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Hi Jcw69, I see that you're working on the Gauteng page, and it's nice. There are a few things I don't understand, though:
Nyh 13:16, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I would also delete the "important sports event" section altogether. For example, what does the super 12 event have to do with Gauteng specifically? Nyh 13:32, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Hi Nyh,
I found the provinces of SA a mess most of them just stubs, so I wanted more detail in them. I tried to find a compatible layout for them by looking at the states in USA.
I know they look ugly, sorry but I want to full them with info and I am looking for the info when time permits.
As for the sports side I think your idea is much better because I just copied that from the states.
I was looking at the 1996 stats last night, sorry I corrected them.
I will be getting to the other provinces as soon as I can. I have started on KwaZulu-Natal so could you look there and update. Thanks
Feed back is great. Are u also living in SA
Jcw69
Actually, no, I live in Israel. But my girlfriend was born in Johannesburg, and I'm trying to learn her heritage :) Nyh 07:56, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Hi Nyh, I drew the map up based on the map found at the Johannesburg's website. I can change it if need be.--Jcw69 08:53, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
It says in the article .. It was initially named Pretoria-Witwatersrand-Vereeniging (or PWV) and was renamed Gauteng in December 1994. What I found is that on 8 December 1994 a committee of the legislature of Pretoria-Witwatersrand-Vereeniging province recommended that the name of the province be changed to Gauteng but I found two dates for the actual renaming that is 8 December 1995 or in Feb 1995. Can anyone give me the actual date when the name was gazetted? --Jcw69 10:24, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
If you look at the map at you can see that the region marked as West Rand (number 13) on the map in the article is unmarked. Also the list of municipalities on the Department of Health site lists 12 local and metro municipalities, which are presumably depicted on the map in this article, not 13. West Rand is listed as a district municipality, not as a local municipality and therefore should not appear to be on the map. I could be wrong, but someone needs to verify the status of the section marked as 13 on the map. Park3r 20:24, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Will the maps have to change following the abolition of cross-border municipalities, and the transfer of various areas like Merafong City Local Municipality (that includes Khutsong)?168.209.98.35 18:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Could anybody say what number corresponds with what municipality. It is not clear to me this way --Merijn2 15:25, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
the stress is on the second syllable, correct? (sometimes people get mixed up where to put the stress mark) kwami (talk) 06:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
So stress is on the te, as we currently have it? (That would make it different from Xhosa or Swahili. In English it would only have two syllables, so that would be the final syllable, and the English pronunciation is what we've listed.) kwami (talk) 08:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. My point about Xhosa and Swahili is that you wouldn't get a syllable ng, and therefore not stress the te with that spelling. We can certainly add the Sotho; we just need the tone. But then what is the English pronunciation? Just a spelling pronunciation of /ˈɡaʊtɛŋ/? kwami (talk) 20:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Centainly you don't mean that English-speaking South Africans don't ever mention Gauteng, or that they just write it on a slip of paper? kwami (talk) 22:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Can we please add to the article an audio file of the correct pronunciation(s)? Thanks. -- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 22:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Would be a good idea to put former names behind the new name Like Mogale City (Krugersdorp). I live in the Netherlands know about krugersdorp but not Mogale. What do other people think about it? Sure you guys don't all agree with the namechanges? Flagman (talk) 13:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
I see that it shows English speakers pronounce the province with a "g" (like the spelling? I have personally NEVER heard anyone (English/Afrikaans/Black) say "Gaw-teng", it has always been "XGaw-teng", where the X is a "flemming" sound, if that makes sense? Can we remove the first pronounciation. Btw the "Gau" isn't a fully african word. It originally came from "Goud", which has passed on into some African languages. "Goud" in Afrikaans is pronounced with the "X" sound at the beggining as well. Bezuidenhout (talk) 17:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
I know the S. African govt says it is but govts often mislead. And the 10% figure is unbelivevable. Per Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) S. Af GDP = 357, so if Gauteng one third as claimed, Gauteng = circa 120. Africa = 1,730. North Africa = circa 600.
So using grade school math Gauteng a bit over 10% of sub Saharan Africa and around 7% of African GDP.
I did change article. 96.49.36.43 (talk) 07:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
The proportion of black Africans nationally versus minorities has not increased since the 2001 census, yet according to the 2011 census black Africans are now the majority in Northern Cape and the 70-75% majority of non-blacks in Western Cape has been reduced to 68%. In addition I believe that whites made up 20% of the population of Gauteng in 2001. How is it that blacks don't increase as a percent of population nationwide yet it seems that the SA government is claiming they have increased in several provinces where it matters to the ANC? Is there tampering going on here? Have whites and coloreds and indians gained in other provinces and I just haven't noticed? 64.189.66.167 (talk) 01:54, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
I think that this article is ready to be rated again in terms of its quality scale. I've done tons of work on it and feel that the quality of the article has improved substantially in the last month or so. Thoughts? Aleksandar Bulovic' (talk) 15:42, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey, I've been doing lots of research on crime in Gauteng and I think that it would be appropriate to include it in the article. Should I give it its own section or make it part of one of the already present sections? (Perhaps Demographics or Law And Government), let me know! Aleksandar Bulovic' (talk) 20:55, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
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The fact that Gauteng was actually derived from the Afrikaans word goud (being inherited from Dutch) seems to evoke an uneasiness with some South Africans, if one looks at the way in which it was edited from the article. They may have their feelings that Afrikaans had nothing to contribute to the black South African languages, but the fact is that there are miriads of Afrikaans words, changed and spelt differently but nevertheless, in Sotho, etc. When the Gauteng province was named Gauteng, the then (black) premier of the province acknowledged the fact that the initial source was the Afrikaans word goud. Politics influence history but should not distort it. But I am fairly sure that, if someone should correct the fact, it would be removed again. I will therefore try to find the premier's exact words at the time in a newspaper archive or something. Adding such a source should make it a little more difficult to "try to change history", no? Mieliestronk (talk) 01:53, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
Talk about it 197.184.180.92 (talk) 18:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Gauteng income is stated as annual but the number should be monthly. 102.33.61.59 (talk) 05:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Land use in settlement — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.121.7.64 (talk) 14:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
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