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Curently commented out: "The last full-blood Aboriginal, Nellie "Queen Nellie" Hamilton, died in Queanbeyan Hospital on January 1, 1897." - "still no source for this".
Sources include:
Gunghalin is named after her with her date of death being given as 1897.
I can't seem to find the authority for 1 January nor that she died in the hospital. I sugggest modifying to 1897.--AYArktos 00:56, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
revert deletions of 28 February by IP 03.217.59.148 - showing her deletions as strike throughs insteadA Y Arktos 22:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Deletions stand. Please honour my copyright and my wishes. Thank you. AJN
reference discussion at Talk:Canberra#Origin_of_the_name_Canberra
I disagree that the word derivation to do with women's breasts referring to the plain between Black Mountain and Mt Ainslie is a plausible explanation - as stated in an earlier discussion (can't recall where and can't locate) the anatomy and the topography don't correlate well. I think it is an urban legend which used to have a certain currency. I think it is a put down of the Ngunnawal people and thus we should be very careful about perpetuating this particular myth. I am wary of potical correctness but would like a reason for varying from a policy of political correctness in this case.--User:AYArktos | Talk 23:59, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
The "hollow between a woman's breasts" meaning for Kembera/Kemberry/Canberry/Nganbra is no more an urban myth than the "meeting place" meaning. Unless you start calling the "meeting place" meaning an urban myth too, I suggest you leave urban myths out and present both as credible alternative explanations that BOTH have supporting evidences.
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Codman 01:42, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Here's a strange explanation I just came across - Canberra is the corrupted form of the word 'Corroborree' meaning a meeting place for a ceremonial dance - -- Cfitzart 00:56, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
revert deletions of 28 February by IP 03.217.59.148 - showing her deletions as strike throughs insteadA Y Arktos 22:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
The Murrumbidgee River actually flows along the edge of Canberra city rather than through it. The Molonglo certainly flows through Canberra city.
I still have my doubts about "Kamberry" or however you want to spell it being the name for the Molonglo river - nevertheless I have left it in and have just pointed out that this is contradicted by the name "Yeal-am-bid-gie" recorded by Charles Throsby for the Molonglo River in the Canberra plains in 1820. Codman 09:35, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Following discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Canberra, a new article on History of the Australian Capital Territory has been commenced as a fork from this article. We need to disentangle the two articles - any help appreciated. At the moment History of the ACT is a copy and paste. Once disentangled, the forks can then develop and flourish.--A Y Arktos (Talk) 00:06, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
For attempting to disentangle the two see the ACT Hansard discussion at http://www.hansard.act.gov.au/hansard/2005/week06/2028.htm .
Jon Stanhope in response to a question from Mrs Burke advised:
Ngambri is the name of one of a number of family groups that make up the Ngunnawal nation. Evidence of the existence of this clan is found in the extensive historical records held by various institutions such as the NSW State Archives. A detailed summary of the historical evidence relating to the clan can be found in Ann Jackson-Nakano, The Kamberri: a history from the records of Aboriginal families in the Canberra-Queanbeyan district and surrounds 1820-1927 and historical overview 1928 -2001 Aboriginal History Monograph 8, ANU Press, 2001.
Stanhope went on to say "The Government recognises members of the Ngunnawal nation as descendants of the original inhabitants of this region. There is no specific recognition of the Ngambri group outside of this broader acknowledgement."
I am updating the section on the name based on Ann Jackson-Nakano's latest work on Ngambri ancestral names which in turn cites many sources for her view.--A Y Arktos (Talk) 23:07, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
revert deletions of 28 February by IP 03.217.59.148 - showing her deletions as strike throughs insteadA Y Arktos 22:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I am reserving my right to copyright and deleting my contributions. Please honour my wishes. Thank you.
I do not wish to be associated with the articles appearing on this page. Please honour my wishes and the wikipedia policy not to breach copyright - I have withdrawn my contributions. I do not wish to make this a legal issue but will pursue further if you continue to use earlier contributions against my wishes. Thank you. AJN.
Some possibly useful photos found on the NLA website. --Martyman-(talk) 12:17, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I think the article could do with the Aboriginal and European settelment sections being pruned down to a summary and Canberra specific info and a {{main|History of the Australian Capital Territory}} inserted to link the two articles together more effectively. --Martyman-(talk) 10:08, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
Parts of Canberra were the backdrop for Cold War espionage activity. One South Canberra park, Telopea Park, was a known drop-off point for KGB spies based at the nearby USSR Embassy. This embassy was constantly monitored by ASIO agents based in a hotel located across the street. In 1991, with the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union, the building became the Russian Embassy.
This is interesting, does anyone have a reference for this? Also I have heard about ASIO or someone getting cought trying to bug the Chinese embassy during it's construction, anyone knwo anything concrete? --Martyman-(talk) 08:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
This March 2004 Age article called " In defence of the top secret life of ASIO" mentions it, stating: "... Downer refused to confirm or deny any Australian involvement or knowledge of the bugging, claiming that any other response "would destroy our intelligence services". The Government's response was the same in 1999 when an alleged joint US-Australia bugging operation was discovered in the Chinese embassy in Canberra.".
This UNSW seminar paper states: "In 1995, for example, Australian intelligence officials leaked a story to the Australian Broadcasting Company that was, at first blush, damaging to themselves: Australian intelligence had bugged the Chinese Embassy in Canberra. However, the Australians had no access to the actual transmissions; they had merely planted the bugs at the behest of the NSA, which was getting the raw feed."
The ABC in an AM Feb 2004 interview mentioned its role, with the interviewer stating :"And in 1995, the ABC revealed Australian intelligence agencies played a similar role, placing bugging devices in the newly constructed Chinese Embassy in Canberra at the behest of the American top secret National Security Agency, or NSA. A leaked memo from the NSA to Britain, about bugging UN ambassadors, was the spark for Clare Short's stunning allegations."
The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation page has no mention.--A Y Arktos 22:55, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I uploaded this image to commons. It's a picture of the "First consignment of liquor following the lifting of Prohibition in the Federal Capital Territory". Feel free to incorporate it into this article. --pfctdayelise 13:48, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Comment moved from page at the end of the 'European settlement' section -- Astrokey44|talk 14:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC) :
revert deletions of 28 February by IP 03.217.59.148 - showing her deletions as strike throughs insteadA Y Arktos 22:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
See above comments. AJN. Do not revert these deletions.
revert deletions of 28 February by IP 03.217.59.148 - showing her deletions as strike throughs insteadA Y Arktos 22:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
See notes above. Please do not revert my deletions. AJN.
The word "half-caste" is extremely racist and needs to be edited!!
I've moved the "Sites of significance" section to the end of the article. I'm not sure it belongs there, or even in the article at all, but it certainly should not be a parent section of "European settlement", which is where @Paulmaximus: put it in this edit. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:29, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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