Talk:1937 dispute between Czechoslovakia and Portugal

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A fact from 1937 dispute between Czechoslovakia and Portugal appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 March 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that a dispute over 600 machine guns led Czechoslovakia and Portugal to break off diplomatic relations for nearly 37 years? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1937 dispute between Czechoslovakia and Portugal.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 03:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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A Bren machine gun, a similar model to the disputed weapons

• ... that a 1937 dispute between Czechoslovakia and Portugal over the sale of 600 machine guns (example pictured) led to a 36-year break in diplomatic relations between the two countries? Source: https://portaldiplomatico.mne.gov.pt/en/bilateral-relations/general-countries/czech-republic

• ALT1 ... that a dispute between Czechoslovakia and Portugal over the sale of machine guns (example pictured) led to a more than 36-year break in diplomatic relations?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Horne Book
  • Comment: The statement "36 year break" is simple subtraction of the two dates in the source: 27th of June 1974 and 17th of August 1937.

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 19:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1937 dispute between Czechoslovakia and Portugal; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Reviewing now. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
• Interesting article. New enough (submitted day of creation); long enough (5204 characters). Well-sourced and neutral in tone. (Clipped the Newspapers.com article, so that it's accessible to readers without a subscription.) Earwig detects no apparent copyvio; only match is a direct quote that is properly cited. QPQ is done. This leaves the hook and image. The claims made in the hook check out per the sources cited in the article, which is the important thing; the source cited within this nomination supports most of it, but you have to also see the Time magazine article to verify the number "600". IMO, there are two issues with this hook: 1) It is too "pat" and overexplains – i.e., it contains so much detail, there is little reason for the reader to click. I would suggest leaving something out – e.g., leaving out "1937" might cause readers to wonder what exact period of history you are referring to and compel them to read the article. 2) To me, the gap between June 1974 and August 1937 sounds closer to 37 years rather than 36. Either way, it would be better to have more precise wording – i.e., "more than 36 years" or "nearly 37 years". I also went ahead and added the exact dates (which seemed to be missing) into the article, as it seems important. As for the image, it appears to be licensed properly, but that caption is way too long. Can you come up with something shorter? Might be worth checking out the archives to see what successful picture-hook image captions look like. (Again, resist the temptation to overexplain. Let the article do the heavy lifting.) Cielquiparle (talk) 11:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

• Cielquiparle - thank you for this thorough review. I've added an ALT and updated the caption. Please let me know if I missed anything. Thanks again! Chetsford (talk) 19:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

@Chetsford: Thanks for fixing the caption; I have deleted the part you carefully "struck" above so that it looks tidy for the promoter. (I also added the word "example" before "pictured" but this is the kind of thing that usually gets fixed by other editors during further rounds of review...if the image were to get chosen, that is.) Thanks also for providing an ALT hook. Here are a few more variations for consideration by the promoter:

• ALT2: ... that a dispute over 600 machine guns (example pictured) led Czechoslovakia and Portugal to break off diplomatic relations for nearly 37 years?
• ALT3: ... that a dispute between Czechoslovakia and Portugal over 600 machine guns (example pictured) led the two countries to break off diplomatic relations for nearly 37 years?
• ALT4: ... that Czechoslovakia and Portugal broke off diplomatic relations for nearly 37 years over the sale of 600 machine guns (example pictured)?

In any case, approving now with the caveat that variations ALT2-ALT4 were suggested by me and should be scrutinized accordingly. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:43, 6 March 2024 (UTC)