtful of the 2072.2222°C number, unless you can provide a citation. Eight digits of precision for a temperature that high seems unlikely. Eric 20:44, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
I would like to know the possible composition of fusible alloys having the foll properties:
Melting Range: 123 - 125 C / Softening Range 120 - 122 C / Micro Hardness Less than 5 micro vickers @ 200 gms load
What is the half-life of indium? The current text says 4×1010 years, but previously it stated 4×1014 years, which agrees with the value at chemicalelements.com. Anybody have a definitive reference? Julesd 16:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Removed the following from article:
I don't know much about indium and dietary suppliments, but am quite skeptical. Please provide peer reviewed reference (not just pat. info). And the description of silicon hydride as negatively charged powedered hydrogen seems rather odd. Vsmith 03:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Effect of Indium on Mineral Absorption What does rare indium do, besides raising average mineral uptake 60 to 694%? Indium is a soft silvery super-metal discovered in 1850 that is found in an extremely dilute form in ocean water and earth ores.
Indium was first tested in 200 mice compared to 200 controls by Dartmouth Medical School's Dr. Henry A. Schroeder, J.J. Balassa, Marian Mitchner, M. Kanisawa, A.P. Nason, and W.H. Vinton in 1964-68; who reported that indium improved average mineral absorption in the glands 142%. Indium raised chromium in all organs average 333% (chromium helps regulate blood sugar). Indium users often report better sleep (pineal neurotransmitters), reduced headaches and anxiety ( as reported in research by Bonadio, Lyons and Marion). In the mice studies, indium also raised also raised average glandular manganese 94%, Zinc 79%, and Copper 61%. All of these are key trace minerals. Independent research conducted by www.rawfood.com indicates that indium acts as a magnet for trace minerals making them more biologically available.
Indium may improve alimentary assimilation of food and especially minerals. Over 1,000 human volunteers studied by patentee George Bonadio, and 1,300 lab animal studies over the past 30 years, suggest indium has dozens of health-giving qualities based on its ability to improve trace mineral assimilation.
Indium is reported to improve one's sense of overall well-being, mood, thinking and memory.
A study by the Austrian Morbus Altheimer Society using indium with music, massage and herbs reported 37% improvement in nervous system challenges in 24 patients in 30 days (compared to 8% in controls). Some people report experiencing restoration of hair color, and better hair growth. Dr. Lyons reported INDIUM may improve micro-circulation, lessen blood viscosity, enhance blood hemoglobin iron extending red blood cell life (and their oxygen capacity) from 90 to 120 days.
Indium is a surface antiseptic for skin, hands and utensils. Indium may enhance immunity and help speed the healing of cuts and burns (but do not use topically on broken skin). Indium may improve athletic performance by removing muscle lactic acid waste, enhancing endurance and recuperation. One report indicates that a retired racehorse fed indium, went out to win the next 6 races and set 2 new track records.
User:thomaslavoie —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.122.133.80 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
The original study about indium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1249646&dopt=Abstract User:thomaslavoie
My Chemical Elements book says Indium is not very toxic when ingested, but can be if injected directly into the bloodstream. I will try to post a reference, but I do not have my books here.
Chemical Elements from Carbon to Krypton by David E Newton
Under Health Effects
The health effects of indium compounds are somewhat unusual. When taken by mouth, they are relatively harmless, when injected into the skin, however, they are very toxic.
Basing a claim of In being toxic because of InCl3 toxicity is like claiming Hydrogen is toxic because HCl is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.115.29.242 (talk) 19:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
In reference to: Indium ranks 61st in abundance in the Earth's crust at approximately 0.25 ppm [1], which means it is more than three times as abundant as silver, which occurs at 0.075 ppm [2].
It appears to me that 0.05 ppm is correct and 0.25 ppm is incorrect.
There's probably plenty of ambiguity in the words "abundance in the Earth's crust" so it's difficult to tell if the text from this wiki entry "Indium" is incorrect, but the original work by Taylor and Mclennan in 1985 (http://www.indium.com/_dynamo/download.php?docid=552 Section 2.1) that is cited by the USGS (http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/indium/mcs-2008-indiu.pdf) puts the number for indium at 0.05 ppm, not the 0.25 ppm as found in the source referred to in the link http://education.jlab.org. --Doretoe (talk) 04:36, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
What abouts it new role in Surface tension-driven nanoelectromechanical relaxation oscillators? ArdClose (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Contrary to previous version, indium does not make a mirror that is "as good as silver" due to its much lower reflectivity. The reference provided in previous verison was also incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.200.230 (talk) 20:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be a direct contradiction between two sections of the article:
and
I suspect that the latter segment should read "about a kilogram", but the reference is hiding behind a paywall, so I can't verify either claim. PeterB (talk) 03:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
The article on Poor Metals includes Indium as one of them. Can Indium be a True metal and a Poor metal also? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jokem (talk • contribs) 14:48, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
CIGS solar cells (Cu(In,Ga)Se2) solar cells REQUIRE indium, there is no substitue. However, there are several types of transparent conducting glass, ITO (indium tinned oxide) and Al:ZnO (Aluminum doped zinc oxide). Therefore, indium can be replaced by Zinc Oxide in TV applications, however, it cannot replace indium in CIGS solar cells. The last sentence is very vague in this reguard, it seems to indicate that zinc oxide can replace indium in CIGS cells. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.26.160.22 (talk) 22:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I would like to add information about indium recycling rates citing a report summary from the UNEP. Not sure if I should add it to the Production section or the Resources section. Any thoughts on where that information might fit the best? Dvbyrne (talk) 16:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
A lot closer to B than to C-Class, but needs a few refs to get there. Re-rating for now, undo if disagree--R8R Gtrs (talk) 15:39, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
--Stone (talk) 12:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Now a lot of things have been improved now it is a B-Class article, but still for B+ or GA it has some points to have improved.--Stone (talk) 18:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm looking for opinions on whether or not to modify the information presented below from 2007:
"The Indium Corporation, the largest processor of indium, claims that, on the basis of increasing recovery yields during extraction, recovery from a wider range of base metals (including tin, copper and other polymetallic deposits) and new mining investments, the long-term supply of indium is sustainable, reliable and sufficient to meet increasing future demands [3].
This conclusion also seems reasonable in light of the fact that silver, a less abundant element, is currently mined at approximately 18,300 tonnes per annum [4], which is 40 times greater than current indium mining rates."
Although indium is abundant in the earth's crust, more recent reports (from the USGS, UN Environmental Programme, USDOE, European Commision's joint research centre) highlight the scarce usable and projected supply of the metal. For example, the USGS points out that "Although the geochemical properties of indium are such that it occurs with other base metals—copper, lead, and tin—and to a lesser extent with bismuth, cadmium, and silver, most deposits of these metals are subeconomic for indium." (http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/indium/mcs-2011-indiu.pdf) Other reports highlight low recycling rates and the large and growing gap between supply and demand.
Any thoughts on how to approach this?
Cheers,
Dvbyrne (talk) 23:13, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Based on what people have mentioned above and the fact that the reference for indium running out in 13 years comes from a 2007 article in *New Scientist* which is not considered a scholarly journal, the article is also behind a pay wall. As the article is out of date (we should only have 8 years left if it is correct), I cannot verify what it says, and the source is not know for high quality science I have removed that the sentence about indium running out in 8 years. If you want to put it back in please include a scholarly source as a reference. Lotu (talk) 01:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Here is the ranked list of applications based on Ullmann's Encylopedia of Industrial Chemistry, sort of the gold standard for what is actually used for what (vs a lot of would-be "uses" that are in fact near negligible). Beginning with the largest apps (as of 1985): Low-melting alloys (12 tons/y) < Bearings < Dental alloys < Nuclear reactor control rods < Low-pressure sodium lamps < Electrical contacts < Alkaline dry batteries < Phosphors < Semiconductors < < Liquid crystal displays (7 tons/y). Since this Wiki article is pretty mature, I did not want to be too disruptive, but it seems that we have the applications section reflect this ranking and relegate niche uses to a subsection. Otherwise we risk accreting hobby-like applications. But I dont want to impose my own perspective too strongly. Also the Ullmann article is 28 years old.--Smokefoot (talk) 20:21, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
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I decided to do some armchair sleuthing in response to the question from Double_sharp here. In July, this article was viewed about 400 times per day. There were a similar number of views per day in August, including August 12 and August 14, but on August 13, the article had over 130,000 views, which is close to what we'd expect in an entire year. From September 1 to today, article views returned to about 400 per day.
After some googling and baidu-ing, it seems like the indium-related event that caused this jump took place in China due to the sketchy Fanya (Pan-Asia) Metals Exchange. According to the initial paragraphs at and , on August 11 a large group of investors who'd been "bamboozled" by a Ponzi-like investment tied to minor metals markets complained to local police in several large Chinese cities across multiple provinces. Based on what I can pick up from a google translation of this August 13 opinion piece, claims about perpetually increasing indium prices were the main incentive to attract these investors.
The police and Chinese judicial system didn't act to address the investors' complaints, so, on August 22, several of them flew from around the country to grab the founder/head of the metals exchange and rough him up a bit before delivering him to the police. The police let him go. There isn't much online about the investors' August 11 complaints, but there sure is a lot out there about their August 22 actions. That's human nature and the nature of the news I suppose.
I think it looks unusual that the opinion piece I linked to before from Futures Daily (期货日报) at http://www.qhrb.com.cn/2015/0813/183950.shtml has the word "Indium" ("铟") in quotes the first time it appears. My bet is that the original version of this opinion piece early on August 13 linked here to this Wikipedia article at that point, and then later on August 13, some editors at Futures Daily made the wise decision to remove the link. Flying Jazz (talk) 09:12, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
The equation:
Is clearly incorrect since there is one indium on the left and two indium on the right. I can't find references to an InO2 "Indate" ion to verify whether this species can exist. Nick Hill (talk) 20:09, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
according to the DOE report on Critical Materials China is the worlds largest producer of Indium. Not Canada. I have no idea where the info for canada came from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.25.6 (talk) 14:04, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Damiankrol (talk) 15:10, 10 January 2016 (UTC) production data is much inaccurate, please look at these figures: http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/indium/mcs-2015-indiu.pdf
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"Fewer than 10 indium minerals such as roquesite (CuInS2) are known, and none occur at sufficient concentrations for economic extraction.[45] Instead, indium is usually a trace constituent of more common ore minerals, such as sphalerite and chalcopyrite."
Indium in zink and copper ores may occur in solid solution in the zink and copper minerals or as minor inclusions of indium bearing minerals, or as a combination. It probably applies to many other rare elements too that they carried by small amounts of finely dispersed mineral having the element as an essential constituent or at least strongly elevated concentration. In some cases the rare elements may occur in solid solution at high temperature but exsolve into separate phases at lower temperature. While indium is not extracted as a roquesite concentrate it may well be an important indium carrier in the sphalerite and chalcopyrite concentrates. If so indium is a trace constituent of the ore, but not of the common ore minerals (unless there is also solid solution). The indium content of zink ores varies strongly. While the concentration may be somewhat elevated in most ores the extraction of indium is probably only worthwhile from a minor fraction rich in indium.150.227.15.253 (talk) 09:46, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
At the end of the chemical section, should it be indium III oxide (or indium I oxide?) that is mildly amphoteric, rather than indium itself? WestNab (talk) 12:33, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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