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This was top of the Main Page DYK list on Easter Sunday (afternoon). I think FV would have been pleased with the timing!
Pages that mention his steam 'car'...(difficult to isolate from the Wikipedia mirrors).
Note that Googling "verbiest car -wikipedia" is more productive than including 'steam':
The timeline entry is of limited worth, when compared to other refs found subsequently.
The worth of the book reference is unknown.
Added 5th Feb 2008 was an amendment to show that the model was 61cm long. The next edit added the following 'reference', although it was not inserted in-line:
I have remove these from the text as they were added by an anon editor (who has not edited another article) and I have been unable to corroborate them on-line. They have been retained here for future use, and re-instatement if verification is possible.
Verbiest, depicted in the guise of a Chinese priest-astronomer. (Painting by Utagawa Kuniyoshi, 1675 (British Museum))
The above appears in the caption of File:Chinese astronomer 1675.jpg but the artist's article states he lived from 1797 to April 14, 1861. Is the date or the artist wrongly attributed? -84user (talk) 13:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
In fact the given cite "Fairfield University: "Fr. Ferdinand Verbiest, S.J." (confirming that Verbiest is the character portrayed in the painting)" does not confirm anything to me as there are no images, no mention of 1675, no mention of Utagawa. Has the wrong citation been used here? Maybe I missed it, if so, please could a precise quote from that cite be added to the ref? -84user (talk) 13:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
That was quick, I was probably the edit conflict source. I replaced the fairfield cite with your scholarsresource one, and removed the 1675. I now see the 1675 was trying to describe the time period.
I looked at the http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/jmac/sj/scientists/verbiest.htm using Internet Archive and older versions also fail to show images. However when you change the "GIF" to "gif" in that page, these images are seen, only not this one. It seems (from this internet archive list ) fairfield must have changed their images between 2006-08-30 and now (maybe to the Utagawa image back in March?), but there are no archives of the "gif" images, only the "GIF" images.
Now, the Wu Yong article states it is of Wu Yong, but no source. -84user (talk) 13:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I have now added the same cite to the Wu Yong caption but added a fact tag to the Wu Yong claim. The Japanese wikipedia Wu Yong article (I cannot read it but I follow the internal wikilinks) seems to show the painting is by Utagawa and "of" Verbiest in the style of how "Wu Yong" is depicted. Unless the Japanese editors simply translated the english one. -84user (talk) 14:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC) (fixed my Utagawa Kuniyoshi typos -84user (talk) 15:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC))
I am not quite sure if the this painting is the right one of Ferdinand Verbiest. Although I don't read Japanese, I can surly read the Chinese on the painting which says that it is a portait of Wu Yong and also tells who he is. I am quite sure there is no mentioning of Ferdinand Verbiest, even within the Japanese characters. If it is Ferdinand Verbiest, there must be a story behind it...
Since Wu Yong is a legendary figure in Chinese folk history, a sort of a wise man, a genius who knows everything from astronomy to geography, I am not surprised at all that he is surrounded by astronomical instruments, and it's actually quite adequate... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.7.204.161 (talk) 04:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
This picture (File:Chinese astronomer 1675.jpg) has now been renamed at Commons, its new name being:
The description has also been updated, and now reads:
Consequently it has been removed from this article.
I felt that a follow-up note might be in order in case anyone comes looking here for guidance...
One look at the drawing of Verbiest's car reveals it's front wheel driven. So, is the mention of rear wheel drive in the article based on other accepted facts, or just an error, or is the drawing wrong? Wurdnurd (talk) 14:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
on note number 18 the pdf link is no more active. I wrote to the producer Brumm, they quickly answered me that now the pic is not any more there in pdf but here: http://www.brumm.it/00-media/00-database/640/OLDFIRE/X06.jpg
Tonii it.wikipedia --79.17.182.227 (talk) 16:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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Would be nice to have more images of the project and some datasheet (maybe a new page for the invention itself? Just wondering=) Lawtheagoraphobic (talk) 14:29, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
From the drawing it would appear that the car was propelled by a primitive turbine. The jet impacted upon the turbine and pushed it around whereas in an aeolipile the jet is just used for its reaction, akin to a rocket. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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