File talk:South China Sea claims map.jpg

Full of factual errors

This map should not be used, as it displays glaring mistakes what different countries claim. Here are the most apparent:

a) China and Vietnam have delimited their border in the Gulf of Tonkin. The straight line going through the gulf is totally incorrect.

b) Vietnam has not published any detailed map or delimitation what it claims in the South China Sea, only saying it has sovereignty over Paracels and Spratlys Almost entire Vietnamese border claim in the map is fictional.

c) The Philippines border in the western side is drawn so that Scarborough Shoal is inside the Philippine territory. In reality, the line goes slightly on the eastern side of the shoal.

d) The dashes of the Chinese dashed line are removed and the line drawn as a complete line. This is fictional again as China never has published an intention to use the dashed line as a real border. 2016-05-04T21:58:09‎ Drieakko talk contribs

a) You are correct. The north-south line is probably the 1887 treaty and affected islands only. It is superseded by explicit 1957 agreement and handover of Bạch Long Vĩ Island.

b) You are correct. The islands claim is only by name of whole group. (same method as China claims) Vietnam’s EEZ claims were expressed in 2009 submissions to UN CLCS and consist of 200 mile projection from mainland coastal baselines, and an extended continental shelf request extending only to the midline between Vietnam and China midlines. I have uploaded map at right

File:Vietnam Submission to CLCS North Area 2009.png

Vietnam 200 nautical mile EEZ and requested continental shelf wedge

from the #37 submission.

c) Philippines has regularized its EEZ claim to 200 miles from mainlands. Acceptance of the 2016 Philippines vs. China ruling affirms this. The western part of the purple outline follows the original Kalayaan Islands (article hidden by redirect) claim polygon.

d) Correct, the Chinese always show it as dashed. Domestically Chinese talk about national territory. Some statements have described the dashed line as indicating the four island groups that are claimed, Xisha, Dongsha, Zhongsha Islands, Nansha.

Overall this map is misleading, and should only be used for debunking the continuing use of the map in news media. --JWB (talk) 17:28, 27 June 2020 (UTC)